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Post Info TOPIC: Modern Chart
Are you in favor of a modern work chart? [43 vote(s)]

10 hour tours
44.2%
12 hour tours
51.2%
No modern chart
4.7%


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Modern Chart


Opinions on modern chart? Pros/cons?



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Imagine getting a bag of shit on your 12th hour or a hospitalized? You guys dont know what you asking for. This only works in normal departments where cop collars and drops off. 



-- Edited by Happy Al on Friday 18th of November 2022 11:46:35 PM

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Happy Al wrote:

Imagine getting a bag of shit on your 12th hour or a hospitalized? You guys dont know what you asking for. This only works in normal departments where cop collars and drops off. 



-- Edited by Happy Al on Friday 18th of November 2022 11:15:06 PM


 Or getting ordered for a 12 hour transit tour on your last rdo. 

I personally dont think the tours alone will turn everyone into a positive happy employee who loves coming to work. After all, of course everyones disgruntled. Were not running a daisy farm here. 



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In regards to 12 hours it is a long day, but it pays off when you dont have to come into work that extra day or 2. It would also allow for more coverage day to day. We have a disgruntled department, i think a modern chart would be taking this department into the right direction. Definitely would not solve everything. But having less appearances to work saves us money on commuting and more time at home which would help boost morale. A lot of guys leave this job for a better quality of life in work schedule alone.

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28approved wrote:

In regards to 12 hours it is a long day, but it pays off when you dont have to come into work that extra day or 2. It would also allow for more coverage day to day. We have a disgruntled department, i think a modern chart would be taking this department into the right direction. Definitely would not solve everything. But having less appearances to work saves us money on commuting and more time at home which would help boost morale. A lot of guys leave this job for a better quality of life in work schedule alone.


 

yeah until you get a 12 hour OT hit on your rdo

 

Port Authority has the best system I've seen, they can hit you for doubles or force you to stay but your RDOs are untouchable. Can you imagine how the morale in this department would skyrocket if that happened?



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The best chart is 10 hour tours with steady 3 on 3 off. Regardless, I am confident the job will manage to fuck it up somehow and make the chart worse than what it is now.

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I do think that 10hour chart would be easier to implement because they can still keep the 3 squad chart rotation with some creativity 3 on 3 off or 3 on 4 off etc but my question would be is does the department have to give a 12 hour rdo or can they do a 8/10hr rdo notification? Regardless as the poll will decide i think majority of department would preference the modern chart. I do think its a step in the right direction either way

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We get a full shift if we get ordered in on an RDO. So Id assume wed get a 10 hour hit if we work 10 hour tours.

Part of the reason wed change tour length is to provide the same coverage with the same amount of cops. I dont know if you can do 3 shifts with 10 hour tours. Going to 12 hour tours would of course knock out a shift and personnel from that shift can be moved to one of the new ones. But 12 hours is gonna suck. I dont care how many days off you give me. Getting stuck doing a double, or handling a late bag of shit and then coming in for your regular 12 hour tour the next day will suck. I think the people who advocate 12 hours havent been on patrol in a while.

There are other ways to ensure a better QoL for us without waiting on the union/city to perform a miracle.

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We already are doing 12hrs EVERYDAY SMH

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10hr tours are the sweetspot


Ask your buddies in Nassau..

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Majority of nassau does 12hrs. 2 on 3 off and then 3 on 4 off rotation, for everyday they work they get an additional day off. They also have to giveback 3 days throughout the year at the officers decision. But yes they are very very happy with their schedules.
Midnights unless things changed did 10hours 4 on 4 off.

Mta police does 3 on 4 off with 1 giveback day every 4th week.
With new contract they opened some slots for 10hour tours, 4 on 3 off. 10hr slots are guaranteed weekends off



-- Edited by 28approved on Wednesday 30th of November 2022 06:24:27 PM

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28approved wrote:

Majority of nassau does 12hrs. 2 on 3 off and then 3 on 4 off rotation, for everyday they work they get an additional day off. 


 4 day RDO is sweet. You would think with all the suicides they would try to implement this



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12 hour tours suck to work unless you live 10 minutes or less from work but with an hour commute both ways turns that 12 into 14+ hours. 12 hour tours do drastically increases workforce and quickly though. There are units that work 12 hour tours on the job now they say training like the 8 hour range suck for them because they have to take 4 hours lost time or go to work for 4 hours after they shoot.


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