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just as I suspected,their reason for not throwing out question 106 was generic and entirely unacceptable....



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What about # 45?

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What about number 1?   Any others give terrible reasons?



-- Edited by Transitblows on Thursday 31st of March 2016 03:33:07 PM

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This is why everyone is pissed, they asked a question on information passed the cut off date. I got it right so it wont help me if it was a throw out, its just the principle of it all. So the next test they can question things past the cut off date since they did it for this test. This whole debacle of an exam is on DCAS. They dropped the ball on this test on numerous occasions. Hopefully the job and public realizes DCAS's incompetence in giving and proctoring an exam.

2 months to give the make up exam
Protest session given a month before the make up exam
No throw outs on a test with numerous questions that should have been thrownout
10 months to establish a list with no changes

All these things makes me wonder if they even move the questions around for the make up exam or just gave it straight forward like our exam.



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Most of the heavily protested questions had generic or sometimes opinion driven interpretations as the reason the proposed answer was the only correct choice, or other choices were rejected.

Some questions like #117 received 94 protests and 94 were deemed invalid, so not a single submitted protest was reviewed.  For anyone going down to the session (you have until 1 hour before the session ends to show up), they let you bring your Candidate Record of Answers and you Notice to Appear for the session only.  No test materials were being supplied and many in attendance made a big stink about not having any reference to fact patterns, especially for the heavily protested questions.  They don't let you write anything down during the session.

Other numbers:  1627 individual protests were submitted, 88 questions of the 120 on the test were protested, 60 of the 88 questions were deemed invalid (not sure on the last description bc I couldn't remember the damn wording)


Other notes:  The first test (4/18) and the make up exam(6/22) had identical question #'s for the In Basket portion (1-20).  The jumble question #'s appeared to be for questions #21-120.  The TVB Report cited the 2 test dates (4/18 and 6/22) for all the in-basket questions but then referred to different #'s for the answers that pertained to questions #21 and higher.  FYI for anybody going after the make up exam advantage. 

If anyone needs names of DCAS supervisors that worked the TVB Reading Session on 3/31/16 in Brooklyn:

Director:  Matthew Morangello, ACES, DCAS

Deputy Director:  Jeffrey Cohen, DCAS

 



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Three test dates listed: 4/18, 6/22 and 12/17

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cornhole wrote:

 

Most of the heavily protested questions had generic or sometimes opinion driven interpretations as the reason the proposed answer was the only correct choice, or other choices were rejected.

Some questions like #117 received 94 protests and 94 were deemed invalid, so not a single submitted protest was reviewed.  For anyone going down to the session (you have until 1 hour before the session ends to show up), they let you bring your Candidate Record of Answers and you Notice to Appear for the session only.  No test materials were being supplied and many in attendance made a big stink about not having any reference to fact patterns, especially for the heavily protested questions.  They don't let you write anything down during the session.

Other numbers:  1627 individual protests were submitted, 88 questions of the 120 on the test were protested, 60 of the 88 questions were deemed invalid (not sure on the last description bc I couldn't remember the damn wording)


Other notes:  The first test (4/18) and the make up exam(6/22) had identical question #'s for the In Basket portion (1-20).  The jumble question #'s appeared to be for questions #21-120.  The TVB Report cited the 2 test dates (4/18 and 6/22) for all the in-basket questions but then referred to different #'s for the answers that pertained to questions #21 and higher.  FYI for anybody going after the make up exam advantage. 

If anyone needs names of DCAS supervisors that worked the TVB Reading Session on 3/31/16 in Brooklyn:

Director:  Matthew Morangello, ACES, DCAS

Deputy Director:  Jeffrey Cohen, DCAS

 

 


 Very informative !!! Perhaps this information is useful in the lawsuit. The fact that the make-up scammers already had the answers for the in-basket shows the disproportionate advantage they had.

DCAS is also a mess and it's unfortunate that such an anti-cop rhetoric driven agency is able to administer promotional exams for the very people they dislike.



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-- Edited by Su Madre 24 on Thursday 31st of March 2016 08:06:31 PM

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PD2FD wrote:
cornhole wrote:

 

Most of the heavily protested questions had generic or sometimes opinion driven interpretations as the reason the proposed answer was the only correct choice, or other choices were rejected.

Some questions like #117 received 94 protests and 94 were deemed invalid, so not a single submitted protest was reviewed.  For anyone going down to the session (you have until 1 hour before the session ends to show up), they let you bring your Candidate Record of Answers and you Notice to Appear for the session only.  No test materials were being supplied and many in attendance made a big stink about not having any reference to fact patterns, especially for the heavily protested questions.  They don't let you write anything down during the session.

Other numbers:  1627 individual protests were submitted, 88 questions of the 120 on the test were protested, 60 of the 88 questions were deemed invalid (not sure on the last description bc I couldn't remember the damn wording)


Other notes:  The first test (4/18) and the make up exam(6/22) had identical question #'s for the In Basket portion (1-20).  The jumble question #'s appeared to be for questions #21-120.  The TVB Report cited the 2 test dates (4/18 and 6/22) for all the in-basket questions but then referred to different #'s for the answers that pertained to questions #21 and higher.  FYI for anybody going after the make up exam advantage. 

If anyone needs names of DCAS supervisors that worked the TVB Reading Session on 3/31/16 in Brooklyn:

Director:  Matthew Morangello, ACES, DCAS

Deputy Director:  Jeffrey Cohen, DCAS

 

 


 Very informative !!! Perhaps this information is useful in the lawsuit. The fact that the make-up scammers already had the answers for the in-basket shows the disproportionate advantage they had.

DCAS is also a mess and it's unfortunate that such an anti-cop rhetoric driven agency is able to administer promotional exams for the very people they dislike.


Definitely useful in the lawsuit 



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Thanks for saving me a trip down there

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I think we can get at least 500 sergeants to protest in front of DCAS. This is rediculous!!!

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no

Deputy director Cohen hmmmm



-- Edited by DrUnK247 on Friday 1st of April 2016 01:24:50 AM

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If you protested a question based on the material on the exam, it was automatically considered invalid and it was basically thrown out. Examples of those types of protests are the ops orders being protested because they were not listed, the CCRG questions and 106 for being based on material past the cutoff date. So if you fought 106 based on the fact that it was material past the cutoff date they threw your protest in the garbage. How are they allowed to do that? They can just ask a question based on something they specifically told you not to read, and when you take issue with it, they throw your protest in the garbage because your protest is based on the material on the exam which is invalid. So what are you supposed to do?

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I think they just want you to guess at what is going to be on the exam, so hopefully you get lucky and pick the right things to study. 



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DCAS fudged up this whole exam. If they would of had a fair TVB none of this would of happen.

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DCAS fudged up this whole exam. If they would of had a fair TVB none of this would of happen.


 DCAS is full of a bunch of anti-cop/Deblasio supporters so it's their full intention to make an exam as unfair as possible.



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hopefully this get resolved quickly so we can go on with our careers.

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Did anybody attend this or was it canceled ? Mine was on April 4th I believe . I should've went .

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