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Jopagocks · Veteran Member

YOUR SGT EXAM DATA

dc88rs · Veteran Member

Jopagocks wrote:
These names will be the the list. Ive heard of a few others who didnt pass, and are on this list. If youre not on it, you wont get promoted. Thats the most logical sense. Everyone took the test, they added throw outs, created a list of names who passed with a raw score of 70 and above (with throw outs included), and thatll be the list.

I got a 66, and am not on the list that was put out this morning. I personally know two people who scored 69 and 67 and are on the list.

There are plenty of names on this list for promotion that the job wont have to add more.

I think theyll implement some sort of curve to make the list a little bigger then it is currentl. not a huge one. Maybe 5 points. itll get them to around the same size as the last list. it was what 2700? Thats it tho. We wont see no 15 pt curve.

Swayyzeee · Veteran Member

GR5 wrote:
Definitely not a curve. I got a 65 and am not on the list. Must be throw outs.

How is this possible? My partner got a 63 and she's on the list. Day 1 session 1. What were you?

skelgel · Senior Member

63!? no way. the lowest anyone has been hearing was 65. wow thats crazy.

I think the guys are right these people got lucky and picked up the throwouts. Obviously not everyone will get that lucky which is why some ppl passed that were on the cusp and others didnt

Passit100 · Senior Member

dc88rs wrote:
Jopagocks wrote:
These names will be the the list. Ive heard of a few others who didnt pass, and are on this list. If youre not on it, you wont get promoted. Thats the most logical sense. Everyone took the test, they added throw outs, created a list of names who passed with a raw score of 70 and above (with throw outs included), and thatll be the list.

I got a 66, and am not on the list that was put out this morning. I personally know two people who scored 69 and 67 and are on the list.

There are plenty of names on this list for promotion that the job wont have to add more.
I think theyll implement some sort of curve to make the list a little bigger then it is currentl. not a huge one. Maybe 5 points. itll get them to around the same size as the last list. it was what 2700? Thats it tho. We wont see no 15 pt curve.

Maybe a 10pt curve

Jopagocks · Veteran Member

Dont know about that. Seems steep.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Guess I was right after all !!!!!!!! MID-MARCH!!!!!! Congratulations to all and as always, please respect the guidelines.

dc88rs · Veteran Member

DRPapi1983 wrote:
Guess I was right after all !!!!!!!! MID-MARCH!!!!!! Congratulations to all and as always, please respect the guidelines.

No cmon lmao. Im a big supporter of yours but this wasnt the list and it was leaked by the key not put out by DCAS lololol

HopeBoss · Senior Member

DRPapi1983 wrote:
Guess I was right after all !!!!!!!! MID-MARCH!!!!!! Congratulations to all and as always, please respect the guidelines.

That was the list, that was a FOIL request by the key of just the people who passed. Youre a fraud !!!!

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Dont you EVER question my INTELL! The Doctor has spoken!

GR5 · Veteran Member

DRPapi1983 wrote:
Dont you EVER question my INTELL! The Doctor has spoken!

I thought you said it was going to be CURVED? And this list isnt an official release, its shared info from a foil request.

Jopagocks · Veteran Member

Technically not curved, but with throw outs.

Passit100 · Senior Member

DRPapi1983 wrote:
Dont you EVER question my INTELL! The Doctor has spoken!

Is a curve still coming?

watcher5 · Senior Member

Passit100 wrote:
DRPapi1983 wrote:
Dont you EVER question my INTELL! The Doctor has spoken!
Is a curve still coming?

-- Edited by watcher5 on Tuesday 1st of August 2023 12:27:16 PM

Gabagool · Member

From the looks of it seems like 5-6 throwouts that puts this raw list around 2400 give or take. Factor in about 100-200 people on that list already left the job, a curve of 3-5 points can very much be in play to put the official list at around 3k

skelgel · Senior Member

Passit100 wrote:
DRPapi1983 wrote:
Dont you EVER question my INTELL! The Doctor has spoken!
Is a curve still coming?

I hope u have toj because you are going to need it if there is a curve

nycop80 · Guru

Stop bashing Dr. Papi, the warning has been given.

countryroads · Senior Member

nycop80 wrote:
Stop bashing Dr. Papi, the warning has been given.

