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5 papers + 1 withdrawal 4 toto 7/9

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1 paper 7-10

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Can we get a updated number

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Jibberjab wrote:

Can we get a updated number


 no joke.. Terminal must be near 100 and vacancies in the 50s-60s



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100% no doubt vacancies are peaking 150 with who knows how many terminals. It is approaching 200 at the very least combined.

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100% no doubt vacancies are peaking 150 with who knows how many terminals. It is approaching 200 at the very least combined.


 Any chance in hell they promote end of july or end of August?



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100% no doubt vacancies are peaking 150 with who knows how many terminals. It is approaching 200 at the very least combined.


 Any chance in hell they promote end of july or end of August?


 Considering they just sent PA staff to allout probably not. 



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 no joke.. Terminal must be near 100 and vacancies in the 50s-60s


 Vacancies are definitely closer to 200 with terminals.  If and when they start promoting the classes should be decent sizes. 



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3 papers 7/13



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Papers dont equal vacancies.

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Papers dont equal vacancies.


 theyll mostly likely lead to terminal which will most likely lead to vacancies.. If they get pulled i

make a notation 



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2 Lts 7/14

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rumor is Vacancies at 61 after manpower adjustments made

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rookiebit_h wrote:

rumor is Vacancies at 61 after manpower adjustments made


 the pending terminals should skyrocket this #



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After July the vacancies should have been well or even close to 200. How is there only 61 vacancies ? What adjustments are you referring to?confuse



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After July the vacancies should have been well or even close to 200. How is there only 61 vacancies ? What adjustments are you referring to?confuse


 Diblasio adjustments 



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I don't know what that mean ? Diblasio adjustments? Who did remove around?



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I don't know what that mean ? Diblasio adjustments? Who did remove around?


 hes referring to the dept attempting to adjust the headcount from 36k to 34k, but his #s still dont make total sense due to the fact that the reduction in headcount was supposed to slowly take place over a period of time and not immediately 



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Someone has too much time on their hands.

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I just don't understand with the amount of Lt's putting there papers in and that are on terminal, the amount by Aug 1 should be around or over 200 vaccines. How did you come up with only 61??? Units that got disbanded, those people were asked to pick a command and most if not all just retired. So don't know how your coming up with these totals.

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I just don't understand with the amount of Lt's putting there papers in and that are on terminal, the amount by Aug 1 should be around or over 200 vaccines. How did you come up with only 61??? Units that got disbanded, those people were asked to pick a command and most if not all just retired. So don't know how your coming up with these totals.


 61 vacancies and 77 on terminal .. 



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Thats after the adjusted required amount for the rank? 



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Thats after the adjusted required amount for the rank? 


 correct



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Im not sure where the numbers regarding adjustments are coming from since the authorized headcount has not changed to this point. I believe it will be changing over time but as of now the October academy class was a not even cancelled.

As of 7/15:

Vacancies - 74

Terminal- 109

 



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Im not sure where the numbers regarding adjustments are coming from since the authorized headcount has not changed to this point. I believe it will be changing over time but as of now the October academy class was a not even cancelled.

As of 7/15:

Vacancies - 74

Terminal- 109

 


do you happen to have the #s for other ranks? thanks 



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No one cares of other ranks

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Who is right? RBJ or Rookie?!

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RBJ5154 wrote:

Im not sure where the numbers regarding adjustments are coming from since the authorized headcount has not changed to this point. I believe it will be changing over time but as of now the October academy class was a not even cancelled.

As of 7/15:

Vacancies - 74

Terminal- 109

 


 



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Im not sure where the numbers regarding adjustments are coming from since the authorized headcount has not changed to this point. I believe it will be changing over time but as of now the October academy class was a not even cancelled.

As of 7/15:

Vacancies - 74

Terminal- 109

 


 you were saying..



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rookiebit_h wrote:
RBJ5154 wrote:

Im not sure where the numbers regarding adjustments are coming from since the authorized headcount has not changed to this point. I believe it will be changing over time but as of now the October academy class was a not even cancelled.

As of 7/15:

Vacancies - 74

Terminal- 109

 


 you were saying..


 I only posted correct numbers. They obviously dont account for the change in authorized headcount which is still ongoing. The lowering of manpower by 2,000 doesnt occur overnight. It still wont ultimately lower the vacancy account significantly. Keep in mind the current plan is still to have an academy class starting in October.



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rumor is Vacancies at 61 after manpower adjustments made


 That statement most likely is false.  Vacancies in the Dept budget have nothing to do with vacancies available in the Dept based on assignments being filled in commands/details. Vacancies have to do with how many spots are slotted for the position by the budgeT. The number is set by the Dept at the beginning of each fiscal year, most of the time going unadjusted.  That rumor I believe is most likely incorrect.  



