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rookiebit_h · Guru

“Next Year”

Failboat · Senior Member

Got this text today....

DT-Tres · Senior Member

rookiebit_h wrote:
Numerous sources stated no Lt promos until next year. Some consider that Jan 2021.. Some consider that next fiscal year..
LBA is one of the sources

Eventually they will promote. If they dont promote, then they will give another exam.

DT-Tres · Senior Member

Failboat wrote:
Got this text today....

If they do Not promote until 7/21 the list will not even get to 850. That will put the list at approximately 11 months until the 4 year mark. Lol, funny how on all these types of threads there is alway some unit or some other agency telling the department how to run the department. No wonder this job doesnt make any sense, we are probably getting enforcement directives from McDonalds executives.

-- Edited by DT-Tres on Thursday 1st of October 2020 02:35:54 AM

ohnoes · Senior Member

Failboat wrote:
Got this text today....

But if CRC is cut who will respond critically?

Shotsfired · Guru

Failboat wrote:
Got this text today....

Youre insanely naïve. Wow.

Nypd1571 · Member

Take it for what it is worth. I spoke to someone at Risk Management who said It does not appear they will promote anyone until July 2021 Im assuming thats for all exams but Im on the list to be promoted to LT so Im not sure if his answer was for just LT promotions or all promotions. He has been reliable since I have dealt with him (Charges and Level 2 monitoring). I still speak with him because I need to be carbed. Carb will still happen according to him to clear people for promotion when the time comes.

narco26 · Senior Member

Not true they are promoting before July

Nypd1571 · Member

No one hopes youre right That theyll promote before July more than i do. Im just sharing what I was told. I dont know anyone other than the guy at risk. They clear people for promotion through Carb so I figured he would know something. On top of that he was spot on with my charges and days lost before I was even made an offer. like I said I hope hes wrong and they promote because I would be in the next group if I were cleared by carb.

-- Edited by Nypd1571 on Thursday 1st of October 2020 04:23:38 PM

JDMEVO9 · Senior Member

DCAS - HAS extended Other EXAMS by 1 Year that were due to expire this year.
the FACT that someone got their Exam extended MEANS - an Extension on our exams by 1 year IS POSSIBLE.

You can see these Extended exams on their website.

No one believed there would be a 2,000+ sergeant list

No one believed 30 extra questions would be on a sergeants exam (2013)

No one believed all 30 questions after question 100 would Count

No one Believed the SBA would sue and win retro for a small group of 350-ish sergeants

No one believed the 2017 sergeants exam would get delayed 2 times in 2016.

No one believed promotions/transfers would be on a slow down

No one Believes i have 50 tour changes and cant Take CASH OT because of the games Admin Lieutenants Play with the help of the CO

No one believes the test will hire anyone pass 1,000.

ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. There is NO FACTS OR PROOF to calculate anything in the future of this job.

haters will hate and those hopeful may get a good surprise or a bad one.

Enjoy the misery or happiness in your current position

-- Edited by JDMEVO9 on Saturday 3rd of October 2020 08:13:20 PM

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

Its true though, what I cant believe is that after this crazy year were going through people still say that cant happen. I honestly believe anything can happen now, the old standards have been thrown out the window for better or for worse.

Truthseeker · Guru

I will advise you that at a minimum, no promos till January. A sgt test panel is being planned for early next year. Problem that many are not noting is that exams set to expire recently were extended. Means nothing for exams expiring in 2022. Pandemic continues sure anything is possible. But for now theres nothing to get intel on Bc its a non issue

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

Truthseeker wrote:
I will advise you that at a minimum, no promos till January. A sgt test panel is being planned for early next year. Problem that many are not noting is that exams set to expire recently were extended. Means nothing for exams expiring in 2022. Pandemic continues sure anything is possible. But for now theres nothing to get intel on Bc its a non issue

Any news on a recruit class? Thatll be good for promos. I know a few candidates that were called for mini meds recently.

