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As of today and taking the numbers straight from this forum:
499 +/- left on list
82 +/- held up
29 +/- resign/retire/(3/4)/RIP
technically 470 +/- left on list
If promotions don't continue until September that will leave 5 months till expiration of the list. With the typical 1 promotion a month means a range of 94 +/- to 110 +/- a BMOC until the list dies.
granted the Dept can throw in another 200+ BMOC at the end of May and this all changes, but if not - 94+ a month for 5 straight months seems like a lot and wishful thinking. Nothing like bringing this list to the wire.
Ive gone from hopeful they will finish to I just dont know. If promos dont start up again until September I just dont see the City caring enough to finish up in 4 months without some lawsuit forcing them to
The department has the capability of finishing the list in 3 months time as weve seen with the last class being 220. The new fiscal year starts in July and my guess is that is another reason why theyre holding off. Historically when a list is coming to an end they usually pump out classes to exhaust it. It would leave very little room for delays but its quite possible for them too finish the list once September comes around.
The department has the capability of finishing the list in 3 months time as weve seen with the last class being 220. The new fiscal year starts in July and my guess is that is another reason why theyre holding off. Historically when a list is coming to an end they usually pump out classes to exhaust it. It would leave very little room for delays but its quite possible for them too finish the list once September comes around.
Im not saying they cant do it I just think they don't want to
Im just saying the Department wants promos but City Hall keeps shooting it down I just cant see the City doing a 180 and suddenly promoting 470 cops three months in a row. I hope they do but honestly it just seems like the new Regime doesn't care about promos for right now and you have to remember September is West India Parade and the UN conferences so more likely you would not get promos until October meaning they would have to promote 150+ three months in a row or 2 huge classes of 230 back to back I just dont see them doing that unless they are forced to by something. Not trying to be negative but the direction the city is going with this list doesn't look good. If they do another class before September then I would think differently.
At the end of the day its the city that suffers when we are short staffed. You keep over working youre current staff and they will get minimum work done. It is what it is at this point.
I think the most helpful information to crunch the numbers (if anyone has it) would be historical vacancy numbers.
What is the highest number of Sgt vacancies the job has ever had and how much did they promote when they reached that point?
Another useful number would be the average number of Sgt vacancies the job typical has?
For example, right now they have around 325 vacant with around 70 on terminal. Is this the highest or has there been a higher number in the past? That can be telling for the jobs limit on when they would push to promote. Then look at the average number of vacancies they typically have (I know it fluctuates, but maybe there is a consistent number they always get to). So if 500 is the limit, and 100 is low average, then you can expect around 400 promotions over several class when they hit 500, or at the very least expect a small class at 500.
I think the most helpful information to crunch the numbers (if anyone has it) would be historical vacancy numbers.
What is the highest number of Sgt vacancies the job has ever had and how much did they promote when they reached that point?
Another useful number would be the average number of Sgt vacancies the job typical has?
For example, right now they have around 325 vacant with around 70 on terminal. Is this the highest or has there been a higher number in the past? That can be telling for the jobs limit on when they would push to promote. Then look at the average number of vacancies they typically have (I know it fluctuates, but maybe there is a consistent number they always get to). So if 500 is the limit, and 100 is low average, then you can expect around 400 promotions over several class when they hit 500, or at the very least expect a small class at 500.
Obviously its all still speculation though.
Issue is we are dealing with Adams and his administration who are not a speculative type of guys.
I feel like these posts are created by guys who want people to bug out. The blackcloud already notified his family that hes not getting promoted. Everyone needs to just check here for the heavy hitters. Actually, just read what truthseeker or taketheday post
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I feel like these posts are created by guys who want people to bug out. The blackcloud already notified his family that hes not getting promoted. Everyone needs to just check here for the heavy hitters. Actually, just read what truthseeker or taketheday post
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I still think this whole list gets made. With the new sgt test now not until August a new list theoretically won't be created until February 2023 or later. And that's if they create the list in 6 months flat.
