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crossingmyfingers · Veteran Member

LT Exam Scores

TheBlackCloud · Senior Member

Whats a typical amount of throw out questions

TenFour16 · Guru

Nowadays throwouts arent even relevant. Its more about how big the job wants a list to be and they curve it accordingly. From what im seeing so far the pass rate is low on this one. My command has 0 passers and half took the exam today (day 1). Insane.

Ucon4real · Veteran Member

I was very fortunate to get a 75. Very challenging Rising star type questions coupled with bad grammar. George from The Key, just stated on Facebook, that each session will have a different exam. Hes been on the money as of late so lets see.

nycop80 · Guru

Of course its a diff exam, but the content of the question subject will be from same area.

kaki1723 · Veteran Member

This test was very very hard. Congratulations to those that passed. You passed a very difficult and tricky exam.

Sosmoney1134 · Veteran Member

Trolling early I see lol

DRPapi1983 · Guru

kaki1723 wrote:
This test was very very hard. Congratulations to those that passed. You passed a very difficult and tricky exam.

Please respect the guidelines and do not comment on exam. People are still taking it. Have some consideration for your colleagues. Thank you!

HopeBoss · Senior Member

DRPapi1983 wrote:
kaki1723 wrote:
This test was very very hard. Congratulations to those that passed. You passed a very difficult and tricky exam.
Please respect the guidelines and do not comment on exam. People are still taking it. Have some consideration for your colleagues. Thank you!

I dont understand why we cant say the exam was hard or easy ? Makes no difference

Swayyzeee · Veteran Member

DRPapi1983 wrote:
kaki1723 wrote:
This test was very very hard. Congratulations to those that passed. You passed a very difficult and tricky exam.
Please respect the guidelines and do not comment on exam. People are still taking it. Have some consideration for your colleagues. Thank you!

Easy doctor. No one is giving up any details of the exam. Merely saying it was hard, tricky, fair, unfair etc. Is whats expected my friend.

Xchris176 · Senior Member

Zenthan88 wrote:
Hopefully they throw a curve and people close enough can squeeze through

Pretty sure theyll curve or drop question just how they did with the sgt and Capt exam

Xchris176 · Senior Member

HopeBoss wrote:
DRPapi1983 wrote:
kaki1723 wrote:
This test was very very hard. Congratulations to those that passed. You passed a very difficult and tricky exam.
Please respect the guidelines and do not comment on exam. People are still taking it. Have some consideration for your colleagues. Thank you!
I dont understand why we cant say the exam was hard or easy ? Makes no difference

DRpapi is just on a frozen loo, disregard his message 91 it

HopeBoss · Senior Member

Xchris176 wrote:
Zenthan88 wrote:
Hopefully they throw a curve and people close enough can squeeze through
Pretty sure theyll curve or drop question just how they did with the sgt and Capt exam

We dont know yet if the sgt exam will be curved. Very little info is known about it at this point

TransitCop · Senior Member

Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working

Zenthan88 · Veteran Member

LOL, thatll be ideal

watcher5 · Senior Member

TransitCop wrote:
Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working

-- Edited by watcher5 on Tuesday 1st of August 2023 12:47:52 PM

nycop80 · Guru

watcher5 wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working
Agreed. Lol no way am I staying in this department with this every 5 year thing. Doing everything right and not having a chance at being a Lt until year 13 or 14? F that lol.

Because having experience at being a supervisor means nothing ? Its very unfortunate how some people get promoted from inside gigs or have low experience and really have no clue how precinct operations work on a day to day basis and refuse to adapt.

Papi825 · Senior Member

TransitCop wrote:
Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working

Agree, its messing everything up tbh. These curves are literally the worst thing the job has done with the promotional exams. These higher ups benefited from taking exams often and moving up the ranks swiftly. Failing an exam back in the day wasnt as catastrophic as it is now. These exams dont come 1-3 years anymore smh.

Papi825 · Senior Member

nycop80 wrote:
watcher5 wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working
Agreed. Lol no way am I staying in this department with this every 5 year thing. Doing everything right and not having a chance at being a Lt until year 13 or 14? F that lol.
Because having experience at being a supervisor means nothing ? Its very unfortunate how some people get promoted from inside gigs or have low experience and really have no clue how precinct operations work on a day to day basis and refuse to adapt.

I understand your point and its a valid one. But these guys before us were able to benefit from those swift promotions, hence making them more money through out their careers. This is a job at the end of the day, some of us want to make the most out of our career. I feel like those opportunities have been taken away from us.