Truthseeker · Guru

Definitely no for October. Back to possibly January again. COULD and this is a big could, be no hire or promos till July. Im hearing theres going to be a captains all out. Not joking on that one. Never seen it so bad financially

gmen18 · Senior Member

Truthseeker wrote:
Definitely no for October. Back to possibly January again. COULD and this is a big could, be no hire or promos till July. Im hearing theres going to be a captains all out. Not joking on that one. Never seen it so bad financially

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

Truthseeker wrote:
Definitely no for October. Back to possibly January again. COULD and this is a big could, be no hire or promos till July. Im hearing theres going to be a captains all out. Not joking on that one. Never seen it so bad financially

As much as we all, or mostly, are no fan of Democrats, we could really use that bailout lol.

Truthseeker · Guru

I often dont go into long term stuff Bc every week things can change. In fact Im posting this Bc Im very confident of where the info is coming from. I believe dept headcount is around 33,500. Apparently there is no known target number at this point atleast from what I can obtain at this point. Heard 32k previously. Vacancies numbers mean nothing. Its useless info at this point. Im told ZERO promotions and ZERO hiring will be occurring till July 2021 at a minimum. I will advise you this is not locker room chatter and comes from a place outside dept w knowledge of budget constraints. I hope this proves to be very wrong but Id figure some would rather know of the extreme possibilities in case they want to plan a different strategy for their career

narco26 · Senior Member

Your wrong buddy sit back and see

Truthseeker · Guru

Hope so. That info is awful for job overall. Effects movement , promos, new hires etc. I post the best info I get

Waiting too long · Veteran Member

Im hearing the same thing, pretty shocked how this is going.

TransitCop · Senior Member

Well I guess overtime for bosses is coming soon. They will need coverage for all those vacancies

Superman · Veteran Member

No more promotions ever. The city will not hire anymore recruits and let the department rot. Eventually everyone will retire and there will be no more NYPD.

samuroy · Veteran Member

Superman wrote:
No more promotions ever. The city will not hire anymore recruits and let the department rot. Eventually everyone will retire and there will be no more NYPD.

Wait a second here! I think that this may upset you, and I apoligize in advance if it does, but it needs to be said: ...but I don't think you're really Superman.

Nyjoe84 · Senior Member

Hey Superman go back under your bridge , TROLL.....

Superman · Veteran Member

Lighten up. It was obviously a joke to lighten the mood

Jibberjab · Senior Member

Personnel at academy being shipped out to busy commands. Any hope of an academy class soon is not happening.

brooklynbacon · Guru

Jibberjab wrote:
Personnel at academy being shipped out to busy commands. Any hope of an academy class soon is not happening.

This happened months ago.

Jibberjab · Senior Member

brooklynbacon wrote:
Jibberjab wrote:
Personnel at academy being shipped out to busy commands. Any hope of an academy class soon is not happening.
This happened months ago.

It started months ago but they just got rid of almost all of them now. I thought they cancelled training bc of election nonsense but its bc none of those instructors are there anymore. This week the rest got shipped out.

Nyjoe84 · Senior Member

They canceled the July class and October class, there may be a January class but its all in limbo. All PA personal were sent out in July to commands. Nothing new there.

Truthseeker · Guru

The personnel on the finest were already out temporary assignment to all out commands. The temp all out simply was set to expire this weekend. With no class of recruits set the assignments were simply extended. No new personnel were shipped out. If and its a huge if, there is an end of October class, its a simple finest revoking the temp assignment. This info offers nothing new on state of affairs. I will offer two things to note:

1- hearing 12 hours tours take effect oct 26. Rdos will not be cancelled unless things go bad

2- this is more rumorish. Hearing no promotion exams to be scheduled through Dcas until 2022. If this is true I would think extension of list would be in play. Again just stating something that was told to me

IamTheLaw · Senior Member

Much love and appreciation to you Truthseeker! It's good to have someone else "in the know" say off the wall things like me that pan out more times than not. Thanks for taking on the burden friend. As I said before and October class is still trying to be sorted out though keep in mind it of course can pulled at any time. Still feeling cautiously optimistic about it though!

narco26 · Senior Member

Stop the BS no list is getting extended it will reopen the case I believe in 2006. List will be cut at 750 WTF

narco26 · Senior Member

And if they attempt to I gave an attorney on board already.

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

narco26 wrote:
And if they attempt to I gave an attorney on board already.

