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Poopoomagoo · Member

RE: New!* Protest questions

Cfgl1888 · Senior Member

sig226 wrote:
Cfgl1888 wrote:
Now one I am thinking could be successful is the off duty employment question. Unless I'm remembering wrong it stated the "correct" answer was to be a security guard at a market licensed by the SLA for off premise consumption. Now one part of the procedure says you can be employed at that type of location, however guarding a licensed premise is specifically prohibited elsewhere in the procedure. To me this can be protested as no correct answers because nowhere in the procedure does it define a licensed premise, so I don't think you can say you are wrong to state that a premise that possesses a license from the SLA is a "licensed premise".
If the question stem locked you in by that particular procedure then you have to answer accordingly and forget whatever it says otherwise in other parts of patrol guide

I know but all the statements I mentioned are in the procedure that the question locked you into.

Cfgl1888 · Senior Member

Poopoomagoo wrote:
tweezy wrote:
Poopoomagoo wrote:
Was D, 'owned by his sgt' or 'owned by a sgt' or 'owed by a Sgt in his command'?
because the legal definition of a licensed premise is any business that sells alcohol or tobacco for retail or consumption on premise. So a supermarket selling beer is a licensed premise by that definition and we are not allowed to be security guards at a licensed premise. The patrol guide however does not define a licensed premise....but ny.sla.gov does.
I see what you're saying, but thats kind of stretching it, especially because it states you can work in a supermarket that sells beer in the patrol guide.
it says 'employment at a supermarket ' in the patrol guide. But option 'b' was 'security guard at a supermarket selling beer' and that type of employment is not allowed. Now I don't remember the wording of option D....but something tells me that, that question was one of the trickiest questions on the whole test, and it was designed for us to knee jerk when we saw the word 'supermarket '

All the other choices were 100% wrong as per the prohibitions, basically I think whoever wrote the questions just slipped up and wrote security guard without realizing the conflict. That's why I'm saying there are no correct answers, everything is prohibited as per that procedure.

Poopoomagoo · Member

Perhaps we have a guaranteed throw out ? Legitimately.

TransitJoe · Senior Member

The other 3 choices were 100% not allowed. I think this one will stick because of "most correct"

BORICUAPLATINUM · Veteran Member

What about the concurrent Jurisdiction. The fact that they didn't tell u the aunts age?

DRPapi1983 · Guru

crappants wrote:
sig226 wrote:
Speaking of incidental situations... Snatching purse by force is Rob3 then how come everyone swears correct answer choice is Assault 2
Snatching the purse is Grand Larceny . causi Pi to a 3rd party in a commission of A felony is assault 2 for the guy that fell down. 2 different 61s. They only asked about the guy that fell down.

They just don't get it bruh ,...lol

LAR44 · Veteran Member

CaballoRageRises wrote:
The uber driver didnt get robbed?

What?! yes he did

LAR44 · Veteran Member

sig226 wrote:
Cfgl1888 wrote:
Now one I am thinking could be successful is the off duty employment question. Unless I'm remembering wrong it stated the "correct" answer was to be a security guard at a market licensed by the SLA for off premise consumption. Now one part of the procedure says you can be employed at that type of location, however guarding a licensed premise is specifically prohibited elsewhere in the procedure. To me this can be protested as no correct answers because nowhere in the procedure does it define a licensed premise, so I don't think you can say you are wrong to state that a premise that possesses a license from the SLA is a "licensed premise".
If the question stem locked you in by that particular procedure then you have to answer accordingly and forget whatever it says otherwise in other parts of patrol guide

I think your right sig

LAR44 · Veteran Member

BORICUAPLATINUM wrote:
What about the concurrent Jurisdiction. The fact that they didn't tell u the aunts age?

100% that's going to be my argument. You need an AGE of the family member in order to have concurrent. We can ASSume she is over 16, but who knows?...

JDMEVO9 · Senior Member

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-- Edited by JDMEVO9 on Wednesday 30th of August 2017 05:05:40 PM

icons_06 · Veteran Member

In regards to the CEW question it was a double answer ... yes you do send the cop in the bus with the aided I don't argue that being wrong BUT it also refers you to 221-03 TRI where you also have the cop take photos of a CEW aided/perp ... I picked the latter so I'll be fighting this one ... they lock you into 221-08 but the refer you to 221-03 which makes it fair as well ... do I have an argument ??

crappants · Senior Member

If u got that wrong . You didn't read the patrolguide or went to class

Jibberjab · Senior Member

icons_06 wrote:
In regards to the CEW question it was a double answer ... yes you do send the cop in the bus with the aided I don't argue that being wrong BUT it also refers you to 221-03 TRI where you also have the cop take photos of a CEW aided/perp ... I picked the latter so I'll be fighting this one ... they lock you into 221-08 but the refer you to 221-03 which makes it fair as well ... do I have an argument ??

