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Everyone will get made relax. The contract ends in may of 2018 a lot of lts Retiring. They are already 60 short by the time list comes out they will be 200 short. Dont listen to these 5 year losers that passed and will walk around shook with a white shirt and call a captain for everything. All will get made.
Damn let that man enjoy his passing grade #outofourhandsnow
Phi, the hate doesnt surprise me anymore...after how the 100 haters came after the 9 heroes on the 2015 exam..we are our worst enemy. People enjoy hating other people...just like they love hating those kappas lol.
BrooklynBacon, that is some accurate information. This is the best list to compare to. It lasted a full 4 years from the date of first hire. They were able to promote 756. This is why I say I would feel good being in the top 650. Top 750 probably safe. After that you should probably study again. There's only 1700 plus LTs on the job. How many do you think are really going to retire in a 4 year span? If your list number is around 1000, you would literally need 60 percent of the rank or so to retire. That is not happening. They slightly over promoted to just get to that 756 number. I'm not writing this to make anyone feel good or bad, it's just to provide some possible outcomes.
What satisfaction do people get from saying people will not get promoted and raining on peoples parade just let it happen no one knows. All the damn breakdowns and comparisons are bull**** the job and city does what ever they want to do. If someone told you 5 years ago about the NCO program everyone would have said it will never happen now look. Stop with the negative **** and put up good intel or just keep your bs comments to yourself. #tc
What satisfaction do people get from saying people will not get promoted and raining on peoples parade just let it happen no one knows. All the damn breakdowns and comparisons are bull**** the job and city does what ever they want to do. If someone told you 5 years ago about the NCO program everyone would have said it will never happen now look. Stop with the negative **** and put up good intel or just keep your bs comments to yourself. #tc
I dont know about you but im curious where i would fall and how long it would take me to get promoted.
You cant compare this list to the 2014 or even 2011 as those were truly unique and disgusting tests.
If the rumor 1050 is true, realistically 1100 with make ups, then our numbers and where we fall would be close.
It has nothing to do with poking fun of people. But its crazy a 75 would put you top 1000.
Absolutely has to do with people think they are better because they got a higher score still cant compare this job or list from a list from 11 years ago very different job and climate now.
If the list is 1100 names, I really don't see how the job can promote that many Lieutenants over 4 years. There's really no way to know 100% when or where the cut will happen, but of course it's gonna depend on retirements and how quickly promotions to Captain move along, and how the breakdown of the scores falls, like whether or not its a top-heavy list(which it sounds like it is).... But really, like it's been said over and over, there's only 1700 Lt's in the Dept. No way will a thousand or more retire by 2021/22. I personally have a good friend who didn't study because he's in a very nice place where he gets 40 hours a month, weekends off and the probability of getting SA pay, but decided to take the test because what the hell it's a day off... And he pulled upper 70's. I guess anything is possible, but if this list turns out to be 1100+, I think it may be a good idea to start to mentally prepare yourself for the possibility of not making it and continue on with furthering your career within the rank of Sgt, and/or wait for the next exam in a few years.
If the captain exam is a fair one could have close to 300 on it and add 750 Lt retirement in 4 years seems about right
You could find out. Whats the average rate of Captain promotions and retirements per year? Average rate of Lt's is 200 per year about promoted, how many retire per year on average? That's probably tougher to find out.. But, it could be figured out... Again, it would still just be an average and no one really knows what future promotions/retirements will look like...
Then again, the 60-80 Capt promotions per year and retirement numbers would already be included within the 200 Lt per year promotion average... So I don't think finding these things out would make any difference.
-- Edited by que1999 on Wednesday 1st of November 2017 08:50:33 PM
If the list is 1100 names, I really don't see how the job can promote that many Lieutenants over 4 years. There's really no way to know 100% when or where the cut will happen, but of course it's gonna depend on retirements and how quickly promotions to Captain move along, and how the breakdown of the scores falls, like whether or not its a top-heavy list(which it sounds like it is).... But really, like it's been said over and over, there's only 1700 Lt's in the Dept. No way will a thousand or more retire by 2021/22. I personally have a good friend who didn't study because he's in a very nice place where he gets 40 hours a month, weekends off and the probability of getting SA pay, but decided to take the test because what the hell it's a day off... And he pulled upper 70's. I guess anything is possible, but if this list turns out to be 1100+, I think it may be a good idea to start to mentally prepare yourself for the possibility of not making it and continue on with furthering your career within the rank of Sgt, and/or wait for the next exam in a few years.
