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dantesparadise · Member

LT Vacancy

brooklynbacon · Guru

Very interesting. Thanks.

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

brooklynbacon wrote:
Very interesting. Thanks.

Bacon you are starting to sound more and more like dr.papi i.e., "the end is near," "good luck to all," "very interesting." Could bacon and dr.papi be one in the same?! Einhorn is finkle and finkle is einhorn!

63ASAP · Guru

As of December 4th, there are 44 lieutenant vacancies, and an additional 13 on terminal leave.

Rumblings are a February/March list release in tandem with the Captain's list. Nothing concrete, nothing 100%, just a recent rumor but from what I would call an "above average" source...so take it for what it's worth. Curious if anyone has heard the same. Good sign on the vacancies, though.

-- Edited by 63ASAP on Wednesday 6th of December 2017 10:39:28 PM

-- Edited by 63ASAP on Wednesday 6th of December 2017 10:41:27 PM

Oooh-yeah · Senior Member

63ASAP wrote:
As of December 4th, there are 44 lieutenant vacancies, and an additional 13 on terminal leave.

Rumblings are a February/March list release in tandem with the Captain's list. Nothing concrete, nothing 100%, just a recent rumor but from what I would call an "above average" source...so take it for what it's worth. Curious if anyone has heard the same. Good sign on the vacancies, though.

-- Edited by 63ASAP on Wednesday 6th of December 2017 10:39:28 PM

-- Edited by 63ASAP on Wednesday 6th of December 2017 10:41:27 PM

Thanks for the info brother! Hope youre right

brooklynbacon · Guru

Im hearing the sgts list is currently in the puzzle palace and will be released this month and the lt list will be released april may with a may class.

JustWonderin · Guru

Theforceisstrongwiththisone wrote:
brooklynbacon wrote:
Very interesting. Thanks.
Bacon you are starting to sound more and more like dr.papi i.e., "the end is near," "good luck to all," "very interesting." Could bacon and dr.papi be one in the same?! Einhorn is finkle and finkle is einhorn!

Thats hilarious. I think DRPAPI finally took the hint, hes been quiet. Thank god

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

As of 12/31...44

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

Clearly the vacancies havent changed in the month. We need an active capt list to help us out. Everyone must come to the reality that the job is getting younger and 25 is the new 20. I mean would you retire if you were a 20 year Lt in some cushy admin spot?! Hell what if you made LSA?!

PD2FD · Guru

Theforceisstrongwiththisone wrote:
As of 12/31...44

You are almost as informative as the legendary ondeeair...keep us posted with those vacancy numbers.

I'm hoping by February/March we have a clearer understanding as to when our list is established.

yougonow · Guru

What is the average monthly vacancy?

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

The average monthly vacancy doesnt tell you anything...maybe 8 or 10 a month on avg. But most people leave right b4 the summer in apr/may or end of the year.

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

With an active Capt list and retirements an avg number is 220 or so Lts a year. Thats why everyone is saying anything over 1,000 on the proposed list is shaky ground. We have to wait and see.

Jibberjab · Senior Member

Entire lt thread is dead. People still hearing April? Do sgts still need to take the test?

3yrWonder · Senior Member

Someone in the current Sgts BMOC said that they mentioned the job was short around 100 Lt's. I don't know how true that is but I'm sure someone here has the ability to look into it...

PD2FD · Guru

3yrWonder wrote:
Someone in the current Sgts BMOC said that they mentioned the job was short around 100 Lt's. I don't know how true that is but I'm sure someone here has the ability to look into it...

How is that the case when Ondeeair said we had 44 vacancies as of 12/31 ? I hope the 100 # is true but it doesn't make much sense.

3yrWonder · Senior Member

PD2FD wrote:
3yrWonder wrote:
Someone in the current Sgts BMOC said that they mentioned the job was short around 100 Lt's. I don't know how true that is but I'm sure someone here has the ability to look into it...
How is that the case when Ondeeair said we had 44 vacancies as of 12/31 ? I hope the 100 # is true but it doesn't make much sense.

Never said it was the case or true. Just repeating what was apparently told to the guys in the current BMOC. Maybe someone else knows someone in the current BMOC who heard the same thing. Better yet someone posted a picture of the list of vacancies, maybe theres an updated one. The Lts are due for 1 more raise this year, I personally think more guys will look to leave at the end of the contract in 2019, thus creating a larger than normal amount of vacancies.

-- Edited by 3yrWonder on Tuesday 16th of January 2018 08:44:20 AM

Leslie · Guru

3yrWonder wrote:
PD2FD wrote:
3yrWonder wrote:
Someone in the current Sgts BMOC said that they mentioned the job was short around 100 Lt's. I don't know how true that is but I'm sure someone here has the ability to look into it...
How is that the case when Ondeeair said we had 44 vacancies as of 12/31 ? I hope the 100 # is true but it doesn't make much sense.
Never said it was the case or true. Just repeating what was apparently told to the guys in the current BMOC. Maybe someone else knows someone in the current BMOC who heard the same thing. Better yet someone posted a picture of the list of vacancies, maybe theres an updated one. The Lts are due for 1 more raise this year, I personally think more guys will look to leave at the end of the contract in 2019, thus creating the more vacancies needed.

