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Res123 · Veteran Member

Do you guys think they will really curve our exam?

bben4567 · Veteran Member

Well spoken brother. Just be patient man. Summers coming try to enjoy some family time and freedom. My last summer was shot living and breathing the patrol guide. I got a 73 raw not the best but it is what it is. I wish the best of luck to everyone here and hope this list drops ASAP. As far as sergeant goes From what im hearing the rank blows with the amount of liability you pick up and dealing with cops that can be careless or have no regard for you. Gotta enjoy the good part of the subordinate ranks as well. Lets see what the future brings.

Eagle · Member

Jopagocks wrote:
There will be no curve.

Not on FOIL list? Not getting promoted.

This

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

SGTBS wrote:
DRPapi1983 wrote:
Exam will be curved all. Settle down. The end is near.
I'm respecting the guidelines and going to ask DRPapi1983 if you even know what a curve is. You're giving hope to people who are praying that a 65 will make the list. there are 3 examples of curves that are used.

1. A Flat scale curve.
2. A Bell Curve.
3. Linear Scale Grading Curve.

I found this online because i have no clue how to grade a curve and what method DCAS will be using. You got so many UMOS on edge because they believe in your info. I think that you should respect the guidelines and stop lying to fellow cops.

The curve applied to the 2017 Sgt Exam was a flat 0.231 points extra for every question you got wrong.

This Exam will definitely be curved. There's no telling how much extra they will give though.

tacticaltest29 · Member

No make up test takers didnt get their scores immediately maybe in a week

3testwonder · Senior Member

Is the .231 curve utilized for all exams now? If you know

BearHag · Newbie

The make up takers did get their raw scores immediately.

-- Edited by BearHag on Friday 7th of April 2023 01:49:53 AM

SGTBS · Veteran Member

NauseousPBBN wrote:
SGTBS wrote:
DRPapi1983 wrote:
Exam will be curved all. Settle down. The end is near.
I'm respecting the guidelines and going to ask DRPapi1983 if you even know what a curve is. You're giving hope to people who are praying that a 65 will make the list. there are 3 examples of curves that are used.

1. A Flat scale curve.
2. A Bell Curve.
3. Linear Scale Grading Curve.

I found this online because i have no clue how to grade a curve and what method DCAS will be using. You got so many UMOS on edge because they believe in your info. I think that you should respect the guidelines and stop lying to fellow cops.

The curve applied to the 2017 Sgt Exam was a flat 0.231 points extra for every question you got wrong.
This Exam will definitely be curved. There's no telling how much extra they will give though.

I found this in the 2016 Sgt exam forum by eze

eze wrote:

Thanks to our sources we have some answers in regard to your sergeant exam.

It seems that DCAS decided to scale your exam. Scaling is done whenever there are exams with multiple versions; it allows for fairness whenever one version is deemed harder or easier than a comparison exam. In your case the test was scaled up.

Each question you got right was worth 1 point, however, for each question you got wrong you were only deducted .769 points. Attached you'll find a formula showing what your raw score was (pre-scaling) and what your final score should be (prior to adding points/medals)

For those of you who remember what your raw score was pls IM me to confirm this further.

Ed

-- Edited by eze on Saturday 24th of March 2018 11:10:41 PM

-- Edited by SGTBS on Friday 7th of April 2023 05:26:13 AM

Jopagocks · Veteran Member

SGTBS wrote:
NauseousPBBN wrote:
SGTBS wrote:
DRPapi1983 wrote:
Exam will be curved all. Settle down. The end is near.
I'm respecting the guidelines and going to ask DRPapi1983 if you even know what a curve is. You're giving hope to people who are praying that a 65 will make the list. there are 3 examples of curves that are used.

1. A Flat scale curve.
2. A Bell Curve.
3. Linear Scale Grading Curve.

I found this online because i have no clue how to grade a curve and what method DCAS will be using. You got so many UMOS on edge because they believe in your info. I think that you should respect the guidelines and stop lying to fellow cops.

The curve applied to the 2017 Sgt Exam was a flat 0.231 points extra for every question you got wrong.
This Exam will definitely be curved. There's no telling how much extra they will give though.

I found this in the 2016 Sgt exam forum by eze

eze wrote:
Thanks to our sources we have some answers in regard to your sergeant exam.

It seems that DCAS decided to scale your exam. Scaling is done whenever there are exams with multiple versions; it allows for fairness whenever one version is deemed harder or easier than a comparison exam. In your case the test was scaled up.

