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63ASAP · Guru

RE: Questions to Protest

southpaw1111 · Newbie

After instructing the cop to correct the stop report, he/she would have to physically take report back and do it before boss signs it, does that sound right? There was no mention of that occurring.

FranknBeans · Senior Member

It isnt filled out correctly. The supervisor checked that it was a legit stop and it wasnt.

LAR44 · Veteran Member

The question regarding proper uniform. The answer was "No uniform attire in civilian clothes". I got it wrong bc I thought how the windbreaker is uniform attire and crime cops wear that in civilian clothes. In PG 204, it states "The nylon windbreaker will be worn by anticrime personnel while performing anticrime duty or by authorized specialized units at police incidents" In PG 202-25 Anticrime Officer - crime cops are in civilian clothes....

What do you guys think?" Protestable?

TransitJoe · Senior Member

I'm not gonna say what the actual question was because people are nervous about the makeup, but that was not the wording of the question. The correct answer was word for word out of the procedure. Trust me, give up on that protest. I got that question wrong also, thats why I know, I looked it up immediately upon getting home from the test.

crappants · Senior Member

The question who do you notifiy if the special fraud squad is closed? Answer B.MISSING PERSON SQUAD

Creatine · Veteran Member

LAR, i recall one of the possible answers was "No uniform attire WITH civilian clothes." Soooo that was not the correct answer

CaballoRageRises · Veteran Member

Its gonna be a looooooong 5 weeks

Chew11 · Senior Member

You guys are aware there's an answer key going around with what is correct right ?

LAR44 · Veteran Member

that was or wasn't? do u remember what u put? im only saying bc I put the damn holster as mine as wrong

LAR44 · Veteran Member

Chew, send it to me pleeeeease

FranknBeans · Senior Member

I dropped at least 2 questions in 221...

LAR44 · Veteran Member

Can someone explain to me how you can have CPSP without a perp? (The question where it was CPSP in the 105, ID Theft)

63ASAP · Guru

LAR44 wrote:
Can someone explain to me how you can have CPSP without a perp? (The question where it was CPSP in the 105, ID Theft)

If you take a look at the Identity Theft classification chart in the Crime Complaint Reference Guide, it's line "C". It states:

Personal Identification Information used to obtain a credit card for which the victim did not apply. Credit card sent outside NYC, No charges were made in NYC and property delivered in NYC

then...

CPSP in the NYC precinct where the property was delivered.

-- Edited by 63ASAP on Tuesday 29th of August 2017 03:22:15 PM

LAR44 · Veteran Member

ahhh ok I see it! Thanks 63!. Which questions u think are protestable?

63ASAP · Guru

LAR44 wrote:
ahhh ok I see it! Thanks 63!. Which questions u think are protestable?

It's tough since we don't know how the writers interpreted questions. I think the lost shield has protest potential, in that you can argue the DO, Occurrence Pct. is responsible for the paperwork. The UPS/USPS mistake on the 61 may or may not have an effect on the answer as well. The signing the bad 250 is also arguable, if it turns out the answer was sign it, due to a number of factors already discussed here. Ultimately, I don't see much else with a lot of weight. Overall I think it was well written, but we'll have to see the proposed answers in a few weeks.

LAR44 · Veteran Member

what do u think about the concurrent jurisdiction with the aunt..They never mentioned her age I don't think. Du have that "proposed" key? if so can u send it me, I def prob bombed this and I have a crap key with wrong answers that are right

Samiam32 · Senior Member

2015 LT EXAM....Utter F*cking DISATER of an exam. Over 1300 protests were submitted. NOT ONE THROWOUT. I have no faith in the review board.

TransitJoe · Senior Member

The process to protest a question is impossible. Can't do it at the actual session because you'd need the entire patrol guide with you to submit a section as evidence. Can't write them at home and submit in the mail because you'd have to memorize all the question numbers you wanna protest and the answer choice you put and the correct answer choice. What a beaurocratic disaster

Samiam32 · Senior Member

When I went to the 2015 protest they had the patrol guide sections available for your use to submit with your protests. And there is definitely less chatter about this test.

TransitJoe · Senior Member

I did the 2013 sgt protest and we had to bring all supporting materials with us. And the yellow notice even states that we will not allowed to make any copies while at the protest. Some procedures I know I am going to protest so I will bring them, but anything that I didn't expect I'm def out of luck.

Risingstarrecid · Veteran Member

Does any believe that the question where the female has her phone taken from her on the subway platform and the perp caused an injury to an another uninvolved person while fleeing, that this is assault 2? Please explain

63ASAP · Guru

Risingstarrecid wrote:
Does any believe that the question where the female has her phone taken from her on the subway platform and the perp caused an injury to an another uninvolved person while fleeing, that this is assault 2? Please explain

I got it wrong myself. From the NYS Penal Law, Assault 2, subsection 6 (120.05):

6. In the course of and in furtherance of the commission or attempted
  commission  of  a  felony, other than a felony defined in article one
  hundred thirty  which  requires  corroboration  for  conviction,  or  of
  immediate  flight therefrom, he, or another participant if there be any,
  causes physical injury to a person other than one of  the  participants;
  or

LAR44 · Veteran Member

63ASAP wrote:
Risingstarrecid wrote:
Does any believe that the question where the female has her phone taken from her on the subway platform and the perp caused an injury to an another uninvolved person while fleeing, that this is assault 2? Please explain
I got it wrong myself. From the NYS Penal Law, Assault 2, subsection 6 (120.05):
6. In the course of and in furtherance of the commission or attempted
  commission  of  a  felony, other than a felony defined in article one
  hundred thirty  which  requires  corroboration  for  conviction,  or  of
  immediate  flight therefrom, he, or another participant if there be any,
  causes physical injury to a person other than one of  the  participants;
  or

Agreed but in the questu it said continuous event, that's not a continuous event, it's def assault 2 but they ****ed up on the question

63ASAP · Guru

LAR44 wrote:
63ASAP wrote:
Risingstarrecid wrote:
Does any believe that the question where the female has her phone taken from her on the subway platform and the perp caused an injury to an another uninvolved person while fleeing, that this is assault 2? Please explain
I got it wrong myself. From the NYS Penal Law, Assault 2, subsection 6 (120.05):
6. In the course of and in furtherance of the commission or attempted
  commission  of  a  felony, other than a felony defined in article one
  hundred thirty  which  requires  corroboration  for  conviction,  or  of
  immediate  flight therefrom, he, or another participant if there be any,
  causes physical injury to a person other than one of  the  participants;
  or
Agreed but in the questu it said continuous event, that's not a continuous event, it's def assault 2 but they ****ed up on the question

That's irrelevant, because it wasn't a continuous event question. It was a Penal Law question. All it did was reference the offense in the previous question and ask what the charge would be. They didn't mess that up at all.

TransitJoe · Senior Member

It's straight out of the CCRG

TransitJoe · Senior Member

All the way at the bottom

TransitJoe · Senior Member

Bottom example. Felony assault.

mike58520 · Veteran Member

Oh that's the exact question right there so I guess that one is settled.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Very tricky test