TransitCop · Senior Member

nycop80 wrote:
watcher5 wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working
Agreed. Lol no way am I staying in this department with this every 5 year thing. Doing everything right and not having a chance at being a Lt until year 13 or 14? F that lol.
Because having experience at being a supervisor means nothing ? Its very unfortunate how some people get promoted from inside gigs or have low experience and really have no clue how precinct operations work on a day to day basis and refuse to adapt.

Those people never stay on patrol long anyway and make it back to their house mouse gigs. Whats pissing me off the most is only having 3 chances in my career to take the promotional test. I put in 2 hours every day for 6 months but I guess the pressure got to me on the test day.

brooklynbacon · Guru

Papi825 wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working
Agree, its messing everything up tbh. These curves are literally the worst thing the job has done with the promotional exams. These higher ups benefited from taking exams often and moving up the ranks swiftly. Failing an exam back in the day wasnt as catastrophic as it is now. These exams dont come 1-3 years anymore smh.

The job cant handle yearly exams anymore as theres not enough personnel. My command had to hold like six cops a tour on overtime for the last Sgts exam. The job wants a four year list.

brooklynbacon · Guru

TransitCop wrote:
nycop80 wrote:
watcher5 wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working
Agreed. Lol no way am I staying in this department with this every 5 year thing. Doing everything right and not having a chance at being a Lt until year 13 or 14? F that lol.
Because having experience at being a supervisor means nothing ? Its very unfortunate how some people get promoted from inside gigs or have low experience and really have no clue how precinct operations work on a day to day basis and refuse to adapt.
Those people never stay on patrol long anyway and make it back to their house mouse gigs. Whats pissing me off the most is only having 3 chances in my career to take the promotional test. I put in 2 hours every day for 6 months but I guess the pressure got to me on the test day.

2 hours a day is good for the beginning and middle. 2 hours a day is not enough in the final stretch. The exams get exponentially harder as you go up in rank. The sgts and lts exams are pretty much jokes compared to the capts exam.

crossingmyfingers · Veteran Member

TransitCop wrote:
nycop80 wrote:
watcher5 wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working
Agreed. Lol no way am I staying in this department with this every 5 year thing. Doing everything right and not having a chance at being a Lt until year 13 or 14? F that lol.
Because having experience at being a supervisor means nothing ? Its very unfortunate how some people get promoted from inside gigs or have low experience and really have no clue how precinct operations work on a day to day basis and refuse to adapt.
Those people never stay on patrol long anyway and make it back to their house mouse gigs. Whats pissing me off the most is only having 3 chances in my career to take the promotional test. I put in 2 hours every day for 6 months but I guess the pressure got to me on the test day.

thats why you have to make the most of these chances.. I lived, breathed, and tasted the patrol guide every free minute I had and Im on patrol and I have two kids ... hard work does pay off.. these tests you have to really put in the time and understand the guide

tweezy · Senior Member

brooklynbacon wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
nycop80 wrote:
watcher5 wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working
Agreed. Lol no way am I staying in this department with this every 5 year thing. Doing everything right and not having a chance at being a Lt until year 13 or 14? F that lol.
Because having experience at being a supervisor means nothing ? Its very unfortunate how some people get promoted from inside gigs or have low experience and really have no clue how precinct operations work on a day to day basis and refuse to adapt.
Those people never stay on patrol long anyway and make it back to their house mouse gigs. Whats pissing me off the most is only having 3 chances in my career to take the promotional test. I put in 2 hours every day for 6 months but I guess the pressure got to me on the test day.
2 hours a day is good for the beginning and middle. 2 hours a day is not enough in the final stretch. The exams get exponentially harder as you go up in rank. The sgts and lts exams are pretty much jokes compared to the capts exam.

could not have said it any better!! Preach

HopeBoss · Senior Member

brooklynbacon wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
nycop80 wrote:
watcher5 wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working
Agreed. Lol no way am I staying in this department with this every 5 year thing. Doing everything right and not having a chance at being a Lt until year 13 or 14? F that lol.
Because having experience at being a supervisor means nothing ? Its very unfortunate how some people get promoted from inside gigs or have low experience and really have no clue how precinct operations work on a day to day basis and refuse to adapt.
Those people never stay on patrol long anyway and make it back to their house mouse gigs. Whats pissing me off the most is only having 3 chances in my career to take the promotional test. I put in 2 hours every day for 6 months but I guess the pressure got to me on the test day.
2 hours a day is good for the beginning and middle. 2 hours a day is not enough in the final stretch. The exams get exponentially harder as you go up in rank. The sgts and lts exams are pretty much jokes compared to the capts exam.

If you even want to be a Capt today. Most Lts were very lackadaisical about taking it

Futureauxiliary · Guru

Compared to the sgts exam which i took with pretty lax studying. For this Lt exam, I definitely put in triple the work. Seeing the grades that everyone have been getting (of course people who have studied). Im starting to think this list wont be a big one.

