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So 4 were passed over from 105 to 164 unless more than 55 are getting promoted Sept 28. Is sept 28th confirmed?


 Don't forget, their are people who were passed over for not having enough time etc who will be in this class. So it's possible that either more than 55 people are going in or more than 4 people were passed over from 105-164.



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Thanks neveragain for the flawless intel

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monkeybones wrote:

Thanks neveragain for the flawless intel


 np



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mentoring guidelines

if u are not assigned to a pct , transit dist or housing u will be attending mentoring they dont care if ur assigned to esu,DB if ur cmd code is outside of those three places you are going


 Wowzers!



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Never again, any update on the mentoring? The list come down yet?


 as of right now the finest for Lt mentoring and Sgt Bmoc is with Chief Morris waiting of publication i have bird eyes in the offices once it moves i will let you know but it looks very possible today at 1630


 Lol neveragain..birds eyes huh. The last time we tired listening to your brainless intel we were waiting for the Lt list to drop...my sources at 1pp..yadda yadda. The only lesson i learned was to "neveragain" listen to your fake news



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Never again, any update on the mentoring? The list come down yet?


 as of right now the finest for Lt mentoring and Sgt Bmoc is with Chief Morris waiting of publication i have bird eyes in the offices once it moves i will let you know but it looks very possible today at 1630


 Lol neveragain..birds eyes huh. The last time we tired listening to your brainless intel we were waiting for the Lt list to drop...my sources at 1pp..yadda yadda. The only lesson i learned was to "neveragain" listen to your fake news


first off personal drop the ball that's why it was release late but I was keep my fake news to myself everyone thx this As@@ole



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Never again, any update on the mentoring? The list come down yet?


 as of right now the finest for Lt mentoring and Sgt Bmoc is with Chief Morris waiting of publication i have bird eyes in the offices once it moves i will let you know but it looks very possible today at 1630


 Lol neveragain..birds eyes huh. The last time we tired listening to your brainless intel we were waiting for the Lt list to drop...my sources at 1pp..yadda yadda. The only lesson i learned was to "neveragain" listen to your fake news


first off personal drop the ball that's why it was release late but I was keep my fake news to myself everyone thx this As@@ole


 Don't listen to that loser !! He just craves attention to feed his low self-esteem. Continue doing what you do in providing us with good Intel, you're the only 9ne providing this forum with valuable intel.



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RANK NAME TAX# FROM TO

 

SDS MICHAEL J KATINAS 936846 009 DET 121 PCT

 

SDS HECTOR J FUENTES 928325 040 DET 006 PCT

 

SGT JAMES D REILLY 937350 INT CIS 110 PCT

 

SGT HAMEED S ARMANI 941360 INT OAS 109 PCT

 

SGT TAMIKA N STAPLETON 938281 RMB BODY CAM 103 PCT

 

SGT TERENCE D MCCABE 940387 SPL TRN 070 PCT

 

SGT JAMES M CARRERO 929840 I.A.B. 103 PCT

 

SGT GOWDAT S NAGI 937162 I.A.B. 060 PCT

 

SGT JOSEPH VERDEROSA 933454 I.A.B. 070 PCT

 

SGT DWAYNE A WATSON 940923 I.A.B. 077 PCT

 

SGT DIXUN SU 940777 PROPCLK 079 PCT

 

SGT JAMES F FOSTER 930175 CJB CMU 1 040 PCT

 

SGT JIANPING ZENG 942743 BKLN CT 120 PCT

 

SGT NASEER A NAIK 925813 SRG 2 025 PCT

 

SGT MICHAEL W LAM 947150 SRG 3 079 PCT

 

SGT GEORGE T BROWN 943028 PSB NP&SU 041 PCT

 

SGT JOEL P VARUGHESE 935908 PBQS INV 110 PCT

 

SGT TROY A LUIS 936991 BUS UT 010 PCT

 

SGT BRANDI N SANCHEZ 935685 DB GLD 113 PCT

 

SGT CHRISTOPHER J DOTY 936514 DB FCTF 113 PCT

 

SGT TANCREDO CONTRERAS 943103 MN VICE MOD 019 PCT

 

SGT ABRAHAM BADILLO 936162 NARCBBS 077 PCT

 

 







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There are rumblings on the Sergeant forums regarding mentoring. The Finest would drop tomorrow for them to start Monday Oct 29 for three weeks of mentoring and then they begin five weeks of BMOC before they get promoted for Christmas. I looked when the last Lts mentoring occurred. The Fnest came down Sept 7 with a start date of Sept 10 and promotions Sept 28. If they are doing mentoring for this rumored Thanksgiving Lts class- our Finest also needs to drop tomorrow Friday Oct 26 for Mentoring to start Monday Oct 29. Anyone with any intel?