Not bashing him, I would like to simply point out that the official list from DCAS is NOT OUT ! The "list" floating around right now is just the FOIL data of who passed. No scores or rankings are listed.

tomSGT2022 · Veteran Member

I believe he means the May thing isnt accurate. Maybe first class sure, but not our list #s.

Im translating lol

Jopagocks · Veteran Member

countryroads wrote:
nycop80 wrote:
Stop bashing Dr. Papi, the warning has been given.
Not bashing him, I would like to simply point out that the official list from DCAS is NOT OUT ! The "list" floating around right now is just the FOIL data of who passed. No scores or rankings are listed.

Agreed. But, if you consider that some people whose raw score was under 70 is now on this list it can be assumed that there is a difference to those who scored close to 70 and arent on this list. So the list does mean something. If this list is those who passed, and youre not on it, you didnt pass.

it is what it is.

-- Edited by Jopagocks on Sunday 19th of March 2023 05:37:25 PM

Passit100 · Senior Member

On another note.....dcas better COMB through that list.....I'm sure there are ppl on there who either retired or resigned.

skelgel · Senior Member

Passit100 wrote:
On another note.....dcas better COMB through that list.....I'm sure there are ppl on there who either retired or resigned.

they will still make the list, they just get skipped over when their turn comes.

Hennigans404 · Veteran Member

Passit100 wrote:
On another note.....dcas better COMB through that list.....I'm sure there are ppl on there who either retired or resigned.

They will still be on list. If they retired or resigned within a year they are offered a chance to come back.

Peewee · Member

Passit100 wrote:
Papi825 wrote:
Passit100 wrote:
Papi825 wrote:
Hennigans404 wrote:
Passit100 wrote:
Papi825 wrote:
RamJamFlamSong wrote:
Glad to see the thread has been reopened. These numbers reflect a 23% passrate, rounded up. I doubt they would curve a test with such a high pass rate.

-- Edited by RamJamFlamSong on Saturday 18th of March 2023 04:43:34 PM
I hope not tbh
I hope they do like I said alot of ppl in the 60s put forward a huge effort with the expense of not spending time with their families or on their own personal lives. Let's please try to keep hope and positivity alive for those who are within that striking range.
There were a lot of people who passed who also sacrificed time with their families. There were also people who scored low 60s and high 50s who put no time into studying. Point is the line has to be drawn somewhere. Its not fair to a jr cop who barely passes and gets jumped by a guy who has all the extra points and scored a 58. Its possible not everyone gets made if their is a huge list. Where do you draw the line?
EXACTLY. I understand Passit is in a position where he would benefit greatly from a curve. But we have to be honest with ourselves and see things for what they are. Curving/scaling exams is not a good thing, and is not fair at all for those who actually got a passing score. You know how heartbreaking it would be to get a 71 on an exam, have hundreds if not thousand(s) of failures pass you and not make the cut because of it. Thats messed up, and if you think theres nothing wrong with that, idk what to tell you tbh.
Like I said in my previous post those of you who passed you are in great shape and you will not get jumped over I promise you that's not going to happen to you. I saw this first hand on the 2017 exam those who got curved did not jump over those who originally passed the test those who originally passed the test not only benefited from the curve but got promoted way faster than the ones who got curved after they failed
Its not about me, I got an 83. People will pass me of course, but not the people who failed, Ill be in a solid position regardless. Im taking about the principle of all this buffoonery. You cant make promises, because you dont know what will come out of all of this. At the end of the day its out of our control. We all have our own perspective and opinions on these things. Thats ok, good luck with everything tho bro
Exactly my point you got a 83 which is Awesome by the way the curve if implemented would put you close to a 90 somebody like me will not jump over you believe me LOL good luck to you too

If you have someone score a 69 and has 10 years otj and military.. and then another who scored 73 with 3 years otj, they would be passed up by the guy who originally failed.

West72 · Veteran Member

A little bit of hope, there are some names here that have already been made Sgts.
(The last big promotion of 150s) they didnt know their fate back in August so they all took it.
I noticed at least 3 names. Could be more.

RamJamFlamSong · Senior Member

Is that supposed to be a bad thing? I'll take the 10 year cop, military vet, as a supervisor any day of the week over some 5 year wonder.

