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DRPapi1983 wrote:

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Whats lots of people got an 85% or better ? More than 100?

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 I don't want to spread that rumor.  I did not count the numbers. I can tell you that while looking thru the list for my buddies i saw a lot of ppl with 85 or better.  

not to be a hater but the list the jobs has didn't even have score its just tax name and ssn and Im a 110% sure of that

AND AGAIN NOT TRYING TO START NO BOARD  FIGHT

So with the curve ,..can anyone confirm the actual credit you get for getting a question wrong? Is it 1/3??? Thought I read this somewhere,...so for example, if you only got 15 wrong,.your score would be curved to a 90 (1/3 of 15 questions is 5 so add 5 to the original score ),...not to mention any seniority points and throwouts,...

CappedOut wrote:

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DRPapi1983 wrote:

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So with the curve ,..can anyone confirm the actual credit you get for getting a question wrong? Is it 1/3??? Thought I read this somewhere,...so for example, if you only got 15 wrong,.your score would be curved to a 90 (1/3 of 15 questions is 5 so add 5 to the original score ),...not to mention any seniority points and throwouts,...

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Nobody knows what the curve is for our exam yet. They know what the Sgts exam was curved to, but there's no way of knowing what ours was yet. The scale is based off of the difference between the average scores of the original and make up exams, which is obviously different between our test and the sergeants test.  

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 Gotcha ,..thanks for he clarification CappedOut

neverAgain wrote:

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DRPapi1983 wrote:

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So with the curve ,..can anyone confirm the actual credit you get for getting a question wrong? Is it 1/3??? Thought I read this somewhere,...so for example, if you only got 15 wrong,.your score would be curved to a 90 (1/3 of 15 questions is 5 so add 5 to the original score ),...not to mention any seniority points and throwouts,...

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 STEP 1 CURRENT AT 1PP = LIST OF NAMES NO SCORES

STEP 2 JOB RETURN LIST TO DCAS= WITH SENIORTY, MEDALS AND JST

STEP 3 DCAS =ADD VET POINTS, 9/11 SURVIVOR POINTS AND DISABLE VET POINTS

(SHOULD TAKE ONE TO TWO WEEKS )

STEP 4 DCAS =CERTIFY LIST AND RETURN TO NYPD

STEP 5 NYPD= DOES CHECK WITH CCRB, EEO, IAB AND PERFORMANCE MON. UNIT

-- Edited by neverAgain on Tuesday 27th of March 2018 08:49:48 PM

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So is what Blooklybacon saying about less than 100 ppl scoring a 90 or above out the window?  

Leslie wrote:

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neverAgain wrote:

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DRPapi1983 wrote:

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So with the curve ,..can anyone confirm the actual credit you get for getting a question wrong? Is it 1/3??? Thought I read this somewhere,...so for example, if you only got 15 wrong,.your score would be curved to a 90 (1/3 of 15 questions is 5 so add 5 to the original score ),...not to mention any seniority points and throwouts,...

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 STEP 1 CURRENT AT 1PP = LIST OF NAMES NO SCORES

STEP 2 JOB RETURN LIST TO DCAS= WITH SENIORTY, MEDALS AND JST

STEP 3 DCAS =ADD VET POINTS, 9/11 SURVIVOR POINTS AND DISABLE VET POINTS

(SHOULD TAKE ONE TO TWO WEEKS )

STEP 4 DCAS =CERTIFY LIST AND RETURN TO NYPD

STEP 5 NYPD= DOES CHECK WITH CCRB, EEO, IAB AND PERFORMANCE MON. UNIT

-- Edited by neverAgain on Tuesday 27th of March 2018 08:49:48 PM

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So is what Blooklybacon saying about less than 100 ppl scoring a 90 or above out the window?  

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IM JUST SAYING I SAW THE LIST AND ITS NO SCORES

AND ONLY 210 WAS ADDED AFTER THROWOUT 

DRPapi1983 wrote:

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Leslie wrote:

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neverAgain wrote:

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DRPapi1983 wrote:

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So with the curve ,..can anyone confirm the actual credit you get for getting a question wrong? Is it 1/3??? Thought I read this somewhere,...so for example, if you only got 15 wrong,.your score would be curved to a 90 (1/3 of 15 questions is 5 so add 5 to the original score ),...not to mention any seniority points and throwouts,...

