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We understood what you meant.


No, you don't.  At no point did I say minorities or women recieved an unfair leg up on white guys.  It's purely a numbers game, whether it's % or pure volume.  Let's say for simplicity sake 500 non white men passed, and the job decided they wanted 800.  So they add 5 points to everybody's score and get the # they want, and in the process, 100 extra white guys pass.  Nobody is negatively affected.

I really don't think it's too hard to believe in the world we live in.  Sounds like you're just butthurt that I'm implying you passed when you might not have deserved to, but guess what, I didn't deserve to pass either in this scenario.  But I did!



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I'm not gonna be "happy I made the list" if I don't get promoted and I don't know why anybody would be. I would much rather just fail and know what I need to do than spend 4 years in limbo. It's gonna be very hard to motivate myself to study for and take a test that I might not even need to take.


 If you can't get promoted off of a 27 hundred person list, there is no one to blame but yourself. 



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What does that even mean? I passed the test, but a much larger list than usual means you are less likely to get promoted.

I'm starting to get embarassed that I scored lower than some of you guys.

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I'm starting to get embarassed that I scored lower than some of you guys.


 Then you should have studied harder. 



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I didn't study at all.

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But you decided to make an account here



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Yo you funny bigred

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HanginByAThread wrote:

BigRed, I think you forgot you are dealing with cops and adults in here. You sound like a effing idiot and need to shut the fvck up. Your claiming you didn't mean anything by it but are saying it was curved "so every race and gender, including white guys" can benefit from it.

If thats the effing case, why was it even necessary to bring up the "diversity" part ?

If its for "everyone" to benefit, then "diversity" shouldn't have been mentioned to begin with.

We understood what you meant.


 Arent you the guy who complained your friend passed you in score just because of seniority points and thats not fair. Then you went and deleted your post.



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I normally don't post a thing but this is getting wildly out of hand.. let me help you out with something. First off BIGRED?!, this test was not curved. And just so you know. A curved test is the exact opposite of this test. For example; over 10,000 cops took this test. And if only about 200 or less passed this test. Then a curve my be put in place. What that means is instead of 70 being the passing mark it would drop and the passing mark would be 57, THAT IS A CURVED TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this test was not curved and your proof is more then 500 people got a 85 or better. Even if there was 10 throw out question that's still more then 500 hundred people that passed with a 70.. (hence, NO CURVE NEEDED). 500 is the actual mark that DCAS NOT THE NYPD would need for any list to any test in the city. Second no matter how you cut it your comments still sound racist and stupid. I'm honestly not trying to knock you. But that something you should know. And last but not least. Take a step back and actually look at the NYPD.. it's already diverse test or not.. every race on this job signs up for this test. Some fail and some pass. The job didn't decide to just take the 2017 sgt and boost the grades for diversity. We already have diverse bosses. And we always will!!!!

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Red don't get caught up on job conspiracy. Your starting to sound like the people in this city that think the NYPD has the power to do anything.. and yeah it does make you look like a rookie

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Red if you dont get promoted off this list there will be another test in a few years and by then youll have some seniority thatll give You extra points. Look at the bright side.

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Red you didnt study thats the 2nd most common lie after saying you got a 69 and just missed it. So either you didnt study so you didnt want it so why you on here crying like a rookie with a hospitalized prisoner or you did study and just didnt do well. So which is it hot shot. did you pay For a class?



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True....i think reality will sink in for a lot of folks once the job only gets through 450ish names by the end of year. In the meantime, as I said in the beginning, start working on enhancing your resume...go to grad school, start working on a PhD, go to law school, get your detective shield, etc. If it doesnt pan out at least you have that to fall back on.

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brooklynbacon wrote:
HanginByAThread wrote:

BigRed, I think you forgot you are dealing with cops and adults in here. You sound like a effing idiot and need to shut the fvck up. Your claiming you didn't mean anything by it but are saying it was curved "so every race and gender, including white guys" can benefit from it.

If thats the effing case, why was it even necessary to bring up the "diversity" part ?

If its for "everyone" to benefit, then "diversity" shouldn't have been mentioned to begin with.

We understood what you meant.


 Arent you the guy who complained your friend passed you in score just because of seniority points and thats not fair. Then you went and deleted your post.


Good point brooklynbacon.   



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Well, like many have said here, just wait and see. Speculation will run rampant in here until the list is either exhausted or it expires. Who knows whats going to happen? The bottom line is, make other career moves, become a detective if you can, finish college, do something! Im in the bottom of this list and I know I might not make it, but that wont stop me from pursuing other opportunities including looking for a lateral transfer to another Dept. I wish everyone luck, but it is too soon to tell whats going to happen. 