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@neverAgain any update ? Usually you know the most about mentoring/classes!!

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Courtesy of Mike Yanosik

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Looks like they reached 216 for mentoring so the rumors of another class of 50 are promising.

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Does anyome know if they have more people on standby for Lts mentoring, as they supposedly have for sgts mentoring?

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Mentoring ends 11/20? So when are promotions...the day before Thanksgiving?

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Yes Promotions are tentatively 11/21; the day before Thanksgiving. 



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Can anyone whos done mentoring before tell me if there is any merit to the program. I start tomorrow. When they sent us Sergeants to mentor (Id say the biggest transition) I would take them out and walk them through my duties as well as my decision making process as well as my judgment calls. Since weve all been supervisors thats not really necessary; I was wondering if there was anything that was shown that anyone found valuable that benefited you prior to actually being a Lieutenant?

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Can anyone whos done mentoring before tell me if there is any merit to the program. I start tomorrow. When they sent us Sergeants to mentor (Id say the biggest transition) I would take them out and walk them through my duties as well as my decision making process as well as my judgment calls. Since weve all been supervisors thats not really necessary; I was wondering if there was anything that was shown that anyone found valuable that benefited you prior to actually being a Lieutenant?


 LT mentoring is a waste of time, obviously. its 3 weeks of you taking lost time and doing nothing.



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I know mentoring program is still really new, but Do they only promote upto the last person that went to mentoring class or they go beyond as long as u r not in non-patrol command?

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They promote beyond. The mentoring is for non patrol Commands so they could very well promote a few names past the last person on the mentoring Finest list if those people are assigned to patrol/housing/transit. The assumption is as you get closer to promotion the Commands themselves are taking it upon themselves to mentor you for your new position. 



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New Operations Order for Lts mentoring

-- Edited by SRGrook033 on Thursday 1st of November 2018 02:50:37 AM

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Could this be the making of a new LT's position at PCT level? 



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Doubt it. The XO is responsible and will more than likely delegate to the Admin Lieutenant. 



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This Lt. Mentoring sounds like it's a huge waste..

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I wont bash it yet as its only been a week but I can definitely say having mentored Officers becoming Sergeants and having my command take initiative when I was up for promotion (pre-mentoring) I can see the usefulness as the transition from Police Officer to supervisor. Also I can make the argument intellectually for Lieutenent to Captain going from a mid-level manager to an Executive Administrative role.

Also perhaps this is more beneficial for a Sergeant whos been off the streets for a significant amount of time. But again Ill complete the program and then update with a more honest assessment. Also there is a new Operations order regarding Lts mentoring. 



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Looks like they reached 216 for mentoring so the rumors of another class of 50 are promising.


#217 & #218 are patrol and #219 is Admin. Since they stopped at 216 this would indicate either a class smaller than 50. Around 46-48 if everyone cleared is eligible. Fingers crossed for one last class in Dec...



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Kramer thanks for this.

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When do you typically get notified for photos? 



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3yrWonder wrote:

Looks like they reached 216 for mentoring so the rumors of another class of 50 are promising.


#217 & #218 are patrol and #219 is Admin. Since they stopped at 216 this would indicate either a class smaller than 50. Around 46-48 if everyone cleared is eligible. Fingers crossed for one last class in Dec...





6skipped for time reasons are eligible now..

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-- Edited by monkeybones on Thursday 8th of November 2018 03:43:53 PM

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3yrWonder wrote:

Looks like they reached 216 for mentoring so the rumors of another class of 50 are promising.


#217 & #218 are patrol and #219 is Admin. Since they stopped at 216 this would indicate either a class smaller than 50. Around 46-48 if everyone cleared is eligible. Fingers crossed for one last class in Dec...



 Seems like 7 time Passovers and you'll probably get a few people who are cleared by CARB.




 



-- Edited by PD2FD on Thursday 8th of November 2018 05:24:10 PM

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Based on the latest number information, do any of you guys have any new theories or opinions on whether or not this LT list will be cut?

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Honestly its just too early for speculation. But the pace is good. 



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You and your pace. You never have solid info

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Im in the mid 800s and I think Im not going to make it. I think after May of 2019 it will start slowing down a lot. I cant see them making over 1000 in just less then three years but I might be wrong.

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Im in the mid 800s and I think Im not going to make it. I think after May of 2019 it will start slowing down a lot. I cant see them making over 1000 in just less then three years but I might be wrong.


So you're in the mid 800s on the Lt's list and the mid 1600's on the sgt's list at the same time and expect to be cut off of both lists???? Maybe if you put as much effort into studying as you did into trolling you'd actually be on a list instead of wishing for people to expire on them. Better luck next time.