Very reasonable post.
And it seems like people who studied got an 80+. People who studied a little or half assed it got in the 70s. I could see this being very similar to the 2006 with a 80 being the top half.
If the list is 1100 names, I really don't see how the job can promote that many Lieutenants over 4 years. There's really no way to know 100% when or where the cut will happen, but of course it's gonna depend on retirements and how quickly promotions to Captain move along, and how the breakdown of the scores falls, like whether or not its a top-heavy list(which it sounds like it is).... But really, like it's been said over and over, there's only 1700 Lt's in the Dept. No way will a thousand or more retire by 2021/22. I personally have a good friend who didn't study because he's in a very nice place where he gets 40 hours a month, weekends off and the probability of getting SA pay, but decided to take the test because what the hell it's a day off... And he pulled upper 70's. I guess anything is possible, but if this list turns out to be 1100+, I think it may be a good idea to start to mentally prepare yourself for the possibility of not making it and continue on with furthering your career within the rank of Sgt, and/or wait for the next exam in a few years.
Very reasonable post.
And it seems like people who studied got an 80+. People who studied a little or half assed it got in the 70s. I could see this being very similar to the 2006 with a 80 being the top half.
Lets see how soon they will establish this list ,..are we over in Lts? Or are we under? Does anyone know?
If the list is 1100 names, I really don't see how the job can promote that many Lieutenants over 4 years. There's really no way to know 100% when or where the cut will happen, but of course it's gonna depend on retirements and how quickly promotions to Captain move along, and how the breakdown of the scores falls, like whether or not its a top-heavy list(which it sounds like it is).... But really, like it's been said over and over, there's only 1700 Lt's in the Dept. No way will a thousand or more retire by 2021/22. I personally have a good friend who didn't study because he's in a very nice place where he gets 40 hours a month, weekends off and the probability of getting SA pay, but decided to take the test because what the hell it's a day off... And he pulled upper 70's. I guess anything is possible, but if this list turns out to be 1100+, I think it may be a good idea to start to mentally prepare yourself for the possibility of not making it and continue on with furthering your career within the rank of Sgt, and/or wait for the next exam in a few years.
Very reasonable post.
And it seems like people who studied got an 80+. People who studied a little or half assed it got in the 70s. I could see this being very similar to the 2006 with a 80 being the top half.
Lets see how soon they will establish this list ,..are we over in Lts? Or are we under? Does anyone know?
I heard we were down like 20 and 9 just retired yesterday.
The main reason the 2006 list was cut was because of the economy . When the market crashed down to 6000 or so and Lts were not retiring. The housing market collapsed and it wasnt a good time to retire. I got an 80 on that test and it took over 5 years to get made. I think as long as the economy dont **** the bed like it did in 2007-2008 this whole list will be made
If the list is 1100 names, I really don't see how the job can promote that many Lieutenants over 4 years. There's really no way to know 100% when or where the cut will happen, but of course it's gonna depend on retirements and how quickly promotions to Captain move along, and how the breakdown of the scores falls, like whether or not its a top-heavy list(which it sounds like it is).... But really, like it's been said over and over, there's only 1700 Lt's in the Dept. No way will a thousand or more retire by 2021/22. I personally have a good friend who didn't study because he's in a very nice place where he gets 40 hours a month, weekends off and the probability of getting SA pay, but decided to take the test because what the hell it's a day off... And he pulled upper 70's. I guess anything is possible, but if this list turns out to be 1100+, I think it may be a good idea to start to mentally prepare yourself for the possibility of not making it and continue on with furthering your career within the rank of Sgt, and/or wait for the next exam in a few years.
Very reasonable post.
