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prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

Protest Discussion

nypd2010 · Member

Supposedly its 3 because the guy with aids already had it listed on the movement slip and you don't list it twice . I dropped that one. Do you remember the dept. veh accident question with cops from another command. I picked that the patrol Supervisor preprEs a par x4 but inheard the answer is the p/s determines if a summons should be issued to a civilian operator

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

I don't remember what I chose lol but I think I dropped that one.....anybody send 3 cops to the transport???

Thebirds · Senior Member

Wait how is it 3 for the medical treatment? I thought it was 2, the guy who went to the hospital and the guy who asked to go, but then RMA'd.

For the transport you had to send 3 cops because it was more than 2 prisoners without chains.

-- Edited by Thebirds on Sunday 26th of February 2017 11:48:25 PM

-- Edited by Thebirds on Monday 27th of February 2017 12:00:59 AM

Finest7578 · Veteran Member

Patrol Guide for medical Treatment says do one for someone who requests then refuses ..also says denote communicable disease on either movement slip or medical treatment . 3 cops to transport for sure
also says do one for someone who may require medication

-- Edited by Finest7578 on Sunday 26th of February 2017 11:53:05 PM

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

oooooooo I see what youre saying....guess I dropped that one too I thought it was two just cuz of how many ....I had 3 and changed it ..ugghhh

Finest7578 · Veteran Member

I just want to let everyone know that I'm looking up all of these ,
Not saying I got them correct .. I don't feel
Very confident that I passed lol

Nyfine · Veteran Member

I sent 3 also then someone told me there's a note stating a van had transport chains inside it. That just pissed me off. What about Legal now? I marked the car stop as improper and the housing stop at 3.....not allowed to leave and give "what is a stop tear off" :/

No63foryou · Member

@nyfin its not whose going but whom gets a medical treatment

Finest7578 · Veteran Member

Where was this note ? Don't tell me it was on the rmp sheet . Car stop with the firearm ? That was good to go .. housing stop ? Unverified Caller ? No other reason
To stop ? No good

-- Edited by Finest7578 on Monday 27th of February 2017 12:19:57 AM

No63foryou · Member

@nyfine in mine it was a memo stating that the daisy chain was lost you couldn't transport 3 perps with just 2 MOS

Thebirds · Senior Member

Finest7578 wrote:
Where was this note ? Don't tell me it was on the rmp sheet . Car stop with the firearm ? That was good to go .. housing stop ? Unverified Caller ? No other reason
To stop ? No good

-- Edited by Finest7578 on Monday 27th of February 2017 12:04:04 AM

I'm vaguely remembering that question, but the housing stop answer I picked was to question and he had the right to leave although you aren't obligated to inform him of that. Didn't it have something about seeing a bulge that appeared to be a weapon or am I mixing up 2 questions?

No63foryou · Member

Finest7578 wrote:
Where was this note ? Don't tell me it was on the rmp sheet . Car stop with the firearm ? That was good to go .. housing stop ? Unverified Caller ? No other reason
To stop ? No good

-- Edited by Finest7578 on Monday 27th of February 2017 12:04:04 AM

it was a memo hope also caught that one of the tour changes got canceled and one if the cops came back full duty

Grammar question I was stuck then I saw principal was misspelled

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

wat questions are we gunna protest?? yea the firearm carstop I believe was good ....a van had chains??? omg here we goo wit Dcas

TenFour16 · Guru

The firearm carstop you guys are referring to is the LBB one in the inbasket ? I chose proper, but dont remember which proper it was.

What were the proper options ?

bigfoot45 · Guru

Sounds like you guys had a tough fair exam. Just so you know, a question won't get thrown out because of poor wording or even missing a word. The answer you picked has to be as good or better. If the question has completely no right answer, then it could be a throw out.

Nyfine · Veteran Member

Yes they were on Elite fb going on and on until he erased ppl posts putting questions up. There was a note that one of the Vans were to transport prisoners and the van was equipped with Chains!!!! Also they made the aided 66 and said the guy that hit him it was his 55th bday making him exactly over 10 years younger causing it to be Assault 2. Both those questions & answers had me upset! Lol

Finest7578 · Veteran Member

It tried to say the car stop was proper but you could only order out the driver ..

SonsOfXavier1997 · Senior Member

Bigfoot is right.