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 STEP 1 CURRENT AT 1PP = LIST OF NAMES NO SCORES

STEP 2 JOB RETURN LIST TO DCAS= WITH SENIORTY, MEDALS AND JST

STEP 3 DCAS =ADD VET POINTS, 9/11 SURVIVOR POINTS AND DISABLE VET POINTS

(SHOULD TAKE ONE TO TWO WEEKS )

STEP 4 DCAS =CERTIFY LIST AND RETURN TO NYPD

STEP 5 NYPD= DOES CHECK WITH CCRB, EEO, IAB AND PERFORMANCE MON. UNIT

-- Edited by neverAgain on Tuesday 27th of March 2018 08:49:48 PM

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So is what Blooklybacon saying about less than 100 ppl scoring a 90 or above out the window?  

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 Who knows ,..but Im sure someone has more info than what we already know/speculate.  I can see more than 100 scoring an 85 or better ,..but with the curve ,..it will change this quite a bit,...stay tuned 

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 I was looking for a response from someone with solid info not SPECULATION... I can speculate myself lmao

neverAgain wrote:

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DRPapi1983 wrote:

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So with the curve ,..can anyone confirm the actual credit you get for getting a question wrong? Is it 1/3??? Thought I read this somewhere,...so for example, if you only got 15 wrong,.your score would be curved to a 90 (1/3 of 15 questions is 5 so add 5 to the original score ),...not to mention any seniority points and throwouts,...

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 STEP 1 CURRENTLY AT 1PP = LIST OF NAMES NO SCORES

STEP 2 JOB RETURN LIST TO DCAS= WITH SENIORTY, MEDALS AND JST

STEP 3 DCAS =ADD VET POINTS, 9/11 SURVIVOR POINTS AND DISABLE VET POINTS

(SHOULD TAKE ONE TO TWO WEEKS )

STEP 4 DCAS =CERTIFY LIST AND RETURN TO NYPD

STEP 5 NYPD= DOES CHECK WITH CCRB, EEO, IAB AND PERFORMANCE MON. UNIT

-- Edited by neverAgain on Tuesday 27th of March 2018 08:49:48 PM

-- Edited by neverAgain on Tuesday 27th of March 2018 08:55:37 PM

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Hey Neveragain does the list get relased when DCAS certifies it or after the job does background checks? 

-- Edited by Leslie on Tuesday 27th of March 2018 09:08:04 PM

Leslie wrote:

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neverAgain wrote:

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DRPapi1983 wrote:

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So with the curve ,..can anyone confirm the actual credit you get for getting a question wrong? Is it 1/3??? Thought I read this somewhere,...so for example, if you only got 15 wrong,.your score would be curved to a 90 (1/3 of 15 questions is 5 so add 5 to the original score ),...not to mention any seniority points and throwouts,...

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 STEP 1 CURRENTLY AT 1PP = LIST OF NAMES NO SCORES

STEP 2 JOB RETURN LIST TO DCAS= WITH SENIORTY, MEDALS AND JST

STEP 3 DCAS =ADD VET POINTS, 9/11 SURVIVOR POINTS AND DISABLE VET POINTS

(SHOULD TAKE ONE TO TWO WEEKS )

STEP 4 DCAS =CERTIFY LIST AND RETURN TO NYPD

STEP 5 NYPD= DOES CHECK WITH CCRB, EEO, IAB AND PERFORMANCE MON. UNIT

-- Edited by neverAgain on Tuesday 27th of March 2018 08:49:48 PM

-- Edited by neverAgain on Tuesday 27th of March 2018 08:55:37 PM

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Hey Neveragain does the list get relased when DCAS certifies it or after the job does background checks? 

-- Edited by Leslie on Tuesday 27th of March 2018 09:08:04 PM

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 once certified  its sent to the job and next step is checks

Samiam32 wrote:

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What are the 9/11 survivor points?

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 sorry doesn't count for promotional only open competitive

 

PD2FD wrote:

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neverAgain wrote:

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PD2FD wrote:

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brooklynbacon wrote:

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DRPapi1983 wrote:

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Whats lots of people got an 85% or better ? More than 100?

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 Almost 100 scored a 90 and up.

First class in may.

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 That's without all the points being added. Imagine when everything gets added in. At least the top 150 people will be 90 and above, MARK my words. People thought I was crazy when I said this months ago.

-- Edited by PD2FD on Tuesday 27th of March 2018 10:26:51 PM

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 i strongly agree to this about 150 to 180

not trying to brag i got a 92 and im get max2.0 for jst, 1.515 for medals, 2.5 vets and 4.8 for time

so i can image everybody else

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 My god !!! You'll probably be top 5 with that total score.

