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Post were solo, I got 33

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Finest7578 wrote:

What about the robbery with a firearm


 



-- Edited by Arrow on Tuesday 28th of February 2017 12:48:11 PM

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Which case was left open to the squad ?

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60 year old?

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@arrow I don't know , I hope so , and no it was the CSU question

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Wow. If there were multiple variations of the test thats pretty interesting

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@gko6 , same



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I didn't take this test, I got promoted from 2013 test, but there was a guy in my command mentioning a question and 2 other guys said they didn't have that question. They told him he was crazy. He swore it was on his test. Maybe it's possible

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So the protest review is 6 hours long is that correct?

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I didn't take this test, I got promoted from 2013 test, but there was a guy in my command mentioning a question and 2 other guys said they didn't have that question. They told him he was crazy. He swore it was on his test. Maybe it's possible


 Guys at my command were talking about questions I don't remember being on my test. I thought it was just me.



-- Edited by DeezNutz on Sunday 26th of February 2017 10:04:05 PM

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How about the 3 fire question , anyone remember what role The supervisor played ? Patrol or first on scene ?

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Finest7578 wrote:

@arrow I don't know , I hope so , and no it was the CSU question


 



-- Edited by Arrow on Tuesday 28th of February 2017 12:48:42 PM

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Marijuana question. Do you wait?

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Yes you are correct

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Dept of buildings is supposed to be THROUGH oem. Definitely worth to protest.

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@nyc yes that's new C summons eligibility

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dept of buildings question refers to 217-12 notifications



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I had to reread the DARP question multiple times. It was VERY poorly worded and ripe to be thrown out.



-- Edited by UrinalFly on Sunday 26th of February 2017 10:03:42 PM

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The property question 218

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So that's one definite ..any others ?

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Read the additional data in 217-12



-- Edited by Nyc8722 on Sunday 26th of February 2017 11:47:31 PM

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Not dwi.....The female with Marijuana where it said to wait for her husband.



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The property question I believe was both DNA 20 lines and the jewelry



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The additional data in 217-12 says that dob "can" be reached through OEM 24/7 at..... Doesn't say specifically to notify dob through OEM.

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I don't remember all the questions but I do hope people fight questions

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You have to bring everything you want to fight in paper format .. guess I'll print out the whole guide .

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A friend of mine asked me what I got for the guy shooting off the roof of housing. I said I did not get that!!! She's like maybe you don't remember.....I said no you had a different test!! Ppl had different questions definitely.

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But I'm also very curious if anyone knows the procedure that was incorrectly cited

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I did not get that question

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I feel like it's way to much work for dcas to grade multiple tests...

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@nyfine that was a CSU right

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Will be protesting the question regarding confrontations. Based on the choices there were none that were verbatum from the PG. One choice said to have the cop take out his ID in a controlled manner (never specified slow) which is a point they went to on the last exam also the other apparently "correct" answer said for the cop to holster his firearm and put his hands in the air. i dont have the PG near me right now but i checked and there is no statement about holstering a firearm. it merely says while doing admin work in civ. attire, wear shield near holster but make an attempt to move shield near chest area when taking enforcement action 

Also, the 207 question regarding notifying IAB, it was the officers on scene right?

fire question- supervisor I chose advise FDNY incident commander of the number of mos in the building but i heard a few people say it was proceed immediately to the incident command post



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@No63foryou She got that question, I did not.

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nypd2010 wrote:

Will be protesting the question regarding confrontations. Based on the choices there were none that were verbatum from the PG. One choice said to have the cop take out his ID in a controlled manner (never specified slow) which is a point they went to on the last exam also the other apparently "correct" answer said for the cop to holster his firearm and put his hands in the air. i dont have the PG near me right now but i checked and there is no statement about holstering a firearm. it merely says while doing admin work in civ. attire, wear shield near holster but make an attempt to move shield near chest area when taking enforcement action 

Also, the 207 question regarding notifying IAB, it was the officers on scene right?

fire question- supervisor I chose advise FDNY incident commander of the number of mos in the building but i heard a few people say it was proceed immediately to the incident command post


 



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@nypd2010 Pg states produce is in slow
Controlled manner , Umos On scene notify IAB, and yes proceed to command first come
Before the other step

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The additional data in 217-12 says that dob "can" be reached through OEM 24/7 at..... Doesn't say specifically to notify dob through OEM.