And it seems like people who studied got an 80+. People who studied a little or half assed it got in the 70s. I could see this being very similar to the 2006 with a 80 being the top half.
Lets see how soon they will establish this list ,..are we over in Lts? Or are we under? Does anyone know?
I heard we were down like 20 and 9 just retired yesterday.
Cool. I heard they want to establish This list ASAP!!,..after protest session and TVB of course ,..can anyone confirm???
If the list is 1100 names, I really don't see how the job can promote that many Lieutenants over 4 years. There's really no way to know 100% when or where the cut will happen, but of course it's gonna depend on retirements and how quickly promotions to Captain move along, and how the breakdown of the scores falls, like whether or not its a top-heavy list(which it sounds like it is).... But really, like it's been said over and over, there's only 1700 Lt's in the Dept. No way will a thousand or more retire by 2021/22. I personally have a good friend who didn't study because he's in a very nice place where he gets 40 hours a month, weekends off and the probability of getting SA pay, but decided to take the test because what the hell it's a day off... And he pulled upper 70's. I guess anything is possible, but if this list turns out to be 1100+, I think it may be a good idea to start to mentally prepare yourself for the possibility of not making it and continue on with furthering your career within the rank of Sgt, and/or wait for the next exam in a few years.
Very reasonable post.
And it seems like people who studied got an 80+. People who studied a little or half assed it got in the 70s. I could see this being very similar to the 2006 with a 80 being the top half.
Lets see how soon they will establish this list ,..are we over in Lts? Or are we under? Does anyone know?
I heard we were down like 20 and 9 just retired yesterday.
Cool. I heard they want to establish This list ASAP!!,..after protest session and TVB of course ,..can anyone confirm???
There is no way in hell someone who didn't study a lick got upper 70's on this exam. If u believe that then I got a bridge I wanna sell your dumba**. #tc
First of all some people need to stop acting so triggered about the possibility of the list getting cut. If the list does end up being 1050 people or greater there will certainly, 100% be some people who don't get promoted. If you studied and ended up in the 70's, yes that sucks. But the guys in the 80's and 90's studied harder. I'm afraid I will be on the bubble myself and I'm kicking myself for not putting more time in.
Also I realized that the longer it takes for the list to come out, the better it is for everyone. There will be more LT vacancies adding up and the four year clock on our list won't begin until it's activated. I fully expect the list to run for the full four years because there will be people with hooks and cranes on the bottom of the list as well as getting the largest possible sample size to increase the diversity of the higher ranks. So everyone try to sit back and relax. The longer it takes for the list to be established the better off we are.
The main reason the 2006 list was cut was because of the economy . When the market crashed down to 6000 or so and Lts were not retiring. The housing market collapsed and it wasnt a good time to retire. I got an 80 on that test and it took over 5 years to get made. I think as long as the economy dont **** the bed like it did in 2007-2008 this whole list will be made
There is no way in hell someone who didn't study a lick got upper 70's on this exam. If u believe that then I got a bridge I wanna sell your dumba**. #tc
I agree lol.
You know theres people who studied 12 hours a day and got a 75. Those are the people that say they never even studied.
If the list is 1100 names, I really don't see how the job can promote that many Lieutenants over 4 years. There's really no way to know 100% when or where the cut will happen, but of course it's gonna depend on retirements and how quickly promotions to Captain move along, and how the breakdown of the scores falls, like whether or not its a top-heavy list(which it sounds like it is).... But really, like it's been said over and over, there's only 1700 Lt's in the Dept. No way will a thousand or more retire by 2021/22. I personally have a good friend who didn't study because he's in a very nice place where he gets 40 hours a month, weekends off and the probability of getting SA pay, but decided to take the test because what the hell it's a day off... And he pulled upper 70's. I guess anything is possible, but if this list turns out to be 1100+, I think it may be a good idea to start to mentally prepare yourself for the possibility of not making it and continue on with furthering your career within the rank of Sgt, and/or wait for the next exam in a few years.
Very reasonable post.
And it seems like people who studied got an 80+. People who studied a little or half assed it got in the 70s. I could see this being very similar to the 2006 with a 80 being the top half.
