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Sgt Vacancies


So the guy who was #6 on our list, got promoted to sgt, and then resigned

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As of February 18, there are 135 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 77 on terminal leave.

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63ASAP wrote:

As of February 18, there are 135 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 77 on terminal leave.


 Through the first 7 weeks of 2019 weve picked up 18 new vacancies and 38 new terminals. Thats 56 sgts who have retired or are Running their time ( yes I know some people run their time and come back, or its a scam to get a certain day off). But if you expand that out over the course of a year thats 416 potential vacancies. ((52/7) x 56 = aprox 416) Will this trend remain consistent? Probably not. Theres nothing consistent about this whole process but also realize that is without a single person getting promoted to LT. If you consider 416 potential vacancies, plus LTs promotions, plus the vacancies that already exist, theres potential for a lot of promotions To Sgt.  And before someone replies that the LTs list slowed down, I did the same math for the LTs list too. If their 7 week trend continues they r looking at something like 150 potential vacancies. And thats with no one getting promoted to captain. Again full disclosure, this math is totally self serving because my list number is 1450-1470 depending which list you look at 



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63ASAP wrote:

As of February 18, there are 135 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 77 on terminal leave.


 Through the first 7 weeks of 2019 weve picked up 18 new vacancies and 38 new terminals. Thats 56 sgts who have retired or are Running their time ( yes I know some people run their time and come back, or its a scam to get a certain day off). But if you expand that out over the course of a year thats 416 potential vacancies. ((52/7) x 56 = aprox 416) Will this trend remain consistent? Probably not. Theres nothing consistent about this whole process but also realize that is without a single person getting promoted to LT. If you consider 416 potential vacancies, plus LTs promotions, plus the vacancies that already exist, theres potential for a lot of promotions To Sgt.  And before someone replies that the LTs list slowed down, I did the same math for the LTs list too. If their 7 week trend continues they r looking at something like 150 potential vacancies. And thats with no one getting promoted to captain. Again full disclosure, this math is totally self serving because my list number is 1450-1470 depending which list you look at 


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Anybody have word on the mentoring letters

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Bklynsouth3020 wrote:
63ASAP wrote:

As of February 18, there are 135 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 77 on terminal leave.


 Through the first 7 weeks of 2019 weve picked up 18 new vacancies and 38 new terminals. Thats 56 sgts who have retired or are Running their time ( yes I know some people run their time and come back, or its a scam to get a certain day off). But if you expand that out over the course of a year thats 416 potential vacancies. ((52/7) x 56 = aprox 416) Will this trend remain consistent? Probably not. Theres nothing consistent about this whole process but also realize that is without a single person getting promoted to LT. If you consider 416 potential vacancies, plus LTs promotions, plus the vacancies that already exist, theres potential for a lot of promotions To Sgt.  And before someone replies that the LTs list slowed down, I did the same math for the LTs list too. If their 7 week trend continues they r looking at something like 150 potential vacancies. And thats with no one getting promoted to captain. Again full disclosure, this math is totally self serving because my list number is 1450-1470 depending which list you look at 


 I actually would think there would be an increase in the vacancies and the logic behind that thought is that we are coming up to the 20 year anniversaries of the large classes. Granted people are staying longer then 20 year if theyve been promoted, bust some still do leave at 20. 



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For Det. Simonsen' funeral, I saw A LOT of Sgts and LTs with 5 hash marks or better. A lot. I cant see them staying much longer. And no I dont believe they were retired as they were clean shaven and with their fellow collar brass/people.

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yougonow wrote:

For Det. Simonsen' funeral, I saw A LOT of Sgts and LTs with 5 hash marks or better. A lot. I cant see them staying much longer. And no I dont believe they were retired as they were clean shaven and with their fellow collar brass/people.


 3rdtime and yougonow, I want you guys to be right in the worst way. But even I think that the math I posted above is wishful thinking. So far the vacancies / terminals for this year are promising, but its got to stay this way. I need double digit vacancies / terminals every update from 63asap



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If you 1470-1500 you are safe and have nothing to worry about. Im low 1800s and thats razors edge in my book. The way I see it I either make the last class or die on the list. Anyone over 2k can forget about it.



