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Whatwasthat · Whatwasthat

what was that question asking again......patrol supv or what???

smartcookie · smartcookie

If you haven't sent in your protest yet- you need to include a self addressed stamped envelope with your pink slip. -- Edited by smartcookie on Wednesday 2nd of November 2011 05:46:53 PM

Gamblor · Gamblor

Overall, this exam was a surprise to everyone, but that in and of itself should actually not be new to anyone here. We all know how this job is and how they change things at a moment's notice. This test is truly a first of a kind for the Department. We saw an incredible amount of what appeared to be very su...

HabidasheryAuto · HabidasheryAuto

They had a civilian cleaner named Vorbeck on the roll call? I found it funny cause Inspector Vorbeck was so hated, I wonder if it a small but intentional F You to him.

NextLtTest · NextLtTest

If they are going to be getting questions from a source shouldn't we be provided with that source? Neither NOE has any reference to either of those two material's.

SteveC · SteveC

A way was found to extend the current list

BertMan · BertMan

Yea,,,,ran out of time lol. Im almost positive I failed but I had no time to write down my answers on the take home sheet. Im remember reading somewhere a while back that you can get a copy of your offical answer sheet after the results are posted in 5 weeks. True? If so then where?

Footpost 4 Life · Footpost 4 Life

-- Edited by Footpost 4 Life on Wednesday 2nd of November 2011 07:34:46 AM

twntynout · twntynout

Anyone have/know of the way the senority points work? Not sure if thats in proper english but i have a feeling they are going to be very important for this list....

SgtOfficer · SgtOfficer

I havent compared my key yet.. But pass or fail this test wasnt fair.. We need to stick together so Dcas never pull a stunt like this again... Moral on this job is very low so for them to turn around and do this **** to people who still cared little bit isnt right... I gave up a big portion of my life this yr to st...

outat20 · outat20

Supposedly the Dept. released a management guide a while back that would have guided you on how to properly handle the 30 or so odd questions that we were presented with on the test....I'd love to actual see it and find out why it wasn't communicated to us regardings its importance for testing purposes...

smartcookie · smartcookie

The Key sent out a letter to those of whom are on their email list. Here it is:Today is Tuesday, November 1, 2011. Its time now for everyone who took the Lieutenants test on Saturday to cut off the bottom of the pink answer sheet and mail it in so you can attend the protest session. If you havent already don...

E D · E D

The key has sent out a very informative e-mail about the test & how and what to protest. I advise all key students to read it or have someone forward it to you if you weren't a student or didn't get it. -- Edited by E D on Wednesday 2nd of November 2011 12:07:57 AM

Johnnyo591 · Johnnyo591

Regardless if you believe it was fair or not everyone who took this exam should mail in the protest form. There were multiple questions that were incredibly tight. Personally i want to see what was considered correct in these judgment calls. I bet we could find PG or AG that counter. Also did anyone els...

NextLtTest · NextLtTest

The link below shows that seven questions, were thrown out and eight were double or triple answers. It also shows that people took the test two weekends after the original test was given, this is a competitive test we should stop giving out answers. http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/downloads/...

FNM · FNM

His name is Jeffrey Goldberg he is a civil service lawyer, and he has dealt with these types of issues before. I am including his email at the bottom of this message. He would like to take up our case and says we have a very good case at getting the entire exam dismissed. I know that a lot of people are hopi...

jill72 · jill72

So they can give another one next year and rake in $1,000+ per student! It's a conspiracy! Gimme yo $$ suckas

bh4d · bh4d

What was the amount of throw outs /double ansewers for the last LT test

SloppyBeeSwarm · SloppyBeeSwarm

Just got back and I have to say that I found the test to be fair. I am so temoted to say it was easy but let me hold back a smidge. I definitely passed and I hope that most of not all of you did as well.

SHTIRLITZ · SHTIRLITZ

THEY TOLD YOU THAT GRAMMAR, SPELLING ETC WILL BE TESTED IF YOU DID NOT PICK UP A GRAMMAR.. SPELLING BOOK SHAME ON YOU THEY TOLD YOU MATH WILL BE ON THE EXAM IF YOU DIDNT PICK UP A MATH BOOK SHAME ON YOU THEY TOLD PG WILL BE TESTED AND YES THOSE QUSTIONS WERE F**** UP BUT I AM SURE ONCE YOU SIT DOWN FOR A REVIEW S...

Cathetel · Cathetel

can I use,Supervision of Police Personnel (7th Edition). http://www.amazon.com/Supervision-Police-Personnel-Nathan-Iannone/dp/0131131613?tag=vglnk-c1345-20

FNM · FNM

What are the chances of getting this exam thrown out? Has anything like this ever happened before. When I called the SBA today they said that the Police Academys website had some of those leadership questions on some of there lessons. I didnt know that. In any event this exam was a major deviation fr...

bha78 · bha78

Did anyone have a scantron that only asked for your social and not your name?

LateRiser · LateRiser

Bottom line is that no one expected this BS They should make one class so we can discuss how can we throw this worthless test in the garbage. I am sure they have a few lawyers and dealt with this before. There is no point sitting here and talk about it we should do something about it. i've already investe...

