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August mentoring


August mentoring emails went out today. Congrats to those going in.biggrin



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Really?

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Any word on how many?

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So it is true. Good! I hope they keep this pace up. 



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Said this would happen months ago. Congrats everyone!

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Its confirmed!! Congrats to all!!!!!



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wait so there is a class in bmoc and there will be a class in mentoring?

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Congrats to those who got the email!

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So thats what it takes to run mentoring and bmoc simultaneously. 250 vacancies / terminals

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Anybody have any idea how many, or high on the list they got up to?

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So wait what did i miss? They are running mentoring while bmoc is rolling?

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760+

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So wait what did i miss? They are running mentoring while bmoc is rolling?


 If the rumors are true yes 



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I heard it's about 80 ppl, that should bring list to about 780

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I heard it's about 80 ppl, that should bring list to about 780


 Keep in mind that there will be skip overs, so that 780 could be more 



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All i can pray is another 80 in 3-4 weeks. I hope someone at 1pp read my post and made sense of it. THANK YOU.



-- Edited by yougonow on Thursday 18th of July 2019 11:12:52 PM

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Im in the 770s and got my email

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Who else got email and what number ?

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adjusted list number 775 received an email. tried looking at the june/july mentoring thread, what was the time frame for email to finest getting assigned to mentoring?

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When it was my friends time he got the request for mentoring command in the middle of the week and I cant remember if they told him by Friday of by Monday the needed an answer. By the end of the following week the finest came down with where to report to. So using that as an example these guys finest would come down July 26th

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Any movement is a good development for those of us in 1800s. I hope they keep this up so we can at least get to a 1000.

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Low 780's got email as well

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Tick Tock... Tick Tock... Tick Tock...



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Any movement is a good development for those of us in 1800s. I hope they keep this up so we can at least get to a 1000.


 Im in the mid 1,800s and I think it will come down to the wire 



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Same here. Im either going to be last class or die on this list as I dont see it going past 1900.

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Low 780's got email as well


 How about the 790s? Anybody here if they got that high?



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My friend is low 790s and he didn't get the email

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This list will get into the 2000s guaranteed. 1800s have nothing to worry about. Anyone who says anything else is either trolling or doesnt understand simple math. Sit back, relax and enjoy your promotion.

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This list will get into the 2000s guaranteed. 1800s have nothing to worry about. Anyone who says anything else is either trolling or doesnt understand simple math. Sit back, relax and enjoy your promotion.


 What simple math? We are slightly above average, yes. But not by a huge stride. Once these vacancies are filled, it can be a while. Nothing is guaranteed. I dont see 2k personally. I see 1800 max. Again just personally believing that, a hypothetical.



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The historical average is 37 a month which is 444 a year. 444X4=1776 The july bmoc puts us at#703 in 18 months. Thats a 463 per year pace. 463X4=1852. Thats not even including passovers/resignations. Clearly, the trend currently is that the average is only going to go up, not down. So yes, I believe no one under 1900 should be worried and I believe the last list number promoted of this list will start with a 2.

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Noice wrote:

This list will get into the 2000s guaranteed. 1800s have nothing to worry about. Anyone who says anything else is either trolling or doesnt understand simple math. Sit back, relax and enjoy your promotion.


Its not getting to 2000.



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yougonow wrote:
Noice wrote:

This list will get into the 2000s guaranteed. 1800s have nothing to worry about. Anyone who says anything else is either trolling or doesnt understand simple math. Sit back, relax and enjoy your promotion.


 What simple math? We are slightly above average, yes. But not by a huge stride. Once these vacancies are filled, it can be a while. Nothing is guaranteed. I dont see 2k personally. I see 1800 max. Again just personally believing that, a hypothetical.


 I was going to post something similar but you beat me to it. Using the original list, the class in mentoring puts us at 696. The class that just got emails puts us 780-785. That leaves us with enough time to put at least 1 more class in this year. If that class is the standard minimum 50ish the list will probably be around 840. Using simple math that gets the list to 1675-1700 by expiration.

However ill play devils advocate for everyone beyond 1700. Will they put 1 or 2 more classes in this year? How big are the classes going to be? Do retirements continue to outpace last year by 40%? All questions no one has the answers to

Ill leave you with this fact though... in 2020 everyone with a 925,926,927 tax is eligible for retirement 



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Let's all wait and see what happens and take it month by month. We were surprised to see this sudden mentoring group jump in. Looks like they finally used common sense and are gonna start putting in a mentoring once previous mentorings go into BMOC. They should have done that a while back.

Also, Mr. Top secret information up there who keeps saying I told you so ... well um. Lets give credit where credit is due.

Guy said list was 2600 and people including myself told him to go screw off. He was right.