No. Because it said YOU take pictures, not the cop. Unless your taking a ride and hanging out at the hospital your not taking any pictures.

crappants · Senior Member

Jibberjab wrote:
icons_06 wrote:
In regards to the CEW question it was a double answer ... yes you do send the cop in the bus with the aided I don't argue that being wrong BUT it also refers you to 221-03 TRI where you also have the cop take photos of a CEW aided/perp ... I picked the latter so I'll be fighting this one ... they lock you into 221-08 but the refer you to 221-03 which makes it fair as well ... do I have an argument ??
No. Because it said YOU take pictures, not the cop. Unless your taking a ride and hanging out at the hospital your not taking any pictures.

Yeap it had the lieutenant taking picture of the subject and that is wrong

BORICUAPLATINUM · Veteran Member

Lmao ... so I guess trying to argue the age is a no no.

LAR44 · Veteran Member

The age of the perp (aunt) is definitely needed in order to have concurrent jurisdiction! Read 208-36...I guarantee this question was meant to trick us (as per the "notes" statement)

LAR44 · Veteran Member

crappants wrote:
Jibberjab wrote:
icons_06 wrote:
In regards to the CEW question it was a double answer ... yes you do send the cop in the bus with the aided I don't argue that being wrong BUT it also refers you to 221-03 TRI where you also have the cop take photos of a CEW aided/perp ... I picked the latter so I'll be fighting this one ... they lock you into 221-08 but the refer you to 221-03 which makes it fair as well ... do I have an argument ??
No. Because it said YOU take pictures, not the cop. Unless your taking a ride and hanging out at the hospital your not taking any pictures.
Yeap it had the lieutenant taking picture of the subject and that is wrong

Does anyone remember what the exact question was? One of the answers was to have the COP take the photos which is wrong

crappants · Senior Member

LAR44 wrote:
crappants wrote:
Jibberjab wrote:
icons_06 wrote:
In regards to the CEW question it was a double answer ... yes you do send the cop in the bus with the aided I don't argue that being wrong BUT it also refers you to 221-03 TRI where you also have the cop take photos of a CEW aided/perp ... I picked the latter so I'll be fighting this one ... they lock you into 221-08 but the refer you to 221-03 which makes it fair as well ... do I have an argument ??
No. Because it said YOU take pictures, not the cop. Unless your taking a ride and hanging out at the hospital your not taking any pictures.
Yeap it had the lieutenant taking picture of the subject and that is wrong
Does anyone remember what the exact question was? One of the answers was to have the COP take the photos which is wrong

All i know it was a groundball question

Screamingator1 · Member

"One of the answers was to have the COP take the photos which is wrong"

221-08

26. Direct member of the service to take photographs of points of contact on
subjects body resulting from CEW darts or drive stun.

LAR44 · Veteran Member

Screamingator1 wrote:
"One of the answers was to have the COP take the photos which is wrong"

221-08

26. Direct member of the service to take photographs of points of contact on
subjects body resulting from CEW darts or drive stun.

IMMEDIATE

SUPERVISOR

31. Perform duties of the immediate supervisor as per P.G. 221-03,

Reporting and Investigation of Force Incident or Injury to Persons

During Police Action.

32. Take digital photographs of points of contact on subjects body resulting

from CEW darts or drive stun.

WELL LOOOOOOOKY HERE GATOR!

LAR44 · Veteran Member

LAR44 wrote:
Screamingator1 wrote:
"One of the answers was to have the COP take the photos which is wrong"

221-08

26. Direct member of the service to take photographs of points of contact on
subjects body resulting from CEW darts or drive stun.

IMMEDIATE

SUPERVISOR

31. Perform duties of the immediate supervisor as per P.G. 221-03,

Reporting and Investigation of Force Incident or Injury to Persons

During Police Action.

32. Take digital photographs of points of contact on subjects body resulting

from CEW darts or drive stun.

WELL LOOOOOOOKY HERE GATOR!

AND NOT FOR NOTHING BUT THIS IS WHAT MY PATROL GUIDE LOOKS LIKE, DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR READING

26. Assign member of the service to ride in body of ambulance with prisoner

or aided.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

lets just wait and see what happens,..just a few more weeks ,...

RS2323 · Senior Member

Trying to figure out if crapppants is a troll or not. Pretty sure he is; he sounds like he has some serious issues..

DRPapi1983 · Guru

RS2323 wrote:
Trying to figure out if crapppants is a troll or not. Pretty sure he is; he sounds like he has some serious issues..

He sure does lol

Team J · Senior Member

LAR44 wrote:
LAR44 wrote:
Screamingator1 wrote:
"One of the answers was to have the COP take the photos which is wrong"

221-08

26. Direct member of the service to take photographs of points of contact on
subjects body resulting from CEW darts or drive stun.

IMMEDIATE

SUPERVISOR

31. Perform duties of the immediate supervisor as per P.G. 221-03,

Reporting and Investigation of Force Incident or Injury to Persons

During Police Action.