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Based on the latest number information, do any of you guys have any new theories or opinions on whether or not this LT list will be cut?


 Yup still too early to tell but i cant see this pace keeping up 3 and a half more years...

Id say 850 or so and down should be safe.



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Im in the mid 800s and I think Im not going to make it. I think after May of 2019 it will start slowing down a lot. I cant see them making over 1000 in just less then three years but I might be wrong.


So you're in the mid 800s on the Lt's list and the mid 1600's on the sgt's list at the same time and expect to be cut off of both lists???? Maybe if you put as much effort into studying as you did into trolling you'd actually be on a list instead of wishing for people to expire on them. Better luck next time.



-- Edited by IamTheLaw on Friday 9th of November 2018 01:20:28 PM


 Lol wth



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Im in the mid 800s and I think Im not going to make it. I think after May of 2019 it will start slowing down a lot. I cant see them making over 1000 in just less then three years but I might be wrong.


 Hes on the list for PO as well.



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Narco26 needs to be ignored. Hes just seeking attention and brings only negativity. He knows nothing and is on no promotional list. Guy seriously has way to much time on his hands.



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By the first year mark we will be around the early to mid 300s, possibly more. There will be a lot of retirements after the contract is up as well. Its funny bc no one is saying the captains list is gonna get cut. If this list gets cut so does the captains. When they promote everyone on both list in the next 3 1/2 years, you can come back here and say I was right.

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Well I'm hearing 50 for Nov 21 and a class in December of 50. So by the end of 2018 we should be close to the 300 mark. And I keep hearing about this mass retirement of Lt's supposed to be happening in May 2019, but all are rumors at this point but if it happens many more vacancies will open up.

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So if they get into the mid to low 300s by the 6-7 month mark there are people that think they will only promote 500 in the next 3 1/2 years with an active captains list? That would mean averaging around 140 names a year for the remainder. Def going to be a lot more than that. All due respect Brooklynbacon your number at 850 is WAY too low if youre gonna play the cut off game.

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Well I'm hearing 50 for Nov 21 and a class in December of 50. So by the end of 2018 we should be close to the 300 mark. And I keep hearing about this mass retirement of Lt's supposed to be happening in May 2019, but all are rumors at this point but if it happens many more vacancies will open up.


 Where is all this vacancy for 50 in december coming from, according to 63asap we barely have 50 for nov21 class...43 vacancies and 18 terminal...



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Well I'm hearing 50 for Nov 21 and a class in December of 50. So by the end of 2018 we should be close to the 300 mark. And I keep hearing about this mass retirement of Lt's supposed to be happening in May 2019, but all are rumors at this point but if it happens many more vacancies will open up.


 Where is all this vacancy for 50 in december coming from, according to 63asap we barely have 50 for nov21 class...43 vacancies and 18 terminal...


 This is true but they already cleared up to 321 so that would seem to indicate a lot of upcoming vacancies. 



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Well I'm hearing 50 for Nov 21 and a class in December of 50. So by the end of 2018 we should be close to the 300 mark. And I keep hearing about this mass retirement of Lt's supposed to be happening in May 2019, but all are rumors at this point but if it happens many more vacancies will open up.


 Where is all this vacancy for 50 in december coming from, according to 63asap we barely have 50 for nov21 class...43 vacancies and 18 terminal...


Back when the 2015 list was on the cusp of exhaustion, the job promoted well more than the vacancies showed. If the money is there, they can promote as many as they want (hence why some designations are well above the allotment, like Deputy Chiefs and LCD's). Similarly, they can keep vacancies open as long as they want if they feel the job is fine the way it is. That's why the vacancies are traditionally a good indicator, but never a guarantee. The 50 this month makes sense given what the numbers currently show. For them to do another 50 in a month, that would be consistent with over-promoting since the vacancy numbers don't correspond. Just my 2 cents. Truthfully, you never really know. I would love for it to be true, though, since I'm getting pretty close.



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Look what the job did with the last sgts exam, when they over promoted 100s of Sgts just so they can take the 2017 LT exam. There is no rhyme or reason for anything on this job.

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I believe the date is November 20th, not November 21. Perhaps someone getting promoted in this class can clarify?

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Yes Tuesday Nov 20th is the date of Promotion.

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I have a question...So hypothetically speaking if there is also a December class , how would that run?

Would promotions be the week before Christmas and BMOC would run over the Christmas week?

I know I read on here that there is a rumor for a December class as well. Historically does anyone know how it been done in the past?

I am pretty close and could possibly be in the December class if there is one, that is why Im asking.



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I am currently in the Lt mentoring and I have no clue when photos are taken or whether promotions are on the 20th or 21st. Anyone who has done the previous mentoring have any info on when or if they took photos before promotion?

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