RISING IDIOT · RISING IDIOT

A lot of discussion has been had about the last 30 or so questions on this test. You know, the questions that supposedly had a "right" answer if you got some obscure $99 book off Amazon. A book that is basically filled with opinions of two authors about how to "supervise police personne...

E D · E D

Then this should be a repeat of Captains exam and there will be 10-20 throwouts or double answers. Just gotta wait for preliminary answer key, and get those protest requests in! Protest, protest, protest!!! Not much more that we can do. I personally am done worrying about it and I studied for 6 months a...

J Man · J Man

Whatever your feelings are regarding this test as "fair" or "unfair," it is irrelevant. DCAS could have written a fair test on American History, but it has little to do with what we actually prepared for, which is a Lieutenant's Exam. We were never advised of the materials to pe...

amanda · amanda

How can I get my answer key? Ran out of time to write my answers?

collarsfordollars · collarsfordollars

Are we doing one or what?

smartcookie · smartcookie

Here is the actual text from the NOE, in regards to what the test will be based upon. After reading this, I believe that there is no way this exam will get thrown out. Those who have specific questions in mind to protest, make sure you get your protest forms in asap! THE TEST : You will be given a multiple-...

Topic		Started By	Replies	Views	Last Post
	HARM TEA Question (Preview) what was that question asking again......patrol supv or what???	Whatwasthat	7	1235	Nov 2, 2011 by oneadditional
	Don't Forget... Re: Protest Form (Preview) If you haven't sent in your protest yet- you need to include a self addressed stamped envelope with your pink slip. -- Edited by smartcookie on Wednesday 2nd of November 2011 05:46:53 PM	smartcookie	0	1043	Nov 2, 2011 by smartcookie
	My attempt at an unbiased review ( 1 2 ) (Preview) Overall, this exam was a surprise to everyone, but that in and of itself should actually not be new to anyone here. We all know how this job is and how they change things at a moment's notice. This test is truly a first of a kind for the Department. We saw an incredible amount of what appeared to be very su...	Gamblor	71	5635	Nov 2, 2011 by sharpie973
	Kinda off topic (Preview) They had a civilian cleaner named Vorbeck on the roll call? I found it funny cause Inspector Vorbeck was so hated, I wonder if it a small but intentional F You to him.	HabidasheryAuto	6	1330	Nov 2, 2011 by oneadditional
	Management guide/Supervision of Police Personnel Management Guide (Preview) If they are going to be getting questions from a source shouldn't we be provided with that source? Neither NOE has any reference to either of those two material's.	NextLtTest	1	1020	Nov 2, 2011 by RISING IDIOT
	Congrats to the people on the current LT list (Preview) A way was found to extend the current list	SteveC	5	1910	Nov 2, 2011 by popeye
	No time to fill in take home answer sheet (Preview) Yea,,,,ran out of time lol. Im almost positive I failed but I had no time to write down my answers on the take home sheet. Im remember reading somewhere a while back that you can get a copy of your offical answer sheet after the results are posted in 5 weeks. True? If so then where?	BertMan	14	1787	Nov 2, 2011 by BertMan
	Enough is Enough (Preview) -- Edited by Footpost 4 Life on Wednesday 2nd of November 2011 07:34:46 AM	Footpost 4 Life	0	942	Nov 2, 2011 by Footpost 4 Life
	Senority points.... (Preview) Anyone have/know of the way the senority points work? Not sure if thats in proper english but i have a feeling they are going to be very important for this list....	twntynout	10	1512	Nov 2, 2011 by smartcookie
	Pass or Fail this test was not right (Preview) I havent compared my key yet.. But pass or fail this test wasnt fair.. We need to stick together so Dcas never pull a stunt like this again... Moral on this job is very low so for them to turn around and do this **** to people who still cared little bit isnt right... I gave up a big portion of my life this yr to st...	SgtOfficer	2	988	Nov 2, 2011 by SgtOfficer
	Management Guide? (Preview) Supposedly the Dept. released a management guide a while back that would have guided you on how to properly handle the 30 or so odd questions that we were presented with on the test....I'd love to actual see it and find out why it wasn't communicated to us regardings its importance for testing purposes...	outat20	14	1997	Nov 2, 2011 by outat20
	The Key Re: Protests (Preview) The Key sent out a letter to those of whom are on their email list. Here it is:Today is Tuesday, November 1, 2011. Its time now for everyone who took the Lieutenants test on Saturday to cut off the bottom of the pink answer sheet and mail it in so you can attend the protest session. If you havent already don...	smartcookie	9	4029	Nov 2, 2011 by sharpie973
	Key's E-mail (Preview) The key has sent out a very informative e-mail about the test & how and what to protest. I advise all key students to read it or have someone forward it to you if you weren't a student or didn't get it. -- Edited by E D on Wednesday 2nd of November 2011 12:07:57 AM	E D	5	1358	Nov 2, 2011 by smartcookie