Lets see how soon they will establish this list ,..are we over in Lts? Or are we under? Does anyone know?
I heard we were down like 20 and 9 just retired yesterday.
Cool. I heard they want to establish This list ASAP!!,..after protest session and TVB of course ,..can anyone confirm???
Did you hear this today?
Early this week,..looks like they want to get the TVB started,..
First of all some people need to stop acting so triggered about the possibility of the list getting cut. If the list does end up being 1050 people or greater there will certainly, 100% be some people who don't get promoted. If you studied and ended up in the 70's, yes that sucks. But the guys in the 80's and 90's studied harder. I'm afraid I will be on the bubble myself and I'm kicking myself for not putting more time in.
Also I realized that the longer it takes for the list to come out, the better it is for everyone. There will be more LT vacancies adding up and the four year clock on our list won't begin until it's activated. I fully expect the list to run for the full four years because there will be people with hooks and cranes on the bottom of the list as well as getting the largest possible sample size to increase the diversity of the higher ranks. So everyone try to sit back and relax. The longer it takes for the list to be established the better off we are.
I agree. We should all just wait and see. No need to worry. Enjoy the holidays ,..our loved ones,..
If the list is 1100 names, I really don't see how the job can promote that many Lieutenants over 4 years. There's really no way to know 100% when or where the cut will happen, but of course it's gonna depend on retirements and how quickly promotions to Captain move along, and how the breakdown of the scores falls, like whether or not its a top-heavy list(which it sounds like it is).... But really, like it's been said over and over, there's only 1700 Lt's in the Dept. No way will a thousand or more retire by 2021/22. I personally have a good friend who didn't study because he's in a very nice place where he gets 40 hours a month, weekends off and the probability of getting SA pay, but decided to take the test because what the hell it's a day off... And he pulled upper 70's. I guess anything is possible, but if this list turns out to be 1100+, I think it may be a good idea to start to mentally prepare yourself for the possibility of not making it and continue on with furthering your career within the rank of Sgt, and/or wait for the next exam in a few years.
Very reasonable post.
And it seems like people who studied got an 80+. People who studied a little or half assed it got in the 70s. I could see this being very similar to the 2006 with a 80 being the top half.
Lets see how soon they will establish this list ,..are we over in Lts? Or are we under? Does anyone know?
I heard we were down like 20 and 9 just retired yesterday.
Cool. I heard they want to establish This list ASAP!!,..after protest session and TVB of course ,..can anyone confirm???
Ugh...it really pains me to say dr.papi is right...but i heard the same thing about the job trying to get the list out sooner than later or at least trying to get dcas to put out the list quicker. Makes sense considering the introduction of computer based testing/protesting. We shall see...
If the list is 1100 names, I really don't see how the job can promote that many Lieutenants over 4 years. There's really no way to know 100% when or where the cut will happen, but of course it's gonna depend on retirements and how quickly promotions to Captain move along, and how the breakdown of the scores falls, like whether or not its a top-heavy list(which it sounds like it is).... But really, like it's been said over and over, there's only 1700 Lt's in the Dept. No way will a thousand or more retire by 2021/22. I personally have a good friend who didn't study because he's in a very nice place where he gets 40 hours a month, weekends off and the probability of getting SA pay, but decided to take the test because what the hell it's a day off... And he pulled upper 70's. I guess anything is possible, but if this list turns out to be 1100+, I think it may be a good idea to start to mentally prepare yourself for the possibility of not making it and continue on with furthering your career within the rank of Sgt, and/or wait for the next exam in a few years.
Very reasonable post.
And it seems like people who studied got an 80+. People who studied a little or half assed it got in the 70s. I could see this being very similar to the 2006 with a 80 being the top half.
Lets see how soon they will establish this list ,..are we over in Lts? Or are we under? Does anyone know?
I heard we were down like 20 and 9 just retired yesterday.
Cool. I heard they want to establish This list ASAP!!,..after protest session and TVB of course ,..can anyone confirm???