-- Edited by 3yrWonder on Tuesday 16th of January 2018 04:01:33 AM

Thanks for the info. I appreciate it! Please keep us posted if anything else comes up

PD2FD · Guru

If only someone can post the updated Its vacancies

63ASAP · Guru

As of January 2, there are 51 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 14 on terminal leave.

As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots. It's just the authorized headcount.

PD2FD · Guru

Thanks for the update 63ASAP

Jibberjab · Senior Member

What have the avg lt class sizes been

Zeph · Senior Member

I would say 30

2andDone · Veteran Member

Shocking that people still choose to run terminal leave with the cash payout option to waive it... Last exam which was unlike any other, had a large gap of promotions from the previous exam so correct me if im wrong, they did back to back classes ( 2 weeks / 2 weeks ) of 50 to fill vacancies. A good assumption would be roughly 30 on normal conditions.

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

These Lt vacancies are crawlingggg

we need an active capt list to help us out and get this thing moving. Maybe there will be more retirements with the sound round of shakeups that the PC was talking about.

63ASAP · Guru

63ASAP wrote:
As of January 2, there are 51 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 14 on terminal leave.

As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots. It's just the authorized headcount.

Got a mid-month update. As of January 16, there are 52 vacancies and 17 on terminal leave.

PD2FD · Guru

63ASAP wrote:
63ASAP wrote:
As of January 2, there are 51 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 14 on terminal leave.

As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots. It's just the authorized headcount.
Got a mid-month update. As of January 16, there are 52 vacancies and 17 on terminal leave.

Seems like a lot of Lts are being moved with the new regime in place. My command alone is losing 3 LTs to units. Maybe that's a sign that our list will come out soon.

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

So it looks like we are up to 61 vac...things are picking up...which is great news..the end is near!

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

Whats the total number including terminal. Im assuming the 61 is just vacancies.

sig226 · Senior Member

Usually 10+ on terminal

63ASAP · Guru

As of February 2, there are 65 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 9 on terminal leave.

As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots. It's just the authorized headcount.

yougonow · Guru

What happened to the 100vor so vacancies people were talking about?

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

It should be well over 100 by the time the list finally comes out.

yougonow · Guru

this 100 vacancy hoopla has been going around for a couple months now. this looks like a slow dying list already. come on old timers, get out already. lol

Winning25 · Veteran Member

A lot of young blood in the rank additionally the whole 25 is the new 20 slogan isn't helpful.

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

An active captains list with a rumored 250-300 will help push this list over the course of the next 4 years.

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

63ASAP on the air with mid month vacancies and terminal numbers?

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

Does anyone have updated vacancies and terminal numbers as of March. Its been a month since the last update.

Brian Earl Spilner · Veteran Member

69

63ASAP · Guru

Hey guys, sorry for the delay. I've been real busy lately. FYI- I see the monthly numbers, but don't have access to mid-month data.

As of March 2nd, there are 71 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 9 on terminal leave. As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots. It's just the authorized headcount.

Leslie · Guru

Yo yo yo! When da list coming out?!? I needs a transfer brotha

Brian Earl Spilner · Veteran Member

Tomorrow

Leslie · Guru

Can we get an update on vacancies?

HeetMiser · Member

85

wacek3 · Newbie

Any update? # of vacancies and on terminal?

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

wacek3 wrote:
Any update? # of vacancies and on terminal?

Vacancies?! Really bro...this is the least of our worries at this time. With DCAS up to their old tricks I think we need to worry about things being held up!

Leslie · Guru

Theforceisstrongwiththisone wrote:
wacek3 wrote:
Any update? # of vacancies and on terminal?
Vacancies?! Really bro...this is the least of our worries at this time. With DCAS up to their old tricks I think we need to worry about things being held up!

Weak are you

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

Since supposedly 1/2 of the list is not eligible yet and a lot of vacancies, will the 1st class be 30 LTs or 85 as stated by HeetMiser?

fodx · Guru

Regardless of vacancies they havn't promoted Lieutenants in 6 months, and that's WITH an already active list of people waiting. Even with a list coming out it doesn't mean anything if theyre not promoting Lieutenants. But that's not such a bad thing because it means you keep your chart days that much longer.

Leslie · Guru

fodx wrote:
Regardless of vacancies they havn't promoted Lieutenants in 6 months, and that's WITH an already active list of people waiting. Even with a list coming out it doesn't mean anything if theyre not promoting Lieutenants. But that's not such a bad thing because it means you keep your chart days that much longer.

2015 has been exhausted. Last man on the list is promoted look him up in the directory Lt in the 48. Only passpvers are left which means nothing. When youre a passover they key is to get promoted before the last person on your list... chances after that are slim and will most likely not get made. 2015 is pretty much done period Passovers are 17 people