	Everyone should mail in their protest forms ASAP (Preview) Regardless if you believe it was fair or not everyone who took this exam should mail in the protest form. There were multiple questions that were incredibly tight. Personally i want to see what was considered correct in these judgment calls. I bet we could find PG or AG that counter. Also did anyone els...	Johnnyo591	7	1217	Nov 2, 2011 by PatrolGuideismyBible
	We should stop talking specific questions. Look at this from dcas. (Preview) The link below shows that seven questions, were thrown out and eight were double or triple answers. It also shows that people took the test two weekends after the original test was given, this is a competitive test we should stop giving out answers. http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/downloads/...	NextLtTest	4	1330	Nov 1, 2011 by Sgtfahlife
	Class Action Lawsuit Will Begin (Preview) His name is Jeffrey Goldberg he is a civil service lawyer, and he has dealt with these types of issues before. I am including his email at the bottom of this message. He would like to take up our case and says we have a very good case at getting the entire exam dismissed. I know that a lot of people are hopi...	FNM	25	1984	Nov 1, 2011 by Sgtfahlife
	The schools are for this exam being thrown out (Preview) So they can give another one next year and rake in $1,000+ per student! It's a conspiracy! Gimme yo $$ suckas	jill72	9	2039	Nov 1, 2011 by nickie323
	Throw outs/ Double answers (Preview) What was the amount of throw outs /double ansewers for the last LT test	bh4d	2	1166	Nov 1, 2011 by JustWonderin
	TEST WAS FAIR AND ON POINT (Preview) Just got back and I have to say that I found the test to be fair. I am so temoted to say it was easy but let me hold back a smidge. I definitely passed and I hope that most of not all of you did as well.	SloppyBeeSwarm	34	3635	Nov 1, 2011 by Hector Salamanca
	LETS FACE IT (Preview) THEY TOLD YOU THAT GRAMMAR, SPELLING ETC WILL BE TESTED IF YOU DID NOT PICK UP A GRAMMAR.. SPELLING BOOK SHAME ON YOU THEY TOLD YOU MATH WILL BE ON THE EXAM IF YOU DIDNT PICK UP A MATH BOOK SHAME ON YOU THEY TOLD PG WILL BE TESTED AND YES THOSE QUSTIONS WERE F**** UP BUT I AM SURE ONCE YOU SIT DOWN FOR A REVIEW S...	SHTIRLITZ	8	1397	Nov 1, 2011 by PatrolGuideismyBible
	If I ever get GO'd or questioned in regards to supervision... (Preview) can I use,Supervision of Police Personnel (7th Edition). http://www.amazon.com/Supervision-Police-Personnel-Nathan-Iannone/dp/0131131613?tag=vglnk-c1345-20	Cathetel	0	993	Nov 1, 2011 by Cathetel
	Thrown out (Preview) What are the chances of getting this exam thrown out? Has anything like this ever happened before. When I called the SBA today they said that the Police Academys website had some of those leadership questions on some of there lessons. I didnt know that. In any event this exam was a major deviation fr...	FNM	32	2719	Nov 1, 2011 by NextLtTest
	Scrantrons (Preview) Did anyone have a scantron that only asked for your social and not your name?	bha78	3	1103	Nov 1, 2011 by bha78
	TO ALL SCHOOLS OUT THERE (Preview) Bottom line is that no one expected this BS They should make one class so we can discuss how can we throw this worthless test in the garbage. I am sure they have a few lawyers and dealt with this before. There is no point sitting here and talk about it we should do something about it. i've already investe...	LateRiser	0	1153	Nov 1, 2011 by LateRiser
	Not just the management questions... (Preview) A lot of discussion has been had about the last 30 or so questions on this test. You know, the questions that supposedly had a "right" answer if you got some obscure $99 book off Amazon. A book that is basically filled with opinions of two authors about how to "supervise police personne...	RISING IDIOT	12	1563	Nov 1, 2011 by E D
	If we are all as smart as we think we are.... (Preview) Then this should be a repeat of Captains exam and there will be 10-20 throwouts or double answers. Just gotta wait for preliminary answer key, and get those protest requests in! Protest, protest, protest!!! Not much more that we can do. I personally am done worrying about it and I studied for 6 months a...	E D	3	1153	Nov 1, 2011 by FNM
	-----------PROTEST EVERY QUESTION-------------- (Preview) Whatever your feelings are regarding this test as "fair" or "unfair," it is irrelevant. DCAS could have written a fair test on American History, but it has little to do with what we actually prepared for, which is a Lieutenant's Exam. We were never advised of the materials to pe...	J Man	10	1413	Nov 1, 2011 by Footpost 4 Life
	answer key (Preview) How can I get my answer key? Ran out of time to write my answers?	amanda	4	1503	Oct 31, 2011 by s2h
	Answer key ( 1 2 3 ) (Preview) Are we doing one or what?	collarsfordollars	101	11615	Oct 31, 2011 by Wood Chipper
	Notice of Exam Guidelines for Lt's Exam (Preview) Here is the actual text from the NOE, in regards to what the test will be based upon. After reading this, I believe that there is no way this exam will get thrown out. Those who have specific questions in mind to protest, make sure you get your protest forms in asap! THE TEST : You will be given a multiple-...	smartcookie	11	2072	Oct 31, 2011 by RISING IDIOT
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