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bluecollar · Senior Member

RE: October/November BMOC, The next 100

He-man34 · Veteran Member

Congratulations to all those who made it!

Ticket fixer · Member

I'm in

tfguy · Veteran Member

Congratulations to all who made it this month.
To everyone else still waiting like I am, hang in there.
Disregard the gloom and doom that people are starting to spread. All these guesses about when the list is getting cut or if it's getting cut. Can we drop it, we all worked hard for this. Just because you made it already, or your on the next list waiting for this one to finish doesn't mean it's ok to start casing shadows over other people.

Shotsfired · Guru

Omg bro the list is not getting cut stop talking about!! Jesus lol. You can't possibly be that shaky.

tfguy · Veteran Member

I didn't say it's getting cut. I'm talking about all the people on here spreading rumors. Every time a new list comes out instead of us just congratulating people who made it. All people do on here is talk about who isn't going to make it.

Redonkeylous · Member

No one is saying the list is getting cut, sans a few trolls on this site. The whole list will be made by may. Just be patient.

Shotsfired · Guru

I hear ya brother. Patience and you will be there before you know it. Good luck.

Secret Squirrel · Veteran Member

So what list number are we up to guys?

He-man34 · Veteran Member

Congratulations to all who made it!

Shotsfired · Guru

I think they said 1303.

He-man34 · Veteran Member

Today I feel betrayed by a job that I love, since day one I have given it my all, I have always worked hard and earned my paycheck working not just showing up. Not only have I worked hard but also effectively, for the amount of activity I have done the complaints against me are nonsense and worthless of only those retaliating against me for doing my job well. I have never been suspended, modified, or given charges and specs or been on any type of monitoring. I have received nothing but praise from all of my supervisors. But with all that all I am told is we are not considering you at this time and we cannot give you anymore information. I will continue to keep my head high knowing I am an excellent police officer and will hope that this department could recognize that I deserve this promotion as much as anyone else.

-- Edited by He-man34 on Wednesday 1st of October 2014 09:53:06 PM

Secret Squirrel · Veteran Member

If that's the case, I'm less than 20 out...Yay! Congrats to all who made it!!

Secret Squirrel · Veteran Member

@ He-Man, what do u mean? They can't just not give u a reason???

He-man34 · Veteran Member

They told me all we can tell you is we're not considering you at this time and cannot tell you the reason.

Secret Squirrel · Veteran Member

I think it's time to make some phone calls... Don't just take it sitting down!

Secret Squirrel · Veteran Member

Call civil service commission! They should be able to guide you as far as who to call and what they can do on their end!

queensfinest · Senior Member

Like I've always said you can get passed over for the following things.

1-iab on going case

2-force monitoring

3-inspections open case

4.oeeo

you will never know you have a ongoing investigation untill you are passed over or called for a GO15.HEMAN if it's not that's serious They will clear you for the next class.For now go to your ico and ask.If you have done nothing wrong you will get promoted.

-- Edited by queensfinest on Wednesday 1st of October 2014 09:51:52 PM

-- Edited by queensfinest on Wednesday 1st of October 2014 09:52:44 PM

-- Edited by queensfinest on Wednesday 1st of October 2014 10:23:58 PM

bklyn13 · Senior Member

Sorry heman.... pretty sure guys in here will tell u who to call in this case

Shotsfired · Guru

Wow bro that's a sh*t feeling. Hope everything clears up for you for next class.

bluecollar · Senior Member

Call labor relations and see what they tell you. They may be able to at least get some more information or lead you down the right path.

Good luck though man because that's really sucky and upsetting. Stay tough!

He-man34 · Veteran Member

Thanks for the support!

BoogieDownMarine · Senior Member

If they won't tell you, it's either an open case (IAB, EEO, etc..) or force monitoring, and not even your ICO can look up your open cases...

-- Edited by BoogieDownMarine on Thursday 2nd of October 2014 12:15:13 AM

TV1234 · Veteran Member

Do you have any idea what it can be? Maybe someone made a complaint against you

Semp1 · Guru

They have to tell you. That's actually unheard of.

Zookeeper6 · Veteran Member

How many lawsuits do you have? Also you will be contacted by EMD but be proactive call emd

soccerpsyco32 · Senior Member

If you are not being told why you have been skipped that is a clear indication that you are probably the subject of an investigation far more serious than an open ccrb case. Being skipped without being informed of the reason why would indicate, in my opinion, that you are the subject of an IAB or OEEO investigation, and that it is serious enough to merit the withholding of all information to you. Good luck brother.