-- Edited by SonsOfXavier1997 on Monday 27th of February 2017 12:30:30 AM

-- Edited by SonsOfXavier1997 on Monday 27th of February 2017 12:55:42 AM

JPAL91091 · Senior Member

with the LBB-- I chose free to leave but you don't need to tell him
Medical Treatment-3 prisoners
the other LBB Car stop== take them out of the car

Thebirds · Senior Member

Nyfine wrote:
Yes they were on Elite fb going on and on until he erased ppl posts putting questions up. There was a note that one of the Vans were to transport prisoners and the van was equipped with Chains!!!! Also they made the aided 66 and said the guy that hit him it was his 55th bday making him exactly over 10 years younger causing it to be Assault 2. Both those questions & answers had me upset! Lol

The preliminary information stated the precinct's only set of transport chains were lost. The answer for the transport is definitely 3 cops.

Nyc8722 · Newbie

In basket which items were correct? (Item qrs)

JPAL91091 · Senior Member

Problem is that foot post question was a trip questions and got everyone so messed up.. at least anyone I spoke to

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

@ no63foryou.....someone told me Dcas was trying to suck you into a trap in choosing to wait for the ID but the answer was to put the person through

Arrow · Senior Member

wow, i put 4. i was so caught up in the damn in basket that didnt even notice that it mentioned that a movement slip was done else where in the in basket cuz the question didnt mentioned any movement slip.

3rdtimetheCharm · Senior Member

Finest7578 wrote:
Patrol Guide for medical Treatment says do one for someone who requests then refuses ..also says denote communicable disease on either movement slip or medical treatment . 3 cops to transport for sure
also says do one for someone who may require medication

-- Edited by Finest7578 on Sunday 26th of February 2017 11:53:05 PM

It actually states on a medical treatment form if not on a movemoment slip. I don't recall a movement slip. I only recalled seeing a Pedigree Card. Also you needed one for the guy who needed prescribed medication (asthma guy with pump)

Finest7578 · Veteran Member

Movement slip was in the packet looked nothing like a regular one that's why you don't remember it probably

nypd2010 · Member

What about the forms.. I listed stop report and lobs worksheet as correct since the 61 had the wrong jurisdiction

Arrow · Senior Member

oh yeah now i remember that damn slip in there wow. thats another wrong. no way I'm making it

Thebirds · Senior Member

nypd2010 wrote:
What about the forms.. I listed stop report and lobs worksheet as correct since the 61 had the wrong jurisdiction

Same

DeezNutz · Veteran Member

nypd2010 wrote:
Will be protesting the question regarding confrontations. Based on the choices there were none that were verbatum from the PG. One choice said to have the cop take out his ID in a controlled manner (never specified slow) which is a point they went to on the last exam also the other apparently "correct" answer said for the cop to holster his firearm and put his hands in the air. i dont have the PG near me right now but i checked and there is no statement about holstering a firearm. it merely says while doing admin work in civ. attire, wear shield near holster but make an attempt to move shield near chest area when taking enforcement action
Also, the 207 question regarding notifying IAB, it was the officers on scene right?
fire question- supervisor I chose advise FDNY incident commander of the number of mos in the building but i heard a few people say it was proceed immediately to the incident command post

For the (2) fire questions, one is for the Sgt to report to the incident command post, and the other was for the sector (second sector on scene) to account for the UMOS's.

-- Edited by DeezNutz on Monday 27th of February 2017 12:52:50 AM

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

For the Marijuana question. 209-38 clearly states "Delay arrest processing a reasonable amount of time to allow the delivery of such documents"

One of the choices said issue C summons but for the incorrect charge of 221.10 (should be 221.05)
The other choice said put them through but also under the incorrect charge of 221.05 (should be 221.10)

Cant remember the 4th choice but cant see how DCAS tried to trip you up unless I'm missing something.

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

yea the movement slip was weird as hell.....I really think they did this in basket with their eyes closed....soooo many sneaky things

Thebirds · Senior Member

DeezNutz wrote:
nypd2010 wrote:
Will be protesting the question regarding confrontations. Based on the choices there were none that were verbatum from the PG. One choice said to have the cop take out his ID in a controlled manner (never specified slow) which is a point they went to on the last exam also the other apparently "correct" answer said for the cop to holster his firearm and put his hands in the air. i dont have the PG near me right now but i checked and there is no statement about holstering a firearm. it merely says while doing admin work in civ. attire, wear shield near holster but make an attempt to move shield near chest area when taking enforcement action
Also, the 207 question regarding notifying IAB, it was the officers on scene right?
fire question- supervisor I chose advise FDNY incident commander of the number of mos in the building but i heard a few people say it was proceed immediately to the incident command post
For the (2) fire questions, one is for the Sgt to report to the incident command post, and the other was for the sector (second sector on scene) to account for the UMOS's.