-- Edited by TransitCop on Thursday 28th of February 2019 02:37:51 AM

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Would anyone happen to know the current vacancy count ?

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As of March 4, there are 156 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 64 on terminal leave. This does not include today's promotions. That effectively brings it to ~84 vacancies (I counted 72 on the personnel order).



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So through the first 2 months of the year weve picked up 39 vacancies plus 25 terminals. 64 total

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Does anyone know how many vacancies we have ?

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As of March 18, there are 89 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 68 on terminal leave.

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Thank you so much 63 Asap,

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For what it's worth I counted 10 sgts and 4 Lts that appeared at the pension section to prepare for retirement most have dates between 4/30 and early June

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we should be getting vacancy update soon? 



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As of April 2, there are 118 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 57 on terminal leave.



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Although Ive generally been the voice of doom and gloom screaming that the sky is falling, through the first quarter of this year according to ASAPs updates there have been 91 new vacancies/ terminals. And thats without a single person getting promoted to LT in 2019. If those numbers keep up, plus just a respectable number of LT promotions, it should keep sgts promotions along historical averages. The overtime cap dropping from 40 to 30 is a total wild card because now retirement eligible sgts best years might be behind them. Sticking around only damages their pension.

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Any update on vacancies count ?

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Bklynsouth3020 wrote:

Although Ive generally been the voice of doom and gloom screaming that the sky is falling, through the first quarter of this year according to ASAPs updates there have been 91 new vacancies/ terminals. And thats without a single person getting promoted to LT in 2019. If those numbers keep up, plus just a respectable number of LT promotions, it should keep sgts promotions along historical averages. The overtime cap dropping from 40 to 30 is a total wild card because now retirement eligible sgts best years might be behind them. Sticking around only damages their pension.


 The vacancies are there but since there are no vacancies in the executive ranks...it is slowing things up...we need some guys to start retiring



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As of mid-April, there are 151 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 63 on terminal leave. Remember, this does not include the current BMOC class who will be promoted on May 3.

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I believe another group of Sgts will be retiring next month. We need to regain that momentum!!



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Picking up 33 vacancies and 6 terminals in 2 weeks I would say is gaining momentum. I believe that puts us at 130 new vacancies / terminals for the year. I believe on the same days as the sgts promotion is the LTs promotion so thatll be close to a wash

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151 vacancies minus the 49 in bmoc, thats 102. Hopefully those terminals flip. Guys really should take the buyout and keep it moving. Enjoy life!

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151 vacancies minus the 49 in bmoc, thats 102. Hopefully those terminals flip. Guys really should take the buyout and keep it moving. Enjoy life!


 Now add the 35 sgts getting promoted to LT, thats 137. 



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LTs get promoted up front. Do those numbers reflect that, or does it reflect post bmoc promotion ceremony?

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It reflects whats going to happen on May 3rd. 151 vacancies minus 49 getting promoted to Sgt plus 35 sgts getting promoted to LT. On May 4th there will be 137 vacancies

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It will be more than 137, because about 16 have 4/30 retirement dates

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Great now lets see if the powers to be put in 80 next class.

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As long as they consistently put in classes, im Happy!



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As of May 2, there are 149 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 65 on terminal leave. Remember, this does not include the May 3 promotions of 51. This effectively brings the vacancies to 98.

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Now i doubt a 80 class. Maybe 65 to 70

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Yea but then you have to add the 36 sgts who went to LT

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Sensei255 wrote:

Yea but then you have to add the 36 sgts who went to LT


 Yes, good point. I forgot to take that into account. So figure ~134 vacancies.



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Any word on vacancies?

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Any new sgt vacancies As of June?



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63asap is done. The new Lt mentoring went in and hes in that class. He doesnt have access to the vacancies anymore 



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Anyone else has access to those numbers?

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Dcas has cleared to list #800. That is typically good news.

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