Each question you got right was worth 1 point, however, for each question you got wrong you were only deducted .769 points. Attached you'll find a formula showing what your raw score was (pre-scaling) and what your final score should be (prior to adding points/medals)

For those of you who remember what your raw score was pls IM me to confirm this further.

Ed

-- Edited by eze on Saturday 24th of March 2018 11:10:41 PM

-- Edited by SGTBS on Friday 7th of April 2023 05:26:13 AM

And that got the list to 2600 names. Were already at around 2400 names from the FOIL.

No FOIL, no promotion

bben4567 · Veteran Member

you might be right

Semp1 · Guru

Curve or not. If the list is huge it means nothing. You can only realistically promote so many people. If the vacancies arent there. Theyre not there. After they fill them thats it.

-- Edited by Semp1 on Friday 14th of April 2023 03:51:15 PM

Broccoli · Veteran Member

555 vacancies means 20 percent of your list will already have a spot day 1....

Thecolikesmen · Member

Good source told me curve is a yes. 62 will be the passing score . Take it for what it is worth. I am confident this is factual information. List will be similar In size to the previous sgt exam and they believe everyone on the list will not make it due to the sheer sz of the list.

Pelcha · Senior Member

Thats what they said back in 2018 when the 2017 exam list was established!! not everyone was going to making it !! Cops are soo dumb that they spread COVID saved many from that list. COVID did not save anyone , 2017 exam was a huge list and they all were going to make it regardless of COVID. This list will be similar and everyone will make it !!!

Almonte19 · Veteran Member

62 with throwouts? Or without the throwouts?

Jopagocks · Veteran Member

No FOIL. No promotion

Thecolikesmen · Member

Idk. Just relaying something I was told

Thecolikesmen · Member

dont get mad then the list comes out and the dudes with time on that originally failed are on the list.

3testwonder · Senior Member

Can your source verify if same occur for Lt exam?

Passit100 · Senior Member

Thecolikesmen wrote:
Good source told me curve is a yes. 62 will be the passing score . Take it for what it is worth. I am confident this is factual information. List will be similar In size to the previous sgt exam and they believe everyone on the list will not make it due to the sheer sz of the list.

62 with throwouts?? Or by itself ?? I guess 61 might not make it??

I rise · Senior Member

Everyone will make it they said that the last time

Swayyzeee · Veteran Member

The last time a list was killed was in 2006. No one is dying on any lists. If youre on it, youre getting promoted. Will it take a while? Yes.

Passit100 · Senior Member

Swayyzeee wrote:
The last time a list was killed was in 2006. No one is dying on any lists. If youre on it, youre getting promoted. Will it take a while? Yes.

Faccctsss!!!!!

watcher5 · Senior Member

Do you guys think a 61 will make it? Right now leaning no. But not sure at all.

Shrek_Bog_Guadian · Member

If 2017 taught us anything, its that it depends on who else got a 61.

Jopagocks · Veteran Member

No FOIL..

No promotion

watcher5 · Senior Member

Hey I got a 61 and Im pretty nervous about making the cut on this one. Does anyone have any information as to whether a 61 will be a passing score on this exam and more importantly do you think everyone on this list will make the cut? I really want to be in a great position once this list comes out. Thanks!

3testwonder · Senior Member

Follow the curve chart. You should be good

Codgreen · Member

No body knows if you'll be made when you're at the bottom of the list. Typically list cuts after 4 years and with a big list it is unlikely.

Even if you do make the list you have to be high enough to be made within the 4 years to be safe.

Don't put all your hopes into passing, accept you have failed and if you do make it, accept you may never be made unless you have above 2000ish rank. If you made make it due to all the unknowns, than be happy about it, but I would not living your life hoping that miracles happen.

Passit100 · Senior Member

watcher5 wrote:
Hey I got a 61 and Im pretty nervous about making the cut on this one. Does anyone have any information as to whether a 61 will be a passing score on this exam and more importantly do you think everyone on this list will make the cut? I really want to be in a great position once this list comes out. Thanks!

I got a 61 as well ...don't worry we will be ok

watcher5 · Senior Member

Will a 61 be at the bottom of the list though?

Nypdnypd3100 · Senior Member

Yea. 61 will be pretty far down .

Papi825 · Senior Member

I would assume so, thats pretty much borderline making the cut.

Res123 · Veteran Member

Concur with Codgreen.

As Ive said to other users on this forum, specifically Dr Papi, I personally find it pretty messed up to tell someone with a failing score that they will definitely make the cut. It could set several people up for a huge disappointment, based on you knowing nothing. I heard from a guy who heard from a guy who read in his group chat, isnt solid Intel. Reality is you dont know, and anyone that does- sure isnt posting in this forum. Im not saying there wont be a curve, Im just saying I think we should all hold off on making bold statements when you dont know anything.

