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TransitCop · Senior Member

LT Exam Scores

SATCOM · Senior Member

Aeiouy wrote:
Passit100 wrote:
SATCOM wrote:
Weak rumor today that the number is 431.

-- Edited by SATCOM on Sunday 2nd of April 2023 03:50:07 PM
431 sgts passed??
Sounds much more likely than 200 something like the previous rumor going around.

If this is true, then the curve might be closer to the mid 60s. I think that would more or less double the list with 2-3 throw-outs.

BlastLivesMatter · Senior Member

Just give a normal exam in 2 years.

Aceshooter419 · Member

Anyone know someone waiting to take the make up or date the make up is being given? Sounds like DCAS doesnt want to release the passers until after the protest.

3testwonder · Senior Member

Passing score will essentially be a 60

brooklynbacon · Guru

BlastLivesMatter wrote:
Just give a normal exam in 2 years.

All lists will span four years from now on.

TenFour16 · Guru

TransitCop wrote:
With 431 passer and probably another 700 on cusp within that 65-70 range who needs a curve.

I think that Math may be a little off, yes its true that an exam like this sill be bottom heavy but not enough to where 700 people are within 5 points. Thats a little extreme.

3testwonder · Senior Member

To get another 700 people youd probably be reaching into the high 50s

Codgreen · Member

Aceshooter419 wrote:
Anyone know someone waiting to take the make up or date the make up is being given? Sounds like DCAS doesnt want to release the passers until after the protest.

Yes there is a make-up this Wednesday

narco26 · Senior Member

People stop it with nonsense it people in the low 60s will make it. With the make up and a couple of throw outs list will be easily in the 700s. Lts lists were always small except the last one. So my advice start studying in 3 years.

Bill Parcells · Senior Member

narco26 wrote:
People stop it with nonsense it people in the low 60s will make it. With the make up and a couple of throw outs list will be easily in the 700s. Lts lists were always small except the last one. So my advice start studying in 3 years.

People who failed should stick with what's the current reality: they failed and that they won't get made. Whatever happens down the road that benefits them is simply icing on the cake.

3testwonder · Senior Member

Lol. You do know that the last 3-4 exams all had people fail then pass. For example that Sgt exam had hundred of failures who then passed and jumped people who initially passed. There will be lawsuits if they dont do the same for this one. This exam was 10 times more difficult then the 2017 sgt and lt exam and those were curved

TransitCop · Senior Member

Stop posting here and start thinking how you going to argue your protest questions. No one here knows anything besides rumors at this point.

3testwonder · Senior Member

Help me protest

TransitCop · Senior Member

3testwonder wrote:
Help me protest

Ill be there on the 13th in Queens doing my best with my PG in tow. Im 13 points away which is a Hail Mary protest session for me but at this point I want to see where I went wrong if that could have be avoided. My hat is off to all the savants in here who were able to memorize all the minutia in the procedures that writers went to.

-- Edited by TransitCop on Monday 3rd of April 2023 07:44:45 PM

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

3testwonder wrote:
Lol. You do know that the last 3-4 exams all had people fail then pass. For example that Sgt exam had hundred of failures who then passed and jumped people who initially passed. There will be lawsuits if they dont do the same for this one. This exam was 10 times more difficult then the 2017 sgt and lt exam and those were curved

Theres not going to be lawsuits, you cant just sue because a test was difficult. Yes the test sucked, but all the material was fair game.

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

The sad part about getting score right away is that no one cares anymore, I asked several ppl in command if they wanted to go over questions to protest and no one is going to protest.

Futureauxiliary · Guru

That suing rumor has been around since exams were administered. Your best bet is to protest every questions possible that you got wrong and hope it gets tossed. Time to move on with the reality that it was a bullshit and super shitty exam. Protest as much questions and sit back and relax to seen how this all plays out.

El Norte · Senior Member

People that passed congratulations you studied hard. To the ones need the extra points I wish you the best of luck, Im sure you many of you studied just as hard this was just a screwed up exam. Hopefully everyones efforts will pay off when dust settles.

I rise · Senior Member

I will for sure

Johnny Zurita · Member

narco26 wrote:
People stop it with nonsense it people in the low 60s will make it. With the make up and a couple of throw outs list will be easily in the 700s. Lts lists were always small except the last one. So my advice start studying in 3 years.

These people are very delusional, thinking they will get promoted again after scoring another 50s and 60s on the last sgt and Lt exam. How about study harder next time and actually score a passing score of 70?? stop with these nonsense curves already! Enough is enough.

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

I did well on exam but to say "study harder" doesnt apply to this exam. I could have gave you all 100 procedures that were questioned and you still wouldnt get near a 90.

Instead of trolling people who feel like they wasted 6 months of their lives, how about say that we should just have a fair exam? No curve, no tricks, just fair.

If they gave a fair exam, and someone died on list, then yes...study harder. But dont insult people or bring down people that studied their ass off only to get tripped up on a tricky exam.

No1isbetter · Senior Member

Johnny either passed & is afraid of the curve dropping him on the list or failed miserably & wants company with his misery.

Futureauxiliary · Guru

Make up exam is being administered today. Does anyone know when military take theirs or are they also taking it today ?

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

narco26 has been so consistently wrong on everything that you can predict the future based off the opposite of what he says.

3testwonder · Senior Member

As per foil request. 2465 took the exam

El Norte · Senior Member

Does anyone know what score they reached on captains and Sergeants exam with curve and throw outs?

