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Truthseeker · Guru

New contract

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

What does that all mean for the starting pay and how much retro do the people that werent at top pay get? So many questions..sigh

Truthseeker · Guru

Starting pay only goes up by percentage increase.then in 2025 add those below figures for additional increases most likely due to lt top pay w their contract. As for retro just take your pay now and times it by .0325 to see retro for first year. Then itll be alil more bc they will owe you part of 3.25 that took effect 8/1/23

AllOutofLuck · Member

Whats the additional 4 day a week release position?

-- Edited by AllOutofLuck on Sunday 24th of September 2023 12:06:24 AM

-- Edited by AllOutofLuck on Sunday 24th of September 2023 12:06:47 AM

New2this22 · Veteran Member

4 day work week?

brooklynbacon · Guru

So whats top pay at?

Truthseeker · Guru

Salary charts

ullage amount · Veteran Member

So starting salary for cpt is 182k? Not bad

RookieScum4Life · Senior Member

ullage amount wrote:
So starting salary for cpt is 182k? Not bad

No those are the top pay numbers with the new contract. Starting pay will be around 150

ThisJobSucks23 · Newbie

AllOutofLuck wrote:
Whats the additional 4 day a week release position?

-- Edited by AllOutofLuck on Sunday 24th of September 2023 12:06:24 AM

-- Edited by AllOutofLuck on Sunday 24th of September 2023 12:06:47 AM

Its an additional CEA member who will get a 4 day a week full release to go work on union business. Basically another union trustee was negotiated

RookieScum4Life · Senior Member

-- Edited by RookieScum4Life on Friday 6th of October 2023 11:36:28 PM

-- Edited by RookieScum4Life on Friday 6th of October 2023 11:37:12 PM

AllOutofLuck · Member

Any word 10 Hour Tours for Capts?

Zeph · Senior Member

Oh God! Like theyre not already doing those hours.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Nothing yet.

Bill Parcells · Senior Member

Should be coming...Lou Turco and the union are going to fold on 12 hour tours. Once they pass the vote to bring it to the membership, the membership will sadly vote yes. Most of these LTs just simply want the money. So 12 hour tours coming for the LBA, 10 hour tours not far off for Captains

Nypdnypd3100 · Senior Member

Why is that sadly? Less appearances = more time with your family. I would vote on 24 hour tours if it was possible.

Lucas Hobbs · Member

Mandatory weekend coverage. Stats usually on Wednesday / Thursdays. Community meetings usually on Tuesdays. Youd just be answering calls and emails from home for three days instead of two days. Tough to pick three days off in my opinion. Besides, its seldom a captain would leave work after 8/9 hours.

Nypdnypd3100 · Senior Member

Ooo okay. I was referring to it from a Lieutenants perspective. But I can see what you mean when it comes to rank of captain.

Leslie · Guru

This job is bleeding personnel left and right. If you think your rdos will not get touched and youll have more time with the fam youre out of your mind. 8:45 still allows you to do either pick up or drop offs for the kids. Working 10 or 12 hour tours kills any possibility of that every single day youre scheduled to work. Plus ot is harder to do after 10/12 hrs of work and again lets see if you actually get to be off on your rdos. They are selling you a dream, the job just wants you at work for longer hrs. I used to say 25 and out but Im caving its 20 and out

Edubz · Senior Member

For CO/XO spots being off 3 days a week is unrealistic. You have the aforementioned meetings and stats, and then you have to prep when you're not at those meetings/stats. Then throw in details/demos/duties/coverages on top of that. You need to be there 5 days a week thats the bottom line.

ullage amount · Veteran Member

Everything is realistic if they gonna increase headcount for captains.

ullage amount · Veteran Member

Are you on the list Leslie?

-- Edited by ullage amount on Wednesday 11th of October 2023 06:52:31 PM

DT-Tres · Senior Member

Leslie wrote:
This job is bleeding personnel left and right. If you think your rdos will not get touched and youll have more time with the fam youre out of your mind. 8:45 still allows you to do either pick up or drop offs for the kids. Working 10 or 12 hour tours kills any possibility of that every single day youre scheduled to work. Plus ot is harder to do after 10/12 hrs of work and again lets see if you actually get to be off on your rdos. They are selling you a dream, the job just wants you at work for longer hrs. I used to say 25 and out but Im caving its 20 and out

I agree with you. I don't think I am sticking around. I wanted to do 25, the last 5 in the rank of capt, but it's becoming too challenging to do that.

Leslie · Guru

ullage amount wrote:
Are you on the list Leslie?

-- Edited by ullage amount on Wednesday 11th of October 2023 06:52:31 PM

Yes, I did well. Good luck to all of you and be safe!

brooklynbacon · Guru

ullage amount wrote:
Everything is realistic if they gonna increase headcount for captains.

Thats not happening. We will never get to the level of po, sgt, etc where we need to be. And its still this bad with an ex cop as our mayor. This job has become do more with less and that is not changing.

warnedANDadmonished · Member

Does anyone know where we can actually read the current contract in full? Is it posted anywhere in the department?

Truthseeker · Guru

www.nyc.gov/site/olr/labor/labor-recent-agreements.page

It isnt on there yet bc its not voted on yet. But that will be place to read entire contract

DetailBoss · Member

When do the 10/12 hour tours start for Captains?

Truthseeker · Guru

It doesnt. Contract allowed for discussion of itnot specifically start of it. Who knows if it actually happen