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Theforceisstrongwiththisone wrote:

Too early to start thinking about that buddy. In the meantime try to become a detective, go get your masters/PhD/law degree..so even if it doesnt pan out you have something to fall back on.


 

And what investigative track unit would take someone now (without a hook) being on the sgts list?



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Too early to start thinking about that buddy. In the meantime try to become a detective, go get your masters/PhD/law degree..so even if it doesnt pan out you have something to fall back on.


 

And what investigative track unit would take someone now (without a hook) being on the sgts list?


 Those units that really need will end up picking up no matter if you're on the list or not.



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oh yeah those units. there are so many of them. if we could narrow it down...



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fiftyfouredp wrote:

oh yeah those units. there are so many of them. if we could narrow it down...


 Narcotics, Vice, Gangs, IAB..... 



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TooSucio4u wrote:
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oh yeah those units. there are so many of them. if we could narrow it down...


 Narcotics, Vice, Gangs, IAB..... 


 Maybe IAB would take you but I can gaurantee you Gang,Narco or Vice wont even entertain you 



-- Edited by BlastLivesMatter on Friday 5th of January 2018 10:28:16 PM

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Gang, Narco and Vice will def take you. The sqd will even take you. They are all hurting for people. 



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BlastLivesMatter wrote:
TooSucio4u wrote:
fiftyfouredp wrote:

oh yeah those units. there are so many of them. if we could narrow it down...


 Narcotics, Vice, Gangs, IAB..... 


 Maybe IAB would take you but I can gaurantee you Gang,Narco or Vice wont even entertain you 



-- Edited by BlastLivesMatter on Friday 5th of January 2018 10:28:16 PM


 Youre misinformed 



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He or She is very misinformed. Its coming from people who are speaking from first hand accounts.

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Missing the Bx wrote:

He or She is very misinformed. Its coming from people who are speaking from first hand accounts.


 Facts ! My investigator class of around 35 had 7 people on the list and some were even top 50 on the last list. They literally had to deferred promotion to get their shield and go to top pay. 



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Maybe its differrs from borough because Im telling you mine wouldnt. They know the person will shut down or just skate by.

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BlastLivesMatter wrote:

Maybe its differrs from borough because Im telling you mine wouldnt. They know the person will shut down or just skate by.


 investigator courses are citywide they dont have the training only per Borough. The application process has changed though and now you have to apply directly to the Borough you want to work for so that might change it up a bit but I dont see how some CO can say no to someone because theyre on a list.... thats taking almost 2700 potentials out. These units are hurting for guys so my advice is if you really want to do investigative work put in since you have nothing to lose if they say NO



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on a sidenote, would anyone happen to know how difficult it is to get into CIS or get a gold shield once your in the Highway Unit?

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Why would an ordinary highway cop get a detective promotion? Think logical my brother.

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i heard once Youre in highway you need to get into CTG in highway first and then into CIS Which is the squad, and then you get your shield from there. 



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Gotta do a year in CTG in Brooklyn for the training then you can go to CIS and do your 18 months to get the shield.

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Missing the Bx wrote:

Gang, Narco and Vice will def take you. The sqd will even take you. They are all hurting for people. 


 

Ya'll are delusional. Unless you have a hook, this is not happening.



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Bigred is probably right about the diversity of the list playing some role in its expansion. You're all extremely naive if you don't think this department would do such a thing.

Also lol at getting into a track unit while on a promotion list

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Thebirds wrote:

Bigred is probably right about the diversity of the list playing some role in its expansion. You're all extremely naive if you don't think this department would do such a thing.

Also lol at getting into a track unit while on a promotion list


 Hey you never know...especially if your at the end of the list...



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Is not like theres detectives in every Sgt class but ok..... look at their tax numbers and do the math maybe youll believe me then lol

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Plenty of ppl get to units while on list. Sometimes the dept likes it cause they can use you for investigative work and never give you a shield if it times out right. Way back when they used to pull ppl to Narco who were on the list that were getting promoted in 17 months. Because they figured they wouldnt **** up if they were on the list. The orders had a person get transferred to Narco in the am and assigned to bmoc in the pm.

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TooSucio4u wrote:

Is not like theres detectives in every Sgt class but ok..... look at their tax numbers and do the math maybe youll believe me then lol


 Oh, I do believe and have seen cops get pulled into investigative tracks with high tax numbers/on the list. I'm not doubting you there. The problem is for the 90% who don't have these options, and who wonder why they never heard back from a unit and call to find out that 3 years of 4.0's is the minimum tough luck patrolman.



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