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BigRed · Member

RE: Potential Cutoff

Bsbllpr2004 · Member

Bsbllpr2004 · Member

96Times6 · Senior Member

BigRed wrote:
I'm not gonna be "happy I made the list" if I don't get promoted and I don't know why anybody would be. I would much rather just fail and know what I need to do than spend 4 years in limbo. It's gonna be very hard to motivate myself to study for and take a test that I might not even need to take.

If you can't get promoted off of a 27 hundred person list, there is no one to blame but yourself.

BigRed · Member

What does that even mean? I passed the test, but a much larger list than usual means you are less likely to get promoted.

I'm starting to get embarassed that I scored lower than some of you guys.

96Times6 · Senior Member

BigRed wrote:

I'm starting to get embarassed that I scored lower than some of you guys.

Then you should have studied harder.

BigRed · Member

I didn't study at all.

2andDone · Veteran Member

But you decided to make an account here

Bsbllpr2004 · Member

Yo you funny bigred

brooklynbacon · Guru

HanginByAThread wrote:
BigRed, I think you forgot you are dealing with cops and adults in here. You sound like a effing idiot and need to shut the fvck up. Your claiming you didn't mean anything by it but are saying it was curved "so every race and gender, including white guys" can benefit from it.

If thats the effing case, why was it even necessary to bring up the "diversity" part ?

If its for "everyone" to benefit, then "diversity" shouldn't have been mentioned to begin with.

We understood what you meant.

Arent you the guy who complained your friend passed you in score just because of seniority points and thats not fair. Then you went and deleted your post.

Cmin7_9 · Veteran Member

I normally don't post a thing but this is getting wildly out of hand.. let me help you out with something. First off BIGRED?!, this test was not curved. And just so you know. A curved test is the exact opposite of this test. For example; over 10,000 cops took this test. And if only about 200 or less passed this test. Then a curve my be put in place. What that means is instead of 70 being the passing mark it would drop and the passing mark would be 57, THAT IS A CURVED TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this test was not curved and your proof is more then 500 people got a 85 or better. Even if there was 10 throw out question that's still more then 500 hundred people that passed with a 70.. (hence, NO CURVE NEEDED). 500 is the actual mark that DCAS NOT THE NYPD would need for any list to any test in the city. Second no matter how you cut it your comments still sound racist and stupid. I'm honestly not trying to knock you. But that something you should know. And last but not least. Take a step back and actually look at the NYPD.. it's already diverse test or not.. every race on this job signs up for this test. Some fail and some pass. The job didn't decide to just take the 2017 sgt and boost the grades for diversity. We already have diverse bosses. And we always will!!!!

Cmin7_9 · Veteran Member

Red don't get caught up on job conspiracy. Your starting to sound like the people in this city that think the NYPD has the power to do anything.. and yeah it does make you look like a rookie

TooSucio4u · Senior Member

Red if you dont get promoted off this list there will be another test in a few years and by then youll have some seniority thatll give You extra points. Look at the bright side.

Dirty30 · Veteran Member

Red you didnt study thats the 2nd most common lie after saying you got a 69 and just missed it. So either you didnt study so you didnt want it so why you on here crying like a rookie with a hospitalized prisoner or you did study and just didnt do well. So which is it hot shot. did you pay For a class?

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

True....i think reality will sink in for a lot of folks once the job only gets through 450ish names by the end of year. In the meantime, as I said in the beginning, start working on enhancing your resume...go to grad school, start working on a PhD, go to law school, get your detective shield, etc. If it doesnt pan out at least you have that to fall back on.

Foolmetwice · Veteran Member

brooklynbacon wrote:
HanginByAThread wrote:
BigRed, I think you forgot you are dealing with cops and adults in here. You sound like a effing idiot and need to shut the fvck up. Your claiming you didn't mean anything by it but are saying it was curved "so every race and gender, including white guys" can benefit from it.

If thats the effing case, why was it even necessary to bring up the "diversity" part ?

If its for "everyone" to benefit, then "diversity" shouldn't have been mentioned to begin with.

We understood what you meant.
Arent you the guy who complained your friend passed you in score just because of seniority points and thats not fair. Then you went and deleted your post.

Good point brooklynbacon.

120chauncey · Newbie

Well, like many have said here, just wait and see. Speculation will run rampant in here until the list is either exhausted or it expires. Who knows whats going to happen? The bottom line is, make other career moves, become a detective if you can, finish college, do something! Im in the bottom of this list and I know I might not make it, but that wont stop me from pursuing other opportunities including looking for a lateral transfer to another Dept. I wish everyone luck, but it is too soon to tell whats going to happen.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

Theforceisstrongwiththisone wrote:
Too early to start thinking about that buddy. In the meantime try to become a detective, go get your masters/PhD/law degree..so even if it doesnt pan out you have something to fall back on.