-- Edited by DeezNutz on Monday 27th of February 2017 12:52:50 AM

I addressed this already, look at my post on the question. They got a lot of people on that sergeant fire question because they didn't take into account that he was the second sergeant on scene.

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

wowwww @ nauseous a lot of ppl told me I was wrong when I chose delay arrest processing....209-38 step 12 states that desk officer is to allow the person time to get ID if they can get DAT or Summons.......I was thinkin what I would do if I was on the desk.....in ADDITION to that the city council and everyone else is on our TAILS when it comes to weed....they basically want us to get rid of them asap IF they don't have a warrant but a lot of people told me I was wrong and it was to put them thru

-- Edited by prayingforapass70 on Monday 27th of February 2017 01:23:43 AM

Arrow · Senior Member

prayingforapass70 wrote:
yea the movement slip was weird as hell.....I really think they did this in basket with their eyes closed....soooo many sneaky things

This in basket really got me good. Who ever wrote that in basket really had a lot of free time on his hands. It was very challenging. I just smile when some guys say that the exam was straight forward. And I tell them you either didn't study and just took the exam or took a different one

bigfoot45 · Guru

The time was certainly taken to make it tricky. However, it seems the time was also taken to ensure their was a comprehensible correct question.

DeezNutz · Veteran Member

nypd2010 wrote:
What about the forms.. I listed stop report and lobs worksheet as correct since the 61 had the wrong jurisdiction

The 61 was bad period. No 61 for Crim Tres 3.

Thebirds · Senior Member

The worst part about all the tricky questions is it made the few straight forward ones tricky precisely because they weren't. You're looking for a catch that isn't there and it throws you off. I dropped a couple points because of that.

Arrow · Senior Member

bigfoot45 wrote:
The time was certainly taken to make it tricky. However, it seems the time was also taken to ensure their was a comprehensible correct question.

You're correct Bigfoot. Those questions were on another level. Don't get me wrong hey were a few straight forward question, but wow.

bigfoot45 · Guru

It's actually a good thing to have an exam like that. Those that really put the time in will pass. Those that didn't will fall a little short.

DeezNutz · Veteran Member

Anyone who did not have a question with a female that suffered a broken leg caused by an MOS using force?

Thebirds · Senior Member

bigfoot45 wrote:
It's actually a good thing to have an exam like that. Those that really put the time in will pass. Those that didn't will fall a little short.

I don't really get this attitude. If you put more time in you do better and get a higher list number. Why would I wish for more people to fail? If the test is "too easy" the list will get cut anyway.

Thebirds · Senior Member

DeezNutz wrote:
Anyone who did not have a question with a female that suffered a broken leg caused by an MOS using force?

It was a broken ankle.

Nyfine · Veteran Member

It was broken ankle, Spi iab @deez

DeezNutz · Veteran Member

Myself and 2 other people I know of did not have that question.

3rdtimetheCharm · Senior Member

nypd2010 wrote:
Will be protesting the question regarding confrontations. Based on the choices there were none that were verbatum from the PG. One choice said to have the cop take out his ID in a controlled manner (never specified slow) which is a point they went to on the last exam also the other apparently "correct" answer said for the cop to holster his firearm and put his hands in the air. i dont have the PG near me right now but i checked and there is no statement about holstering a firearm. it merely says while doing admin work in civ. attire, wear shield near holster but make an attempt to move shield near chest area when taking enforcement action
Also, the 207 question regarding notifying IAB, it was the officers on scene right?
fire question- supervisor I chose advise FDNY incident commander of the number of mos in the building but i heard a few people say it was proceed immediately to the incident command post

Holstering and putting hands in the air is wrong bc the PG specifically states to remain motionless

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

yea I def got that wrong I thought it was the sgt one just cuz they didn't state WHO pushed the lady. IN the question it only stated the officers moved ppl along...but o well

Arrow · Senior Member

prayingforapass70 wrote:
yea I def got that wrong I thought it was the sgt one just cuz they didn't state WHO pushed the lady. IN the question it only stated the officers moved ppl along...but o well

-- Edited by Arrow on Tuesday 28th of February 2017 12:51:27 PM

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

@ 3rd time the charm yes it says remain motionless