Peewee · Member

RamJamFlamSong wrote:
Is that supposed to be a bad thing? I'll take the 10 year cop, military vet, as a supervisor any day of the week over some 5 year wonder.

No I was just replying to the comment that its not possible to be passed over if there was a curve.

Hennigans404 · Veteran Member

RamJamFlamSong wrote:
Is that supposed to be a bad thing? I'll take the 10 year cop, military vet, as a supervisor any day of the week over some 5 year wonder.

Not necessarily a bad thing when scores are close, but a guy who gets a 57 shouldnt be passing anyone..

-- Edited by Hennigans404 on Sunday 19th of March 2023 06:47:56 PM

Semp1 · Guru

This unofficial list that is out is not the raw list of 70 or higher. It includes people that picked up throw outs. Many people I know that got 68 or lower are on this list. What it doesnt include yet is a curve. So get ready for a 3500-4000 person list.

HopeBoss · Senior Member

KeyCapt wrote:
Results of the August 3rd and 4th administration of Sergeant Exam No. 2538
SESSION: TOTAL APPLICANTS: # WHO SCORED 70 OR ABOVE: PASSING RATE:
August 3 (AM) 2840 1078 38%
August 3 (PM) 2755 697 25%
August 4 (AM) 2150 108 5%
August 4 (PM) 2654 477 18%

THE ABOVE DATA IS 100% ACCURATE AND IS BEFORE ANY CURVE/CHANGES ARE MADE!!
When receiving this data I was also informed to expect a list sometime around MAY. (Of course subject to change)
#bestinthebusiness

If this is raw scores before anything, how can you explain people who got in the 60s making it on these lists ?

Hennigans404 · Veteran Member

HopeBoss wrote:
KeyCapt wrote:
Results of the August 3rd and 4th administration of Sergeant Exam No. 2538
SESSION: TOTAL APPLICANTS: # WHO SCORED 70 OR ABOVE: PASSING RATE:
August 3 (AM) 2840 1078 38%
August 3 (PM) 2755 697 25%
August 4 (AM) 2150 108 5%
August 4 (PM) 2654 477 18%

THE ABOVE DATA IS 100% ACCURATE AND IS BEFORE ANY CURVE/CHANGES ARE MADE!!
When receiving this data I was also informed to expect a list sometime around MAY. (Of course subject to change)
#bestinthebusiness
If this is raw scores before anything, how can you explain people who got in the 60s making it on these lists ?

From what people are saying raw score just means without any points such as military, medals, fitness, seniority, etc. Very confusing.

Hennigans404 · Veteran Member

Semp1 wrote:
This unofficial list that is out is not the raw list of 70 or higher. It includes people that picked up throw outs. Many people I know that got 68 or lower are on this list. What it doesnt include yet is a curve. So get ready for a 3500-4000 person list.

Sources?

sgtscottie · Member

Why would the test be curved if so many people passed ?

Papi825 · Senior Member

Swayyzeee wrote:
GR5 wrote:
Definitely not a curve. I got a 65 and am not on the list. Must be throw outs.
How is this possible? My partner got a 63 and she's on the list. Day 1 session 1. What were you?

Someone from my command got a 63, last session and is on the list.

Thechino · Veteran Member

Wasnt there military people who got high 50s and got the email verification? Unless they threw out 10 questions, this cant be whats final.

Semp1 · Guru

Thechino wrote:
Wasnt there military people who got high 50s and got the email verification? Unless they threw out 10 questions, this cant be whats final.

There will be a curve. Whatever that median score is, its below 70. Thats how curves work. This is the list of everyone whos 70 or above with throw outs. If the curved median score is 64 that becomes the new 70. If the throw outs brought people to 64 they will not be on this list because this is who currently has a 70. Once they curve it a new list will be made. With that being said I am sure they already know where that curve median score is and are notifying the people that fit within those guidelines. This list is most likely going to get way bigger.