And what investigative track unit would take someone now (without a hook) being on the sgts list?

TooSucio4u · Senior Member

fiftyfouredp wrote:
Theforceisstrongwiththisone wrote:
Too early to start thinking about that buddy. In the meantime try to become a detective, go get your masters/PhD/law degree..so even if it doesnt pan out you have something to fall back on.

And what investigative track unit would take someone now (without a hook) being on the sgts list?

Those units that really need will end up picking up no matter if you're on the list or not.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

oh yeah those units. there are so many of them. if we could narrow it down...

TooSucio4u · Senior Member

fiftyfouredp wrote:
oh yeah those units. there are so many of them. if we could narrow it down...

Narcotics, Vice, Gangs, IAB.....

BlastLivesMatter · Senior Member

TooSucio4u wrote:
fiftyfouredp wrote:
oh yeah those units. there are so many of them. if we could narrow it down...
Narcotics, Vice, Gangs, IAB.....

Maybe IAB would take you but I can gaurantee you Gang,Narco or Vice wont even entertain you

-- Edited by BlastLivesMatter on Friday 5th of January 2018 10:28:16 PM

Missing the Bx · Veteran Member

Gang, Narco and Vice will def take you. The sqd will even take you. They are all hurting for people.

TooSucio4u · Senior Member

BlastLivesMatter wrote:
TooSucio4u wrote:
fiftyfouredp wrote:
oh yeah those units. there are so many of them. if we could narrow it down...
Narcotics, Vice, Gangs, IAB.....
Maybe IAB would take you but I can gaurantee you Gang,Narco or Vice wont even entertain you

-- Edited by BlastLivesMatter on Friday 5th of January 2018 10:28:16 PM

Youre misinformed

Missing the Bx · Veteran Member

He or She is very misinformed. Its coming from people who are speaking from first hand accounts.

TooSucio4u · Senior Member

Missing the Bx wrote:
He or She is very misinformed. Its coming from people who are speaking from first hand accounts.

Facts ! My investigator class of around 35 had 7 people on the list and some were even top 50 on the last list. They literally had to deferred promotion to get their shield and go to top pay.

BlastLivesMatter · Senior Member

Maybe its differrs from borough because Im telling you mine wouldnt. They know the person will shut down or just skate by.

TooSucio4u · Senior Member

BlastLivesMatter wrote:
Maybe its differrs from borough because Im telling you mine wouldnt. They know the person will shut down or just skate by.

investigator courses are citywide they dont have the training only per Borough. The application process has changed though and now you have to apply directly to the Borough you want to work for so that might change it up a bit but I dont see how some CO can say no to someone because theyre on a list.... thats taking almost 2700 potentials out. These units are hurting for guys so my advice is if you really want to do investigative work put in since you have nothing to lose if they say NO

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

on a sidenote, would anyone happen to know how difficult it is to get into CIS or get a gold shield once your in the Highway Unit?

yougonow · Guru

Why would an ordinary highway cop get a detective promotion? Think logical my brother.

Arrow · Senior Member

i heard once Youre in highway you need to get into CTG in highway first and then into CIS Which is the squad, and then you get your shield from there.

TooSucio4u · Senior Member

Gotta do a year in CTG in Brooklyn for the training then you can go to CIS and do your 18 months to get the shield.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

Missing the Bx wrote:
Gang, Narco and Vice will def take you. The sqd will even take you. They are all hurting for people.

Ya'll are delusional. Unless you have a hook, this is not happening.

Thebirds · Senior Member

Bigred is probably right about the diversity of the list playing some role in its expansion. You're all extremely naive if you don't think this department would do such a thing.

Also lol at getting into a track unit while on a promotion list

Sunrise · Senior Member

Thebirds wrote:
Bigred is probably right about the diversity of the list playing some role in its expansion. You're all extremely naive if you don't think this department would do such a thing.

Also lol at getting into a track unit while on a promotion list

Hey you never know...especially if your at the end of the list...

TooSucio4u · Senior Member

Is not like theres detectives in every Sgt class but ok..... look at their tax numbers and do the math maybe youll believe me then lol

Dirty30 · Veteran Member

Plenty of ppl get to units while on list. Sometimes the dept likes it cause they can use you for investigative work and never give you a shield if it times out right. Way back when they used to pull ppl to Narco who were on the list that were getting promoted in 17 months. Because they figured they wouldnt **** up if they were on the list. The orders had a person get transferred to Narco in the am and assigned to bmoc in the pm.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

TooSucio4u wrote:
Is not like theres detectives in every Sgt class but ok..... look at their tax numbers and do the math maybe youll believe me then lol

Oh, I do believe and have seen cops get pulled into investigative tracks with high tax numbers/on the list. I'm not doubting you there. The problem is for the 90% who don't have these options, and who wonder why they never heard back from a unit and call to find out that 3 years of 4.0's is the minimum tough luck patrolman.