32. Take digital photographs of points of contact on subjects body resulting

from CEW darts or drive stun.

WELL LOOOOOOOKY HERE GATOR!

AND NOT FOR NOTHING BUT THIS IS WHAT MY PATROL GUIDE LOOKS LIKE, DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR READING

26. Assign member of the service to ride in body of ambulance with prisoner

or aided.

There was a interim order #43 Which was issued on 6/1/17 which changed that . The test cut off date was 4/30/17 I believe . Prior to that interim order the immedate supervisor did direct that photos be taken.

sig226 · Senior Member

Did question said anything about "as per 221-03 AND 221-08" if yes then you might have a valid point.
But I am sure it didn't. The scenario and question stem locked you in to 221-08 where LT directed cop to ride in the bus. Other answer choices were cop/Desk officer duty

Screamingator1 · Member

You beat me to it Team J!

LAR44 wrote: "AND NOT FOR NOTHING BUT THIS IS WHAT MY PATROL GUIDE LOOKS LIKE, DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR READING"

Well, I was reading the correct version of the book for this test...Not trying to fight a war with you either, in fact you had me second guessing myself when I saw your post. But that was just one of those facts that happened to stick out for me as being weird. The job went through all this trouble to make sure a supervisor was conducting this "investigation" but then leaves it up to the cop or more likely one of his co-workers to gather the most important piece of "evidence". They probably realized their error when they started getting a bunch of low light, fuzzy pictures and decided to make the revision having the boss take his own pictures. Looks like the test writers were either a bit more saavy than we thought or simply only had material up to April, 30th to write questions from and happened to pick something that was recently changed. Let's try to keep this civil...

LAR44 · Veteran Member

Screamingator1 wrote:
You beat me to it Team J!

LAR44 wrote: "AND NOT FOR NOTHING BUT THIS IS WHAT MY PATROL GUIDE LOOKS LIKE, DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR READING"

Well, I was reading the correct version of the book for this test...Not trying to fight a war with you either, in fact you had me second guessing myself when I saw your post. But that was just one of those facts that happened to stick out for me as being weird. The job went through all this trouble to make sure a supervisor was conducting this "investigation" but then leaves it up to the cop or more likely one of his co-workers to gather the most important piece of "evidence". They probably realized their error when they started getting a bunch of low light, fuzzy pictures and decided to make the revision having the boss take his own pictures. Looks like the test writers were either a bit more saavy than we thought or simply only had material up to April, 30th to write questions from and happened to pick something that was recently changed. Let's try to keep this civil...

Not trying to be a douche brother, I can im wrong. I wish you the best on the exam. I didn't catch that,your better than me

LAR44 · Veteran Member

Screamingator1 wrote:
You beat me to it Team J!

LAR44 wrote: "AND NOT FOR NOTHING BUT THIS IS WHAT MY PATROL GUIDE LOOKS LIKE, DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR READING"

Well, I was reading the correct version of the book for this test...Not trying to fight a war with you either, in fact you had me second guessing myself when I saw your post. But that was just one of those facts that happened to stick out for me as being weird. The job went through all this trouble to make sure a supervisor was conducting this "investigation" but then leaves it up to the cop or more likely one of his co-workers to gather the most important piece of "evidence". They probably realized their error when they started getting a bunch of low light, fuzzy pictures and decided to make the revision having the boss take his own pictures. Looks like the test writers were either a bit more saavy than we thought or simply only had material up to April, 30th to write questions from and happened to pick something that was recently changed. Let's try to keep this civil...

Not trying to be a douche brother, I can im wrong. I wish you the best on the exam. I didn't catch that,your better than me

Chew11 · Senior Member

Yanosik himself said he didn't think they would go to that because it was recently changed. However, the answer on April 29, was for the cop to take the pictures no ifs ands or buts. They changed it after the cutoff. But that is why there is a cutoff date.

Chew11 · Senior Member

He pointed out that specific item MULTIPLE TIMES

MandM · Member

COPS LOOOOOOOOOVEEEEEEE TO TALK!!! INCREDIBLE!!!!!

DRPapi1983 · Guru

MandM wrote:
COPS LOOOOOOOOOVEEEEEEE TO TALK!!! INCREDIBLE!!!!!

Lmaaooooooooooooooo

Shampoo · Veteran Member

MandM wrote:
COPS LOOOOOOOOOVEEEEEEE TO TALK!!! INCREDIBLE!!!!!

Facts.

sig226 · Senior Member

Does anyone remember the last answer choice to beards question?

rookiebit_h · Guru

EEO can grant more than .5 inch if necessary or something like that

sig226 · Senior Member

rookiebit_h wrote:
EEO can grant more than .5 inch if necessary or something like that

That was answer choice C, the correct one.

What was for D

thanx anyway

OhGawd · Senior Member

Shampoo wrote:
MandM wrote:
COPS LOOOOOOOOOVEEEEEEE TO TALK!!! INCREDIBLE!!!!!
Facts.

Many Facts