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Captains and Sgts test were. No reason to believe they wont curve this one.

3testwonder wrote:

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True. Im hearing tvb is starting first week of August. Can anyone confirm

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 Is this information solid? 

Just as I said earlier, an Lt from the 2017 is getting promoted on Friday. There are still Passovers eligible for promotion because the list expiration was extended until 2024

It's the same curve that the recent Captain and Sergeant exam received. The LT list will almost certainly be getting that same curve. 61 is the new 70!

Taketheday wrote:

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Yea i had heard .231 but .234 could be what it is now so essentially for every wrong question you get that amount per question. Lol can go from a 61 to a 75.

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 This is ridiculous lol

RachDawg wrote:

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Taketheday wrote:

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Yea i had heard .231 but .234 could be what it is now so essentially for every wrong question you get that amount per question. Lol can go from a 61 to a 75.

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 Really good standard to have

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I sure wont apologize for making Lieutenant under these standards

Correction the question is after throw outs not curb.

El Norte wrote:

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Someone said the .231 is after you get any curve points. Any truth to this or is it from raw score?

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 Im pretty sure its curve points then throwout if im not mistaken and if that gets you to a 70, then thats when Longevity/Fitness/Award Points kick in which is why someone could have a 62 raw lets say and after curve end up with an additional 8.7 points which would get them to a 70 and after that pick up 3 Throwouts and land at a 73 before any additional points Are added. Thats how some people could go from a 62 and end up with close to an 80, in curtain situations. Not everyone is gonna have Alot of Time in rank or any additional points for their score.

Then longevity, military, Fitness points are added IF the adjusted score reached a passing 70

To break this down, we can best look at it this way (assuming DCAS scaling is 0.231 per incorrect answer):

RAW score = score one gets immediately after finishing the exam.

ACTUAL score = addition of any picked up TVB throwouts, triple/double answers, etc. to the raw score.

ADJUSTED score = [ (100 - actual score) X 0.231 ] + Actual Score

FINAL ADJUSTED score = adjusted score + (seniority/military/fitness points IF 70 is reached). 

IF 70 isnt reached, then FINAL ADJUSTED is equal to the Adjusted score. 

-- Edited by HeartsNminds on Saturday 29th of July 2023 12:16:37 AM

Yes. If you already got the question correct, then youve already been awarded its point.  If you get the question wrong; you only get the point if the answer you chose is also recognized as a valid answer by the TVB.  That being said, if a question is thrown out that means any answer submitted (A, B; C, or D) will be counted (as long as you didnt leave the question blank). 

-- Edited by HeartsNminds on Saturday 29th of July 2023 02:57:04 AM

Hopefully mid August list

Joe2020 wrote:

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Stupid questionif you scored a 72 where would you be on the list if they make it to 1000

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 No assumption, go on facts. Better question is when is the list dropping?  Youll have a better visual then . 

ROUGH guesstimate? A 72 may likely wind up somewhere near 80 and be around list # 800. 

Completely not fair to get promoted after someone that actually failed the test.

Someone that failed should not leap frog someone that actually passed

Unfortunately it happens on every exam. I got a unadjusted raw score of a 71 on the recent Captains  exam. A guy next to me got a 68 on the original date.  However, due to the extra points (military/jst/Time in rank), he ended being 80 names above me, which is significant on a small Captains list. Doesn't sound fair but it's the reality of the process.

Tunit wrote:

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ROUGH guesstimate? A 72 may likely wind up somewhere near 80 and be around list # 800. 

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 Not necessarily. If its a bottom heavy list with very few original passers who scored in 90s and 80s, a 72 could be a decent score. Keep in mind the lower bulk of the list are people who had failing raw score but passed due to curve. Therefore no-one will know until the list comes out. And if true, people were saying 250 original passers, i say if you pass with raw score you are in a great position. 

Spanish mama wrote:

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Tunit wrote:

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ROUGH guesstimate? A 72 may likely wind up somewhere near 80 and be around list # 800. 

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 Not necessarily. If its a bottom heavy list with very few original passers who scored in 90s and 80s, a 72 could be a decent score. Keep in mind the lower bulk of the list are people who had failing raw score but passed due to curve. Therefore no-one will know until the list comes out. And if true, people were saying 250 original passers, i say if you pass with raw score you are in a great position. 

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 There is zero way to guesstimate, dont get this persons hopes up/tear them down 

yankeefanhatebsox wrote:

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Spanish mama wrote:

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Tunit wrote:

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ROUGH guesstimate? A 72 may likely wind up somewhere near 80 and be around list # 800. 

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 Not necessarily. If its a bottom heavy list with very few original passers who scored in 90s and 80s, a 72 could be a decent score. Keep in mind the lower bulk of the list are people who had failing raw score but passed due to curve. Therefore no-one will know until the list comes out. And if true, people were saying 250 original passers, i say if you pass with raw score you are in a great position. 

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 There is zero way to guesstimate, dont get this persons hopes up/tear them down 

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 Good point of reference is on the previous LT list an 80 ranged from list numbers 800-750 on a list of 1335 so i would assume an 80 on this list if its around 1400-1500 would be around the same ranging from 700s-800s or if you want to scale it for a bigger list then 800s-to low 900s meaning you would essentially be around the middle of the list which is alot better than being on the bottom end of the list. Thats more realistic and if they historically promote around 180-250 per year then your looking at a 3-4 year wait for a promotion 

Taketheday wrote:

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yankeefanhatebsox wrote:

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Spanish mama wrote:

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Tunit wrote:

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ROUGH guesstimate? A 72 may likely wind up somewhere near 80 and be around list # 800. 

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 Not necessarily. If its a bottom heavy list with very few original passers who scored in 90s and 80s, a 72 could be a decent score. Keep in mind the lower bulk of the list are people who had failing raw score but passed due to curve. Therefore no-one will know until the list comes out. And if true, people were saying 250 original passers, i say if you pass with raw score you are in a great position. 

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 There is zero way to guesstimate, dont get this persons hopes up/tear them down 

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 Good point of reference is on the previous LT list an 80 ranged from list numbers 800-750 on a list of 1335 so i would assume an 80 on this list if its around 1400-1500 would be around the same ranging from 700s-800s or if you want to scale it for a bigger list then 800s-to low 900s meaning you would essentially be around the middle of the list which is alot better than being on the bottom end of the list. Thats more realistic and if they historically promote around 180-250 per year then your looking at a 3-4 year wait for a promotion 

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 But that test an 80 was more low middle raw score..and they didnt have a ton of throw outs 

 

an 80 on this test raw prob puts you in top 100-125 based on scores we have heard so far

Allout wrote:

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I sent another foil request last month with no response.  Im still hearing mid August though

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 Did TVB start or finish ?

There has to be some sort of news by now. At the VERY LEAST the amount of original passers on a FOIL request. Is DCAS really withholding information this much nowadays ?

There is zero reason to think this is coming out this month. No one even knows if tvb is even done yet and they promoted someone from the last list just a few days ago. Gonna be a bit.