TenFour16 · Guru

3testwonder wrote:
As per foil request. 2465 took the exam

Screenshot ?

3testwonder · Senior Member

tweezy · Senior Member

NauseousPBBN wrote:
I did well on exam but to say "study harder" doesnt apply to this exam. I could have gave you all 100 procedures that were questioned and you still wouldnt get near a 90.

Instead of trolling people who feel like they wasted 6 months of their lives, how about say that we should just have a fair exam? No curve, no tricks, just fair.

If they gave a fair exam, and someone died on list, then yes...study harder. But dont insult people or bring down people that studied their ass off only to get tripped up on a tricky exam.

If they gave u all 100 procedures for 6 months and dont score in the 90s you have a learning disability

SATCOM · Senior Member

3testwonder wrote:

2465 is super low. I'm curious if that had anything to do with the 2021 contract bringing us to livable wages.

Ticonderoga · Senior Member

SATCOM wrote:
3testwonder wrote:

2465 is super low. I'm curious if that had anything to do with the 2021 contract bringing us to livable wages.

Not that low, there's only 4210 SGT's in rank right now. 2465 is over half.

3testwonder · Senior Member

With make ups id say over 2500. If only 300-400 pass thats super low.

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

tweezy wrote:
NauseousPBBN wrote:
I did well on exam but to say "study harder" doesnt apply to this exam. I could have gave you all 100 procedures that were questioned and you still wouldnt get near a 90.

Instead of trolling people who feel like they wasted 6 months of their lives, how about say that we should just have a fair exam? No curve, no tricks, just fair.

If they gave a fair exam, and someone died on list, then yes...study harder. But dont insult people or bring down people that studied their ass off only to get tripped up on a tricky exam.
If they gave u all 100 procedures for 6 months and dont score in the 90s you have a learning disability

You obviously either didnt take the test or scored low for making that comment, completely missed the point. I wish we could discuss further but I rather not assist those who still have to take exam.

Itsjustajob · Member

How many more make up exams are there aside from todays?

brooklynbacon · Guru

Itsjustajob wrote:
How many more make up exams are there aside from todays?

Theres still at least one more for military.

-- Edited by brooklynbacon on Thursday 6th of April 2023 01:38:07 AM

DeptIsaJoke · Member

What he said is accurate. I could recite procedures to you, but that's not the kind of test it was.

El Norte · Senior Member

Does anyone have any idea about how many names one point can affect your place on the list? I know a lot of us are in the same ballpark, just trying to get an idea.

Futureauxiliary · Guru

El Norte wrote:
Does anyone have any idea about how many names one point can affect your place on the list? I know a lot of us are in the same ballpark, just trying to get an idea.

Im going to go ahead and say that this exam will be bottom heavy. Very few scored between 90s and 80s.

RamJamFlamSong · Senior Member

They said the same thing about the Sergeant exam and that turned out to be a lie.

KeyCapt · THE KEY—Instructor

Futureauxiliary wrote:
El Norte wrote:
Does anyone have any idea about how many names one point can affect your place on the list? I know a lot of us are in the same ballpark, just trying to get an idea.
Im going to go ahead and say that this exam will be bottom heavy. Very few scored between 90s and 80s.

One point on a Sergeant list is approximately 100 names...

#bestinthebusiness

TenFour16 · Guru

KeyCapt wrote:
Futureauxiliary wrote:
El Norte wrote:
Does anyone have any idea about how many names one point can affect your place on the list? I know a lot of us are in the same ballpark, just trying to get an idea.
Im going to go ahead and say that this exam will be bottom heavy. Very few scored between 90s and 80s.
One point on a Sergeant list is approximately 100 names...
#bestinthebusiness

People have throwing around that you said the pass rate for this Lts test (raw test day scores) are about 10%. Can you confirm this or are people just making stuff up.

KeyCapt · THE KEY—Instructor

TenFour16 wrote:
KeyCapt wrote:
Futureauxiliary wrote:
El Norte wrote:
Does anyone have any idea about how many names one point can affect your place on the list? I know a lot of us are in the same ballpark, just trying to get an idea.
Im going to go ahead and say that this exam will be bottom heavy. Very few scored between 90s and 80s.
One point on a Sergeant list is approximately 100 names...
#bestinthebusiness
People have throwing around that you said the pass rate for this Lts test (raw test day scores) are about 10%. Can you confirm this or are people just making stuff up.

That is false; I have not indicated any passing rate what so ever. Once I receive concrete info I will post.

#bestinthebusiness

El Norte · Senior Member

I think a 10% pass rate sounds realistic, even though it hasnt Been confirmed. That is still about 250 passers considering all the indications from the low number of passers in many commands. The question is how big of a list the job wants and that will determine where everyone stands. Ive heard under normal circumstances the Job promotes about 200 Lieutent per year. Anyone have any guesses as to how big this list could possibly be when its all said and done?

3testwonder · Senior Member

Probably 1200

Futureauxiliary · Guru

200x4=800. At minimum they would need a list of 800-1,000.

-- Edited by Futureauxiliary on Monday 10th of April 2023 04:04:25 PM

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

Wasn't the last list like 1400? I can see them panicking that the new contract will bring more cops so they will need more lts.

narco26 · Senior Member

Im just happy a volunteer rat failed

3testwonder · Senior Member

60 and above will be on the list, congratulations

SATCOM · Senior Member

DCAS closed my foil request. "The information requested is not available at this time."