Zenthan88 · Veteran Member

Youre right, honestly a small list will benefit everyone in general. Think about it, everyone on the list will get made quick and the next exam will be in 1-2 years as opposed to 4-5 year.

Bikelife · Member

What are the chances of making the list with a 66?

Futureauxiliary · Guru

Bikelife wrote:
What are the chances of making the list with a 66?

I think after throwaways 65+ will be good. But wtf do i know.

Copper · Senior Member

i concur lol

-- Edited by Copper on Friday 24th of March 2023 02:50:49 PM

kaki1723 · Veteran Member

I gave up the whole exam Sorry everyone

HopeBoss · Senior Member

Futureauxiliary wrote:
Compared to the sgts exam which i took with pretty lax studying. For this Lt exam, I definitely put in triple the work. Seeing the grades that everyone have been getting (of course people who have studied). Im starting to think this list wont be a big one.

Define lax studying ?

TransitCop · Senior Member

brooklynbacon wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
nycop80 wrote:
watcher5 wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working
Agreed. Lol no way am I staying in this department with this every 5 year thing. Doing everything right and not having a chance at being a Lt until year 13 or 14? F that lol.
Because having experience at being a supervisor means nothing ? Its very unfortunate how some people get promoted from inside gigs or have low experience and really have no clue how precinct operations work on a day to day basis and refuse to adapt.
Those people never stay on patrol long anyway and make it back to their house mouse gigs. Whats pissing me off the most is only having 3 chances in my career to take the promotional test. I put in 2 hours every day for 6 months but I guess the pressure got to me on the test day.
2 hours a day is good for the beginning and middle. 2 hours a day is not enough in the final stretch. The exams get exponentially harder as you go up in rank. The sgts and lts exams are pretty much jokes compared to the capts exam.

I have no desire to be a captain. 2 hours is all the productive time my brain can take studying this dry material thats useless off the job. I know all the important procedures but pardon me if I didnt memorize colors of licenses.

JediMaster · Member

Bikelife wrote:
What are the chances of making the list with a 66?

Very Strong.

you must fight for your points at the protest session.

dont listen to clowns in this site. 65 - 69 is 99% safe.

These exams have been riddled with poorly worded questions and/or double answers.

all you Need is 1 person to make a Valid Argument identifiable on the PG and site the real answer or reason why its a poorly worded question and EVERYONE gets the point.

safe your materials - be sure to attend the protest session and FIGHT FOR YOUR POINTS!

no one will do it for you. You are still in the battle. Dont give up. find an exam in the recent years that did NOT have 3-9 protested successful questions which added several points to ALL exams.

protest session, take it serious. You will be fine.

brooklynbacon · Guru

TransitCop wrote:
brooklynbacon wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
nycop80 wrote:
watcher5 wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working
Agreed. Lol no way am I staying in this department with this every 5 year thing. Doing everything right and not having a chance at being a Lt until year 13 or 14? F that lol.
Because having experience at being a supervisor means nothing ? Its very unfortunate how some people get promoted from inside gigs or have low experience and really have no clue how precinct operations work on a day to day basis and refuse to adapt.
Those people never stay on patrol long anyway and make it back to their house mouse gigs. Whats pissing me off the most is only having 3 chances in my career to take the promotional test. I put in 2 hours every day for 6 months but I guess the pressure got to me on the test day.
2 hours a day is good for the beginning and middle. 2 hours a day is not enough in the final stretch. The exams get exponentially harder as you go up in rank. The sgts and lts exams are pretty much jokes compared to the capts exam.
I have no desire to be a captain. 2 hours is all the productive time my brain can take studying this dry material thats useless off the job. I know all the important procedures but pardon me if I didnt memorize colors of licenses.

Well you just explained why you didnt pass. No one likes reading this material. But 2 hours is not enough to pass.

brooklynbacon · Guru

Zenthan88 wrote:
Youre right, honestly a small list will benefit everyone in general. Think about it, everyone on the list will get made quick and the next exam will be in 1-2 years as opposed to 4-5 year.

The job will curve this exam to get 1000 people on it or however many they want.

crossingmyfingers · Veteran Member

TransitCop wrote:
brooklynbacon wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
nycop80 wrote:
watcher5 wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working
Agreed. Lol no way am I staying in this department with this every 5 year thing. Doing everything right and not having a chance at being a Lt until year 13 or 14? F that lol.
Because having experience at being a supervisor means nothing ? Its very unfortunate how some people get promoted from inside gigs or have low experience and really have no clue how precinct operations work on a day to day basis and refuse to adapt.
Those people never stay on patrol long anyway and make it back to their house mouse gigs. Whats pissing me off the most is only having 3 chances in my career to take the promotional test. I put in 2 hours every day for 6 months but I guess the pressure got to me on the test day.
2 hours a day is good for the beginning and middle. 2 hours a day is not enough in the final stretch. The exams get exponentially harder as you go up in rank. The sgts and lts exams are pretty much jokes compared to the capts exam.
I have no desire to be a captain. 2 hours is all the productive time my brain can take studying this dry material thats useless off the job. I know all the important procedures but pardon me if I didnt memorize colors of licenses.