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RBJ5154 wrote:
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RBJ5154 wrote:

Im not sure where the numbers regarding adjustments are coming from since the authorized headcount has not changed to this point. I believe it will be changing over time but as of now the October academy class was a not even cancelled.

As of 7/15:

Vacancies - 74

Terminal- 109

 


 you were saying..


 I only posted correct numbers. They obviously dont account for the change in authorized headcount which is still ongoing. The lowering of manpower by 2,000 doesnt occur overnight. It still wont ultimately lower the vacancy account significantly. Keep in mind the current plan is still to have an academy class starting in October.


 Correct   There will absolutely be 200 Vacancies soon which will need to be filled.  Those terminals become vacant in the rank which also means in the budget.  The budget is still slotted for them for the 2021 fiscal year because they are still paying them.  They will be promotable spots very soon.   The head count being diminished in my opinion has much more to do with new hires.   Less to do with supervisory ranks For the immediate time. 



-- Edited by Semp1 on Friday 17th of July 2020 01:40:54 AM

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Semp1 wrote:
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rumor is Vacancies at 61 after manpower adjustments made


 That statement most likely is false.  Vacancies in the Dept budget have nothing to do with vacancies available in the Dept based on assignments being filled in commands/details. Vacancies have to do with how many spots are slotted for the position by the budgeT. The number is set by the Dept at the beginning of each fiscal year, most of the time going unadjusted.  That rumor I believe is most likely incorrect.  


 so ur saying due to the budget crises the budget vacancies have plummeted?



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Semp1 wrote:
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rumor is Vacancies at 61 after manpower adjustments made


 . Vacancies have to do with how many spots are slotted for the position by the budgeT. The number is set by the Dept at the beginning of each fiscal year, most of the time going unadjusted.    


 logically thinking it will be adjusted this time. Dont forget City Halls famous motto when it comes to us We can do more with less

moreover units are thrown on the chopping block, supervisors getting transferred decreasing shortages on patrol. Yes, we will have 200+ vacancies but dont expect 200+ new promotion  not anytime soon



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rumor is Vacancies at 61 after manpower adjustments made


 That statement most likely is false.  Vacancies in the Dept budget have nothing to do with vacancies available in the Dept based on assignments being filled in commands/details. Vacancies have to do with how many spots are slotted for the position by the budgeT. The number is set by the Dept at the beginning of each fiscal year, most of the time going unadjusted.  That rumor I believe is most likely incorrect.  


 so ur saying due to the budget crises the budget vacancies have plummeted?


 Im saying the budget vacancies for rank of LT have not changed for now.  The vacancies are there still.  



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rumor is Vacancies at 61 after manpower adjustments made


 . Vacancies have to do with how many spots are slotted for the position by the budgeT. The number is set by the Dept at the beginning of each fiscal year, most of the time going unadjusted.    


 logically thinking it will be adjusted this time. Dont forget City Halls famous motto when it comes to us We can do more with less

moreover units are thrown on the chopping block, supervisors getting transferred decreasing shortages on patrol. Yes, we will have 200+ vacancies but dont expect 200+ new promotion  not anytime soon


 Supervisor ranks budgeted figures have to do with how many Officers there are.  That number hasnt changed drastically and the budget for 2021 should not have either in regards to vacant spots for Sgt/LT/Capt. We shall see if this is true I assume in the very near future.  Right now its just guess work.

 



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I hear from the fraternal meeting today it was said no promotions July and August.

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7/20 - 7 papers

7/21 - 4 papers

7/22 - 2 papers

7/24- 5 papers

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7/27 3

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7/28 7 in 1 out total 6

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7/28 7 in 1 out total 6


 Does that bring us to about 210 total?



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When you are doing these numbers you doing it with effective date for 7/27? Or by how many put papers in on that day?



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When you are doing these numbers you doing it with effective date for 7/27? Or by how many put papers in on that day?


 im doing it by the date of the daily sheet log 



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7 papers in 1 pulled out

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Thats 33 in 10 days! :)

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Nypdnypd3100 wrote:

Thats 33 in 10 days! :)


 unbelievable  arent there only 12-1400 Lts   Were almost at 200vacancies   Almost 16% of the rank



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I would go too if I had 20 years. As always, thanks for intel.

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Thats 33 in 10 days! :)


 unbelievable  arent there only 12-1400 Lts   Were almost at 200vacancies   Almost 16% of the rank


 I feel like there is more than 200 at this point.



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Im sure theres a few sergeants that passed the Lts exam who just retired as well. 



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I agree, wish I had a head count of those sgt's no



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