Hennigans404 · Veteran Member

Semp1 wrote:
Thechino wrote:
Wasnt there military people who got high 50s and got the email verification? Unless they threw out 10 questions, this cant be whats final.
There will be a curve. Whatever that median score is, its below 70. Thats how curves work. This is the list of everyone whos 70 or above with throw outs. If the curved median score is 64 that becomes the new 70. If the throw outs brought people to 64 they will not be on this list because this is who currently has a 70. Once they curve it a new list will be made. With that being said I am sure they already know where that curve median score is and are notifying the people that fit within those guidelines. This list is most likely going to get way bigger.

I see what your saying but what is the point of that? If they have a 3k-4k list that doesnt do anyone at the bottom of the list any good With that many names.

Papi825 · Senior Member

I dont understand why the city/job is taking this approach of huge lists. Smfh

-- Edited by Papi825 on Sunday 19th of March 2023 10:54:25 PM

Hennigans404 · Veteran Member

Papi825 wrote:
I dont understand why the city/job is taking this approach of huge lists. Smfh

-- Edited by Papi825 on Sunday 19th of March 2023 10:54:25 PM

I understand anticipated vacancies and the need to have a list big enough to fill them, but realistically 4k names would be a lot in 4 years to promote. 2500 might even be pushing it but still possible.

Passit100 · Senior Member

Hennigans404 wrote:
Semp1 wrote:
Thechino wrote:
Wasnt there military people who got high 50s and got the email verification? Unless they threw out 10 questions, this cant be whats final.
There will be a curve. Whatever that median score is, its below 70. Thats how curves work. This is the list of everyone whos 70 or above with throw outs. If the curved median score is 64 that becomes the new 70. If the throw outs brought people to 64 they will not be on this list because this is who currently has a 70. Once they curve it a new list will be made. With that being said I am sure they already know where that curve median score is and are notifying the people that fit within those guidelines. This list is most likely going to get way bigger.
I see what your saying but what is the point of that? If they have a 3k-4k list that doesnt do anyone at the bottom of the list any good With that many names.

So will 60 and above b g2g

-- Edited by Passit100 on Sunday 19th of March 2023 11:15:58 PM

Passit100 · Senior Member

Papi825 wrote:
I dont understand why the city/job is taking this approach of huge lists. Smfh

-- Edited by Papi825 on Sunday 19th of March 2023 10:54:25 PM

Too.many ppl are leaving retiring etc.....

Jobsded · Veteran Member

Passit100 wrote:
Papi825 wrote:
I dont understand why the city/job is taking this approach of huge lists. Smfh

-- Edited by Papi825 on Sunday 19th of March 2023 10:54:25 PM
Too.many ppl are leaving retiring etc.....

The more cops leave the less sgts you need.

nycop80 · Guru

And then the 12 or 10 hour tours.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Jobsded wrote:
Passit100 wrote:
Papi825 wrote:
I dont understand why the city/job is taking this approach of huge lists. Smfh

-- Edited by Papi825 on Sunday 19th of March 2023 10:54:25 PM
Too.many ppl are leaving retiring etc.....
The more cops leave the less sgts you need.

Agreed but new contracts coming. 10-12 hour tours. People will sign up for the job.

RamJamFlamSong · Senior Member

We have a shortage of sergeants. We have enough cops they just serve in useless roles currently.

tomSGT2022 · Veteran Member

We all are in the same boat (except the 85+ scorers). Like he said there are a ton of sergeant vacancies, growing by the day and a new contract coming. Dont be surprised if there are giant classes in May or April whenever it happens.

Were all stressed out but one day were gonna get that list and the first class goes in and were all gonna be happy. God speed

Jobsded · Veteran Member

RamJamFlamSong wrote:
We have a shortage of sergeants. We have enough cops they just serve in useless roles currently.

Were trending in the wrong direction. Lets see if laddy can actually get this done and reverse whats happening.

GR5 · Veteran Member

DRPapi1983 wrote:
Dont you EVER question my INTELL! The Doctor has spoken!

Your intel also said curve. This is a raw list with what appears to only be throw outs.

At this point I wouldnt be sitting here taking all the credit for actions you really had part in.

Gabagool · Member

There are alot of ppl on this job debating on leaving. Bigger lists keeps a lot of ppl from leaving thinking they will get made one day

Papi825 · Senior Member

People leaving regardless of promotions. There are Sgts who leave the dept to go elsewhere and be cops all over again lol. That shows you how great the working environment is in our Dept/city lol