You didnt need the memorize the color of you knew the other part but yeah 2 hours a day is definitely not enough, nor if you just studied the packets..

TransitCop · Senior Member

Im just going to do PG next time exclusively. To all the geniuses here congrats and dont be a dik on patrol.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

You have to put in the time. Study hard and you will see the results.

TransitCop · Senior Member

DRPapi1983 wrote:
You have to put in the time. Study hard and you will see the results.

Even if I did double the work I still would not have passed because packets alone did not cover some of the test. In basket would have been great since I do great on that.

Futureauxiliary · Guru

We should start a PROTEST thread when everyone takes the exam (military and make up exam). To gauge what questions we will be protesting.

TransitCop · Senior Member

Futureauxiliary wrote:
We should start a PROTEST thread when everyone takes the exam (military and make up exam). To gauge what questions we will be protesting.

Great idea. Start it tomorrow after everyone has a chance to take this exam.

Futureauxiliary · Guru

TransitCop wrote:
Futureauxiliary wrote:
We should start a PROTEST thread when everyone takes the exam (military and make up exam). To gauge what questions we will be protesting.
Great idea. Start it tomorrow after everyone has a chance to take this exam.

I don't think thats a good idea as of yet. We should wait for military and make ups to take the exam.

3testwonder · Senior Member

I smell a lotttt of throwouts

DRPapi1983 · Guru

TransitCop wrote:
DRPapi1983 wrote:
You have to put in the time. Study hard and you will see the results.
Even if I did double the work I still would not have passed because packets alone did not cover some of the test. In basket would have been great since I do great on that.

gotcha

FranknBeans · Senior Member

crossingmyfingers wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
nycop80 wrote:
watcher5 wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
Forget the curve just give another exam in 2 years. This once every 5 years isnt working
Agreed. Lol no way am I staying in this department with this every 5 year thing. Doing everything right and not having a chance at being a Lt until year 13 or 14? F that lol.
Because having experience at being a supervisor means nothing ? Its very unfortunate how some people get promoted from inside gigs or have low experience and really have no clue how precinct operations work on a day to day basis and refuse to adapt.
Those people never stay on patrol long anyway and make it back to their house mouse gigs. Whats pissing me off the most is only having 3 chances in my career to take the promotional test. I put in 2 hours every day for 6 months but I guess the pressure got to me on the test day.
thats why you have to make the most of these chances.. I lived, breathed, and tasted the patrol guide every free minute I had and Im on patrol and I have two kids ... hard work does pay off.. these tests you have to really put in the time and understand the guide

Unfortunately sometimes putting in the work means scamming every

Possible chance you get to study. Hence how some people can put in 10 hours a day, cause they go sick or are MIA when full duty. Unfortunate but that's how it is.

TransitCop · Senior Member

Funny thing is those people still didnt pass from my command

HopeBoss · Senior Member

TransitCop wrote:
DRPapi1983 wrote:
You have to put in the time. Study hard and you will see the results.
Even if I did double the work I still would not have passed because packets alone did not cover some of the test. In basket would have been great since I do great on that.

I mean I just studied mikes packets and got an 85 on the sgt test. Every pg and ag procedure tested was in there somewhere. only thing that caught be off guard were the penal law questions

TransitCop · Senior Member

HopeBoss wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
DRPapi1983 wrote:
You have to put in the time. Study hard and you will see the results.
Even if I did double the work I still would not have passed because packets alone did not cover some of the test. In basket would have been great since I do great on that.
I mean I just studied mikes packets and got an 85 on the sgt test. Every pg and ag procedure tested was in there somewhere. only thing that caught be off guard were the penal law questions

What about LT exam? Sgt exam was easier and I did way less work got high 70s

tweezy · Senior Member

HopeBoss wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
DRPapi1983 wrote:
You have to put in the time. Study hard and you will see the results.
Even if I did double the work I still would not have passed because packets alone did not cover some of the test. In basket would have been great since I do great on that.
I mean I just studied mikes packets and got an 85 on the sgt test. Every pg and ag procedure tested was in there somewhere. only thing that caught be off guard were the penal law questions

Yeah, you cant get away with that studying for lieutenant or captain or prob any test now a days