The only solid Intel we really have comes from @KeyCapt. He was right about several topics from the very start of studying including no inbasket, test dates, location, etc. He recently said around May, so lets hope thats true.

Until then, be safe and stay out of trouble.

Passit100 · Senior Member

Res123 wrote:
Concur with Codgreen.

As Ive said to other users on this forum, specifically Dr Papi, I personally find it pretty messed up to tell someone with a failing score that they will definitely make the cut. It could set several people up for a huge disappointment, based on you knowing nothing. I heard from a guy who heard from a guy who read in his group chat, isnt solid Intel. Reality is you dont know, and anyone that does- sure isnt posting in this forum. Im not saying there wont be a curve, Im just saying I think we should all hold off on making bold statements when you dont know anything.

The only solid Intel we really have comes from @KeyCapt. He was right about several topics from the very start of studying including no inbasket, test dates, location, etc. He recently said around May, so lets hope thats true.

Until then, be safe and stay out of trouble.

Thanks for this. But at the same time it's OK TO GIVE positive thoughts and statements to those who are either sad depressed or hopeless if they failed this exam. I believe a positive thought turns into a physical manifestation. Negativity only brings misery and more possible depression to those who are already depressed. We have enuff stress on this job to deal with but something as important as this will help.uplift many.

Res123 · Veteran Member

@Passit100 Of course, I recognize and agree we have enough negativity and bad vibes on the job, with the public, media etc..

I'm just making the point there is a clear distiniction between being positive and hopeful, and promising people who failed and are so desperatley hoping they make the cut, that they will, when we really dont know.

I'm not 100% sure on this number but I beleive per the FOIL list (which already includes throw outs) there are already approx 2500+ passers. Dipping down and curving to the low 60s is a bold prediction.

My hope for everyone who studied hard and did it the RIGHT WAY, is that they pass and get promoted.

Reality is we don't know if/what will happen. Lets hope we find out soon. Be safe.

5yearSGT · Member

You guys are chatting about a whole bunch of nothing. If you dont have any reliable intel, do us all a favor and keep quiet.

Papi825 · Senior Member

Res123 wrote:
Concur with Codgreen.

As Ive said to other users on this forum, specifically Dr Papi, I personally find it pretty messed up to tell someone with a failing score that they will definitely make the cut. It could set several people up for a huge disappointment, based on you knowing nothing. I heard from a guy who heard from a guy who read in his group chat, isnt solid Intel. Reality is you dont know, and anyone that does- sure isnt posting in this forum. Im not saying there wont be a curve, Im just saying I think we should all hold off on making bold statements when you dont know anything.

The only solid Intel we really have comes from @KeyCapt. He was right about several topics from the very start of studying including no inbasket, test dates, location, etc. He recently said around May, so lets hope thats true.

Until then, be safe and stay out of trouble.

Completely agree!! Well said.

Passit100 · Senior Member

Res123 wrote:
@Passit100 Of course, I recognize and agree we have enough negativity and bad vibes on the job, with the public, media etc..

I'm just making the point there is a clear distiniction between being positive and hopeful, and promising people who failed and are so desperatley hoping they make the cut, that they will, when we really dont know.

I'm not 100% sure on this number but I beleive per the FOIL list (which already includes throw outs) there are already approx 2500+ passers. Dipping down and curving to the low 60s is a bold prediction.

My hope for everyone who studied hard and did it the RIGHT WAY, is that they pass and get promoted.

Reality is we don't know if/what will happen. Lets hope we find out soon. Be safe.

I pray for all of us to make it because I know we all worked very hard you stay safe as well

DRPapi1983 · Guru

EXAM WILL BE CURVED

DetectorEfector · Member

Dr. Peppers intel will be 100% curved from the truth. Legit confirmed. My source has a uncles cousin who told him

Pelcha · Senior Member

When bro? Were at the end of April! May?

Jopagocks · Veteran Member

Res123 wrote:
@Passit100 Of course, I recognize and agree we have enough negativity and bad vibes on the job, with the public, media etc..

I'm just making the point there is a clear distiniction between being positive and hopeful, and promising people who failed and are so desperatley hoping they make the cut, that they will, when we really dont know.

I'm not 100% sure on this number but I beleive per the FOIL list (which already includes throw outs) there are already approx 2500+ passers. Dipping down and curving to the low 60s is a bold prediction.

My hope for everyone who studied hard and did it the RIGHT WAY, is that they pass and get promoted.