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 dont think im going to use the vet point hope next week dcas tells me my placement and if its good i will decline it and use it for the next test

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sorry for talking to much BUT I DID HEAR A LARGE NUMBER IF PPL ON THE LIST DIDNT HAVE ENOUGH TIME SO IT GOING TO BE ALOT OF JUMPING AROUND ON THIS LIST AND IM TALKING ABOUT MORE THAN 50% SOO IF YOUR IN THE LOW 80s DONT COUNT YOURSELF OUT

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 So lets take a survey so we can get an idea,..not sure how to make one up on here but it can be possible....score + statement indicating elegible as of now or as of (future date)

-- Edited by DRPapi1983 on Tuesday 27th of March 2018 11:17:46 PM

CHECK MAIN SCREEN JUST CREATED  A SURVEY

if youre considering takin the next captains exam, think about saving those 2.5 points. It looks like your sitting pretty already with your raw score and the other additions.

Save those Vet points!!!!

A civil service list can only be extended up to a maximum of four years in NYS.

BeefWithBroccoli wrote:

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Hey we made the news lol

https://www.thehairbagtimes.com/blog/2018/3/25/department-curves-promotional-exam-to-benefit-underrepresented-group-quality-leaders

 Also 1287 is a crazy pass rate ughhhh lots of people will be in the 90s.

-- Edited by BeefWithBroccoli on Wednesday 28th of March 2018 01:36:25 AM

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 Ha more like the quality of leardership is 70% or the population without the specializations of skills or educattional level of Manhattan or Queens which would be the equivalent otherwise in quality and morals  The equivalent in the Bronx would be less than 5% and in Brooklyn less than 15% (all about location) proximity to Park Slope, lower Manhattan!!! 

 

 

81mm wrote:

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Never again. I think once the list is established I dont think you can withdraw the vets points. Am I correct ?

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 Yes you can.  You can withdraw veteran's points anytime before you get promoted.

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So they would have to amend the list ?

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 They wouldn't amend the list, they'll just issue the person a new list # ending with .5.  The original list number would be skipped when they reached that #

Thanks for the info.

Cant help but to think if you were looking for a general idea of where you stand is to compare to 2006 exam. The curve will not make people jump over others at the top part of the list. Thats going to be a blood bath around the 70-75 area. Am I wrong to think like this?

Is there a confirmed number of throwouts? I read 6 then I read 8.

Darkman wrote:

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Spoke to my source....its over 200 people with a 95 or above...take it or leave it

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 I simply dont believe that. Maybe a 90+ but not between 95-100.  

MBREEZE wrote:

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Leslie wrote:

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redcons2 wrote:

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I know this is the first time the points are scaled so we might not know the answer. My question is about adding on military points, JST points, time in rank, etc. Do those points get added in before or after the scores are scaled?

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 After. The scaling applies to raw score. My question is whether the list of 1287 has the scaling alrealdy applied or is that pre-scaling because if its pre-scaling it could take a whole lot longer..

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 After.  The 1287 is the final list.  I also saw the list but didn't want to add that here. It did not have list numbers because all of the points are not done being added.  JST is done and Vets are coming up.  I can't speak on medals.  Once all of that is added then the list is sent back to DCAS to create the list numbers and then the OFFICIAL list with numbers is sent back to the department.  The department will then do the IAB and OEEO checks for promotions and a BMOC class will be made.  The rumor is end of April for Lt BMOC but don't be surprised if its in May.  When the Sgt list was published the IAB and OEEO checks took less than a week and the class went in the following week so you never know.  But for those looking for an actual number of Sgts on the list it is 1287. Before anyone starts talking about the list being cut,  there is no talk of cutting any promotional list.  DCAS will not administer another exam until the list is almost exhausted. If the 4 years is up and there are still ppl on the list, it will be extended.  This new process just sucks for those who are waiting to take the next Sgt, Lt or Cpt exam. 

-- Edited by MBREEZE on Tuesday 27th of March 2018 06:46:00 PM

-- Edited by MBREEZE on Tuesday 27th of March 2018 06:55:30 PM

 

Can anyone tell me how many promotional exams were extended in the last 20 years? Its a pretty easy answer...

 

The job will not run a list 6 years, not including the 1 year waiting for the list, just so people in the 60s will get promoted.

Having one ongoing promotional list for 7 years is insane and delusional and will never happen.