He then claimed hiring will pick up many months back and he was right again .....

So gotta give credit where its due man. He was right, and he also claims the list will be finished.

I don't believe that **** either ... but um ... he's 2 for 2 so far. We shall see.

Good luck to everyone nonetheless. There are so many great cops down there in the deep 1,000's and early 2,000's who will make great bosses. This whole notion that the higher you get the better quality boss you get is pure bull****.

Good luck and stay safe.

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Let's all wait and see what happens and take it month by month. We were surprised to see this sudden mentoring group jump in. Looks like they finally used common sense and are gonna start putting in a mentoring once previous mentorings go into BMOC. They should have done that a while back.

Also, Mr. Top secret information up there who keeps saying I told you so ... well um. Lets give credit where credit is due.

Guy said list was 2600 and people including myself told him to go screw off. He was right.

He then claimed hiring will pick up many months back and he was right again .....

So gotta give credit where its due man. He was right, and he also claims the list will be finished.

I don't believe that **** either ... but um ... he's 2 for 2 so far. We shall see.

Good luck to everyone nonetheless. There are so many great cops down there in the deep 1,000's and early 2,000's who will make great bosses. This whole notion that the higher you get the better quality boss you get is pure bull****.

Good luck and stay safe.


 I agree as well Iamthelaw has been spot on so far.. i didn't believe the list will finish ..I'm over 2200 so at this point jus have to hope for the best and hope the dude is right jus have to see what the next few months bring



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Taketheday wrote:
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Let's all wait and see what happens and take it month by month. We were surprised to see this sudden mentoring group jump in. Looks like they finally used common sense and are gonna start putting in a mentoring once previous mentorings go into BMOC. They should have done that a while back.

Also, Mr. Top secret information up there who keeps saying I told you so ... well um. Lets give credit where credit is due.

Guy said list was 2600 and people including myself told him to go screw off. He was right.

He then claimed hiring will pick up many months back and he was right again .....

So gotta give credit where its due man. He was right, and he also claims the list will be finished.

I don't believe that **** either ... but um ... he's 2 for 2 so far. We shall see.

Good luck to everyone nonetheless. There are so many great cops down there in the deep 1,000's and early 2,000's who will make great bosses. This whole notion that the higher you get the better quality boss you get is pure bull****.

Good luck and stay safe.


 I agree as well Iamthelaw has been spot on so far.. i didn't believe the list will finish ..I'm over 2200 so at this point jus have to hope for the best and hope the dude is right jus have to see what the next few months bring


 Hes been on point the whole time.



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2600 made. No snowball chance in Hell. 1800 is my max. I know im not the law prediction, but if we were to hit over 2k, wed be in the 900s by now. The dept did not utilize common sense with dumping guys into mentoring WHILE BMOC is one or two weeks in. Made absolutely no sense to wait a solid mentoring-bmoc cycle to start again with another 3 week mentoring then bmoc. Total cycle of 7-8 weeks at a time. A waste of time. I see 900-925 by end of year or first class in Jan.



-- Edited by yougonow on Monday 22nd of July 2019 12:58:12 AM

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Mentoring picks were due today. Based on how past classes have done it, the finest should drop in the next few days.

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UrinalFly wrote:

Mentoring picks were due today. Based on how past classes have done it, the finest should drop in the next few days.


 Heard August 5th or 12th for August mentoring. Take it with a grain of salt, heard from a friend of a friend. 



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got the email and sent back my selections. Anyone hear any concrete start date for mentoring? Thanks

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mentoring finest drop yet? How many?

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No finest, hoping for next week, a little concerned since the July class is in BMOC until September 8th

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They didnt send those emails just for fun. Worst case everyone has to wait a few weeks so they can line up mentoring to finish around the same time the next bmoc does. If mentoring is 3 weeks then itll start mid August

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This mentoring is so annoying

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News from current BMOC group, next BMOC should start Sept 2nd, 80 names.

That puts mentoring start on August 12th?

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That would give us bmocs overlapping for a week. Not the first time they have ever done that, but its the first time since using this list

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Can you ask what their plan is for Lieutenants next month as well?

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Is it me or did DCAS say 1562 is certified on their automated line?

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I called too and heard same thing. What does that mean exactly?



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DCAS clears names ahead of time. They see who has charges, investigations, college credits, etc so they know who is eligible to be promoted. Usually they are a couple hundred names ahead of the list so in case the job is like We need 100 sgts ASAP! they can provide the names. Being 700-800 names ahead, if true, is definitely out of the ordinary. It could mean something, it could mean nothing. Only time will tell.

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thanks, thats what i thought it meant. Was hoping it wasnt like the final list tally or something.



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I heard two big classes of 80, one for Sept, one for October promotions , that doesn't include the 82 in BMOC now

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