Reality is we don't know if/what will happen. Lets hope we find out soon. Be safe.

No FOIL. No promotion

2500 already make up a list. More than enough.

watcher5 · Senior Member

Jopagocks wrote:
Res123 wrote:
@Passit100 Of course, I recognize and agree we have enough negativity and bad vibes on the job, with the public, media etc..

I'm just making the point there is a clear distiniction between being positive and hopeful, and promising people who failed and are so desperatley hoping they make the cut, that they will, when we really dont know.

I'm not 100% sure on this number but I beleive per the FOIL list (which already includes throw outs) there are already approx 2500+ passers. Dipping down and curving to the low 60s is a bold prediction.

My hope for everyone who studied hard and did it the RIGHT WAY, is that they pass and get promoted.

Reality is we don't know if/what will happen. Lets hope we find out soon. Be safe.
No FOIL. No promotion

2500 already make up a list. More than enough.

I dont know how this can be true.

Passit100 · Senior Member

Jopagocks wrote:
Res123 wrote:
@Passit100 Of course, I recognize and agree we have enough negativity and bad vibes on the job, with the public, media etc..

I'm just making the point there is a clear distiniction between being positive and hopeful, and promising people who failed and are so desperatley hoping they make the cut, that they will, when we really dont know.

I'm not 100% sure on this number but I beleive per the FOIL list (which already includes throw outs) there are already approx 2500+ passers. Dipping down and curving to the low 60s is a bold prediction.

My hope for everyone who studied hard and did it the RIGHT WAY, is that they pass and get promoted.

Reality is we don't know if/what will happen. Lets hope we find out soon. Be safe.
No FOIL. No promotion

2500 already make up a list. More than enough.

Remember not all 2500 on that list are not even on this job anymore. Plus One of the cops on that list passed away . I'm sure that number is preliminary. It's NOT final. With all these sgts either retiring leaving getting demoted or promoted...2500 isn't FINAL nor is it enough.

watcher5 · Senior Member

Passit100 wrote:
Jopagocks wrote:
Res123 wrote:
@Passit100 Of course, I recognize and agree we have enough negativity and bad vibes on the job, with the public, media etc..

I'm just making the point there is a clear distiniction between being positive and hopeful, and promising people who failed and are so desperatley hoping they make the cut, that they will, when we really dont know.

I'm not 100% sure on this number but I beleive per the FOIL list (which already includes throw outs) there are already approx 2500+ passers. Dipping down and curving to the low 60s is a bold prediction.

My hope for everyone who studied hard and did it the RIGHT WAY, is that they pass and get promoted.

Reality is we don't know if/what will happen. Lets hope we find out soon. Be safe.
No FOIL. No promotion

2500 already make up a list. More than enough.
Remember not all 2500 on that list are not even on this job anymore. Plus One of the cops on that list passed away . I'm sure that number is preliminary. It's NOT final. With all these sgts either retiring leaving getting demoted or promoted...2500 isn't FINAL nor is it enough.

Lol dude most are still on the job. I got a 61 and highly doubt my name is on that list.

Papi825 · Senior Member

Passit100 wrote:
Jopagocks wrote:
Res123 wrote:
@Passit100 Of course, I recognize and agree we have enough negativity and bad vibes on the job, with the public, media etc..

I'm just making the point there is a clear distiniction between being positive and hopeful, and promising people who failed and are so desperatley hoping they make the cut, that they will, when we really dont know.

I'm not 100% sure on this number but I beleive per the FOIL list (which already includes throw outs) there are already approx 2500+ passers. Dipping down and curving to the low 60s is a bold prediction.

My hope for everyone who studied hard and did it the RIGHT WAY, is that they pass and get promoted.

Reality is we don't know if/what will happen. Lets hope we find out soon. Be safe.
No FOIL. No promotion

2500 already make up a list. More than enough.
Remember not all 2500 on that list are not even on this job anymore. Plus One of the cops on that list passed away . I'm sure that number is preliminary. It's NOT final. With all these sgts either retiring leaving getting demoted or promoted...2500 isn't FINAL nor is it enough.

Bro, 2500 is more than enough for a Sgt list lmao

watcher5 · Senior Member

Any new info about the list? Will a 61 make it?

Res123 · Veteran Member

Yeah a 61 should be in the first class

Bro no one knows yet..

Maybe it will be curved, maybe it wont

Weve been talking in circles here

Hopefully the list is out soon @KeyCapt mentioned around May and his Intel has proven to be correct time and time again.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

List will be out soon. You all will be surprised. Please dont shoot the messenger.