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@finest that's only if the officer is on duty getting supervisor

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Finest7578 wrote:

@nypd2010 Pg states produce is in slow
Controlled manner , Umos On scene notify IAB, and yes proceed to command first come
Before the other step


 The sergeant in that question was second on scene. I believe the correct answer was direct the UMOS to direct responding emergency vehicles.

 

Edit: second sergeant on scene I meant



-- Edited by Thebirds on Sunday 26th of February 2017 10:48:55 PM

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btw Im new to this thing so not sure if im posting/replying the right way. What did you guys get for the use of force question- cop takesdown perp to the ground- perp goes to the ER and needs stitches. I put level 1 force (takedown) but inv by CO/Duty Capt. Some people i spoke to said because of the injury its level 2 force but i don't agree. 

fire question- ive been getting mixed answers. half people say report to incident command post/ half say advise incident commander number of mos inside

what about the diplomat quest. i think i put do not detain once identity is verifed by intel or something like that



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nypd2010 wrote:

btw Im new to this thing so not sure if im posting/replying the right way. What did you guys get for the use of force question- cop takesdown perp to the ground- perp goes to the ER and needs stitches. I put level 1 force (takedown) but inv by CO/Duty Capt. Some people i spoke to said because of the injury its level 2 force but i don't agree. 

fire question- ive been getting mixed answers. half people say report to incident command post/ half say advise incident commander number of mos inside

what about the diplomat quest. i think i put do not detain once identity is verifed by intel or something like that


 



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Finest7578 wrote:

@nypd2010 Pg states produce is in slow
Controlled manner , Umos On scene notify IAB, and yes proceed to command first come
Before the other step


 The sergeant in that question was second on scene. I believe the correct answer was direct the UMOS to direct responding emergency vehicles.

 

Edit: second sergeant on scene I meant



-- Edited by Thebirds on Sunday 26th of February 2017 10:48:55 PM


 Yep, patrol supervisor (subject of the question): Immediately assign uniformed members of the service to direct and control responding emergency vehicles to allow free access to affected area. 

He was the second sergeant on scene as well. Also the answer for the cop question before it was to inform FD personnel how many cops are in the building.



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Yeah, this exam was definitely tricky. I don't get how people are saying that it was straight forward. Like it that procedure there was 3 different actors. It is what it is at this point it's not definitely looking good for me. 



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im not really sure with the fdny as I picked to say how many mos were there.Level 2 for stitches and Let diplomatic  go after being  verified. 



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the scaffolding question I also picked ops....with the question on force figures I got 30 but I guess that wasn't it. There the weed question with the husband, I chose wait but one of the cops in my cmd said that DCAS was trying to trap u into what we would so in the real world. They wanted what was in the patrol guide...I too felt that was a judgement question. The one question they def need to throw out in addition to others is the question that did not have whether they were looking for a correct or incorrect answer. Don't remember what I put but they should def toss that. We should definitely get all our info together so when they mail us the protest session date we will be ready. A lot of people I know said the in basket was ridiculous.

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for that question about the perp getting hurt ...I chose co/xo is gunna be supervising but I cant remember if they had level 2 and notify co/xo /....or if they had level 1 and notify co/xo



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bignutz88 wrote:

is it possible DCAS can have no throw outs?


 Yes it is very Possible. Ask the people that took the 2015 LT test about the TVB, protests and throw outs. dont assume anything is a guaranted throw out.  Best of luck to all you guys. Good luck with the protests. 



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did anybody catch on the inbasket that they said you had to get rid of prisoners and how many cops to send....THEN a few questions down they said 4 prisoners IN THE CELL want to go to the hospital??? didn't we send them off already?

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Yeah, this exam was definitely tricky. I don't get how people are saying that it was straight forward. Like it that procedure there was 3 different actors. It is what it is at this point it's not definitely looking good for me. 


 I really believe that every person who says that test was straight forward is going to get a very different result than they're expecting. Some female on the Key's FB page said the answers jumped off the page. I lol'd at that one.



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wow smh

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How many treatment forms did you do ?

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