Ugh...it really pains me to say dr.papi is right...but i heard the same thing about the job trying to get the list out sooner than later or at least trying to get dcas to put out the list quicker. Makes sense considering the introduction of computer based testing/protesting. We shall see...
oh for Gods sake. We don't even have a list yet and people are talking about it getting cut. How many lists have been cut in history??? The 2006 list was cut because there were no promotions and a hiring freeze. Many conditions have to be in place for it to be cut, conditions that don't exist now. The current list is just about done and theres a shortage of Lt's. Once established its gonna move twice as fast as the 2006. Take a chill pill people, all will get made.
oh for Gods sake. We don't even have a list yet and people are talking about it getting cut. How many lists have been cut in history??? The 2006 list was cut because there were no promotions and a hiring freeze. Many conditions have to be in place for it to be cut, conditions that don't exist now. The current list is just about done and theres a shortage of Lt's. Once established its gonna move twice as fast as the 2006. Take a chill pill people, all will get made.
I agree,....unfortunately , people are believing the fake news just like,..never mind lol,.
Its being so annoying to read all these senseless and mentally challenged postings just for the mere fact, not to mention, list hasnt been established yet and yet every time visiting these forums to get some legitamete info, Im keep running into to bunch of crybabies who hasnt even learnt how to be a good SGT but yet here is pulling senseless info out of the @$$ figuring the passing numbers.
Its being so annoying to read all these senseless and mentally challenged postings just for the mere fact, not to mention, list hasnt been established yet and yet every time visiting these forums to get some legitamete info, Im keep running into to bunch of crybabies who hasnt even learnt how to be a good SGT but yet here is pulling senseless info out of the @$$ figuring the passing numbers.
Useless info? I dont know you took the time to digest machine's calculations or brooklynbacon's breakdown of the 2006 lt exam but their crafty work looks legit. They aren't trying to rain on anyones parade. Just stating the truth. I hope that everyone will get made but the hard reality is that it might not happen...hope I'm wrong...but Im usually right.
Its being so annoying to read all these senseless and mentally challenged postings just for the mere fact, not to mention, list hasnt been established yet and yet every time visiting these forums to get some legitamete info, Im keep running into to bunch of crybabies who hasnt even learnt how to be a good SGT but yet here is pulling senseless info out of the @$$ figuring the passing numbers.
Useless info? I dont know you took the time to digest machine's calculations or brooklynbacon's breakdown of the 2006 lt exam but their crafty work looks legit. They aren't trying to rain on anyones parade. Just stating the truth. I hope that everyone will get made but the hard reality is that it might not happen...hope I'm wrong...but Im usually right.
10% is a good sample size...so i think machine is spot on. Only an analyst would really understand machine's calculations. So machine, which one is it..OMAP or crime control strategies...inquiring minds want to know. Lol
Its being so annoying to read all these senseless and mentally challenged postings just for the mere fact, not to mention, list hasnt been established yet and yet every time visiting these forums to get some legitamete info, Im keep running into to bunch of crybabies who hasnt even learnt how to be a good SGT but yet here is pulling senseless info out of the @$$ figuring the passing numbers.
List wont be here for 4 to 6 months. So should everyone just stop posting until then?
And my numbers are coming from the official 2006 list which puts things into perspective.
-- Edited by brooklynbacon on Thursday 2nd of November 2017 02:06:04 PM
Its being so annoying to read all these senseless and mentally challenged postings just for the mere fact, not to mention, list hasnt been established yet and yet every time visiting these forums to get some legitamete info, Im keep running into to bunch of crybabies who hasnt even learnt how to be a good SGT but yet here is pulling senseless info out of the @$$ figuring the passing numbers.
List wont be here for 4 to 6 months. So should everyone just stop posting until then?
And my numbers are coming from the official 2006 list which puts things into perspective.
-- Edited by brooklynbacon on Thursday 2nd of November 2017 02:06:04 PM
If thats the case,..were looking at a Lt class for June no?