CHINSTRAP · Veteran Member

phew glad I was right about the class size, so I don't look like an idiot. Congrats to all. Hopefully they promote in nov and dec!

bngeek · Senior Member

Congratulations to all who made it. I'm in this one. My apologies for doubting some of you who predicted the number. I had been hearing something different from a reliable source but I am glad that my source was wrong!

Su Madre 24 · Guru

You can feel confident of a nov class more so than a Dec class

InTheWind · Veteran Member

Let's hope for 75 in November

CHINSTRAP · Veteran Member

InTheWind wrote:
Let's hope for 75 in November

One can only hope for that! Let's keep these classes going. I am early to mid 1400's.

CHINSTRAP · Veteran Member

He-man keep your head up. You WILL make it in. I was in the top 65 on the 2009 list. they passed me over so many times, I couldn't keep count. End result, I died on the list and never made it. I had to take the 2011 exam and passed it again. if you have something open they have to pass you over. Again, hold your head high. They would love to see you shut down and do nothing. Then CARB will have a reason to skip you. keep doing your thing and it will all work out.

NinR · Senior Member

First of all CONGRATS to all 55 who made it!
I'm sorry for He-man34. That's like a worst nightmare that anyone of us can face when your number is up. You don't know it until it actually happens to you.
I'm about 60 names away. Hoping November is not gonna be a down month and keep up the pace. Good luck to the rest of this list!

JudgeDredd · Senior Member

Does anyone have the numbers for labor relations or civil service commission?

-- Edited by JudgeDredd on Thursday 2nd of October 2014 02:51:08 PM

smartcookie · Senior Member

JudgeDredd wrote:
Does anyone have the numbers for labor relations or civil service commission?

-- Edited by JudgeDredd on Thursday 2nd of October 2014 02:51:08 PM

Labor Relations: (646) 610-5060

He-man34 · Veteran Member

What exactly can/will labor relations be able to do?

bluecollar · Senior Member

I'm not sure what they can exactly do but they will be able to tell you your rights and at least point you in the right direction. It's worth the time it will take just to give them a call. That's a great office & they are here to help you.

Failboat · Senior Member

HE-MAN thats awful! Best of luck to you! Keep us posted!

TV1234 · Veteran Member

HE-MAN I wish you the best. Do you have any idea? Maybe a lawsuit, your a witness, or someone made a complaint against you?

BoogieDownMarine · Senior Member

I got promoted 2 years ago with 5 or 6 open lawsuits that i'm still going to corp counsel for, they don't matter, especially if you are indemnified in all of them and the corp counsel has taken up your defense. Being a witness does not count against you in any way. You are definitely the subject of some kind of open case. You won't find out what it is until you get GO-15'd or it gets closed out. Trust me on this. You said you never got charges and specs nor were you ever on force or performance monitoring. It has to be an open case. Once it's closed out, your ICO can look it up and tell you what it was about. While it's open, only IAB knows what its about and they sure as hell won't tell you. NOBODY will tell you whats going on until you get GO'd or its closed out.

spartan85 · Senior Member

HE-MAN I've said this 100 times already. There are several reasons to get passed over.

1) lawsuits with significant cash settlements or guilty verdicts.

2) performance monitoring

3) pending departmental charges! (Not ccrb charges) or charges which have been signed off on but carried a severe penalty I.e 30 day hit and probation.

4) any open IAB investigation titles "c" - which means open corruption investigations. (Nobody will tell you if you have one of these open)

For 1,2 & 3 you go to carb. For the last one if the case is unfounded they will just clear you and put you in the class. If it's founded they may send you to carb or most likely deem you unpromotable due to a corruption substantiated investigation.

If you don't know what happened you obviously have the last one.... good luck

spartan85 · Senior Member

Oh and IAB has 18 months to hold onto a case before a disposition is mandatory.

NinR · Senior Member

spartan85 wrote:
Oh and IAB has 18 months to hold onto a case before a disposition is mandatory.

Open IAB investigation and you are a witness. Is that a problem, will that hold off promotion?

queensfinest · Senior Member

No

20yrsandOut · Senior Member

What day is promotion for the october class? Any word on when your getting your assignments?

spartan85 · Senior Member

NinR wrote:
spartan85 wrote:
Oh and IAB has 18 months to hold onto a case before a disposition is mandatory.
Open IAB investigation and you are a witness. Is that a problem, will that hold off promotion?

No. Unless you witnessed corruption in which case you failed to report it.

CHINSTRAP · Veteran Member

They are graduating on Halloween. No word on a November class yet.

bluecollar · Senior Member

and get commands 10/30

NinR · Senior Member

queensfinest, spartan85 Thank you guys. I'm way to close to promotion to miss it. 50-60 names away.