Paging Nurse Ratched! its time for this patients medication again.

brooklynbacon · Guru

Jibberjab wrote:
brooklynbacon wrote:
Jibberjab wrote:
Personnel at academy being shipped out to busy commands. Any hope of an academy class soon is not happening.
This happened months ago.
It started months ago but they just got rid of almost all of them now. I thought they cancelled training bc of election nonsense but its bc none of those instructors are there anymore. This week the rest got shipped out.

Wheres you hear/see this? Where did they go?

Truthseeker · Guru

Bacon the information this person provided is false. Training was scheduled to be canceled weeks ago due to election protests. Other training was further cancelled this week due to covd concerns. Again, none of this effecting promotions in the least. Biggest prohibitor of promotions right now is budget constraints. Until that is solved then promotions will continue to be non existent or minimal at best

JDMEVO9 · Senior Member

Youve been wrong in the past narco.

find a post of mine where i was wrong.

lists WILL get extended because teachers cant even enter their own building yet 14,000 cops will pack a classroom for a promotional exam when they have a massive list they can and will Extend. stop it.

covid has its own set of rules.

ALL LISTS will be extended.. watch and see

Truthseeker · Guru

I have turned into a believer if extended list. But Ill add this does nothing in regards to original idea of list expiring w ppl still on it. Extending the list will just add back this awful year in promos.

narco26 · Senior Member

When that happens their is a group of us that will put the city on notice.

narco26 · Senior Member

And there isnt 14000 to pack the school there are approximately 5400 Sgts and some dont even take the exam.

narco26 · Senior Member

Sorry and I forgot a vaccine will be coming soon hopefully by mid November, so stop this BS that list is getting extended. I will bet my next four checks that list will be cut around 750. The job doesnt care they dont need Lts as much as Sgts and POs. The job is starting to realize how we dont need the rank of LT and this came from a reliable source. I mean just take a look they got rid of a lot of Lts spot in precincts. Go ahead start posting that Im a troll etc Im giving you facts.

Semp1 · Guru

The reality is if they dont extend the list and lets say a group then sues and makes a case of why a list should be extended in regards to unforeseen and existing circumstance that failed to allow a list to properly be promoted off of that will essentially hold the next list up due to a court having to make a judgement on the current lists fate. Where as a suit complaining the list should be cut at 4 years and not extended does not hold anything up. It seems like it would be just a waste of finances considering civil servant law allows 1 year extensions.

-- Edited by Semp1 on Sunday 18th of October 2020 02:35:22 PM

-- Edited by Semp1 on Sunday 18th of October 2020 02:36:18 PM

brooklynbacon · Guru

If the list does get extended then it will just add back a terrible year of promotions. They wont magically start promoting 35 a month.
Sadly i think this do more with less approach is here to stay...

Also for anyone with decent time on, the 9/11 lists were not extended.

PD2FD · Guru

Has anyone heard about the tours we're working starting 10/25 ? I heard a rumor about 5 different tours to prevent mass overtime. Anyone have any good Intel regarding this ?

Shotsfired · Guru

PD2FD wrote:
Has anyone heard about the tours we're working starting 10/25 ? I heard a rumor about 5 different tours to prevent mass overtime. Anyone have any good Intel regarding this ?

Yea this is something they have been talking about and Implemented starting next week. Dunno where you work that nobody told you..

gmen18 · Senior Member

yes there was a directive issued

-- Edited by gmen18 on Wednesday 21st of October 2020 02:34:50 AM

TransitJoe · Senior Member

I know it was told to me and my colleagues via email, about the 5 different tours, but I cant find it written anywhere. No finest message, no ops order, nothing. Anyone find it?

rookiebit_h · Guru

TransitJoe wrote:
I know it was told to me and my colleagues via email, about the 5 different tours, but I cant find it written anywhere. No finest message, no ops order, nothing. Anyone find it?

rookiebit_h · Guru

TransitJoe wrote:
I know it was told to me and my colleagues via email, about the 5 different tours, but I cant find it written anywhere. No finest message, no ops order, nothing. Anyone find it?

PD2FD · Guru

Shotsfired wrote:
PD2FD wrote:
Has anyone heard about the tours we're working starting 10/25 ? I heard a rumor about 5 different tours to prevent mass overtime. Anyone have any good Intel regarding this ?
Yea this is something they have been talking about and Implemented starting next week. Dunno where you work that nobody told you..

I'm in the middle of nowhere, we get our intel last