If the list is 1100 names, I really don't see how the job can promote that many Lieutenants over 4 years. There's really no way to know 100% when or where the cut will happen, but of course it's gonna depend on retirements and how quickly promotions to Captain move along, and how the breakdown of the scores falls, like whether or not its a top-heavy list(which it sounds like it is).... But really, like it's been said over and over, there's only 1700 Lt's in the Dept. No way will a thousand or more retire by 2021/22. I personally have a good friend who didn't study because he's in a very nice place where he gets 40 hours a month, weekends off and the probability of getting SA pay, but decided to take the test because what the hell it's a day off... And he pulled upper 70's. I guess anything is possible, but if this list turns out to be 1100+, I think it may be a good idea to start to mentally prepare yourself for the possibility of not making it and continue on with furthering your career within the rank of Sgt, and/or wait for the next exam in a few years.
Very reasonable post.
And it seems like people who studied got an 80+. People who studied a little or half assed it got in the 70s. I could see this being very similar to the 2006 with a 80 being the top half.
Lets see how soon they will establish this list ,..are we over in Lts? Or are we under? Does anyone know?
I heard we were down like 20 and 9 just retired yesterday.
Cool. I heard they want to establish This list ASAP!!,..after protest session and TVB of course ,..can anyone confirm???
Did you hear this today?
Early this week,..looks like they want to get the TVB started,..
If the list is 1100 names, I really don't see how the job can promote that many Lieutenants over 4 years. There's really no way to know 100% when or where the cut will happen, but of course it's gonna depend on retirements and how quickly promotions to Captain move along, and how the breakdown of the scores falls, like whether or not its a top-heavy list(which it sounds like it is).... But really, like it's been said over and over, there's only 1700 Lt's in the Dept. No way will a thousand or more retire by 2021/22. I personally have a good friend who didn't study because he's in a very nice place where he gets 40 hours a month, weekends off and the probability of getting SA pay, but decided to take the test because what the hell it's a day off... And he pulled upper 70's. I guess anything is possible, but if this list turns out to be 1100+, I think it may be a good idea to start to mentally prepare yourself for the possibility of not making it and continue on with furthering your career within the rank of Sgt, and/or wait for the next exam in a few years.
Very reasonable post.
And it seems like people who studied got an 80+. People who studied a little or half assed it got in the 70s. I could see this being very similar to the 2006 with a 80 being the top half.
Lets see how soon they will establish this list ,..are we over in Lts? Or are we under? Does anyone know?
I heard we were down like 20 and 9 just retired yesterday.
Cool. I heard they want to establish This list ASAP!!,..after protest session and TVB of course ,..can anyone confirm???
Did you hear this today?
Early this week,..looks like they want to get the TVB started,..
TVB?
Test Validation Board,...thats the board that looks at ALL the protested questions and make a FINAL decision on weather to throw it out , make it a double or leave it as is
Its being so annoying to read all these senseless and mentally challenged postings just for the mere fact, not to mention, list hasnt been established yet and yet every time visiting these forums to get some legitamete info, Im keep running into to bunch of crybabies who hasnt even learnt how to be a good SGT but yet here is pulling senseless info out of the @$$ figuring the passing numbers.
Useless info? I dont know you took the time to digest machine's calculations or brooklynbacon's breakdown of the 2006 lt exam but their crafty work looks legit. They aren't trying to rain on anyones parade. Just stating the truth. I hope that everyone will get made but the hard reality is that it might not happen...hope I'm wrong...but Im usually right.
I gotto be honest with you to tell you that I dont really need your street lawyer opinion, all Im asking for some legitimate info in regards to this test. To my understanding this test is a unique test with very small procentage of failing rate. Historically proven, DCAS treats every test diffirently. This test has nothing to do with 2006 test. for someone who put time and efforts shouldve Been no probs to score high enough. I wish everyone a good luck and hope we all make it. All I want to know is when the promotion starts. If you or others like you (bklynbacon and co., Oooh-yeah, DRPapi1983) know any good info Then share. None of you makes scene at this time.
and stop posting same info using different accounts, we all know you guys are one of the same. They should ban you For doing it.
-- Edited by emilchik80 on Thursday 2nd of November 2017 03:31:31 PM