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I never expected it to go this far. All of this couldve been avoided if they just gave a fair exam. 100% cause of this was that the "job" allowed this guy, knowing who he is to be in charge of this exam. Talk about poor decisions, this job is full of them .
I never expected it to go this far. All of this couldve been avoided if they just gave a fair exam. 100% cause of this was that the "job" allowed this guy, knowing who he is to be in charge of this exam. Talk about poor decisions, this job is full of them .
Very true. A fair exam the list would have been 800-900 deep and we wouldn't be having this conversation. They have themselves to blame, including Capt Fvkcboy with the ponytail who created that nonsense.
-- Edited by fodx on Saturday 26th of March 2016 04:25:55 PM
All of this could of been avoided, if we had a just TVB. There were questions that had flaws. questions on material not named on the NOE and a question on material passed the cut off date. I hope this list is not thrown out i have multiple friends on the list that studied their asses off and they should not be penalized due to the scammers. So far everyone is attacking the 9 on the lawsuit but no mention of the scammers that cheated and are on the top of the list. How many scammers r on the top 30 of this list. So yes unfortunately some of the elite got held up in this first wave but more scammer got held up also. So instead of attcking the 9 sgts that did something that we all complained about, just wait and see how this all plays out.
Also by attacking them and showcasing their names and stating where they work, it will only strengthen their lawsuit on why they never stepped forward in the beginning do to the fear of retaliation.
All of this could of been avoided, if we had a just TVB. There were questions that had flaws. questions on material not named on the NOE and a question on material passed the cut off date. I hope this list is not thrown out i have multiple friends on the list that studied their asses off and they should not be penalized due to the scammers. So far everyone is attacking the 9 on the lawsuit but no mention of the scammers that cheated and are on the top of the list. How many scammers r on the top 30 of this list. So yes unfortunately some of the elite got held up in this first wave but more scammer got held up also. So instead of attcking the 9 sgts that did something that we all complained about, just wait and see how this all plays out. Also by attacking them and showcasing their names and stating where they work, it will only strengthen their lawsuit on why they never stepped forward in the beginning do to the fear of retaliation.
You know you can report misconduct/corruption annonymosly if you are sooo afraid of retaliation. The judge will see right through their perfect/after list dropped/convenient timing for reporting. Wont be the first or last suit alleging the same thing.
What you have to realize is this is NOT just delaying promotions. This city has already caved by willing to negotiate. This hasn't happened in years on this job. And yes they can throw out exams and no ur suit won't go anywhere. Been done before and it is actually the best option for them cause it shows a dedication to the testing process and a clean and fair slate for all. So please stop with these counter suits they go nowhere. Save ur money, remember we are all for the most point useless cogs in a bureaucracy and one day the cog Retires. With that being said, the focus is getting away from the make up scammers and directed to the band of 9---who in my opinion have more balls then most of u. I simply don't care enough anymore to pony up more money and am to damn close to retiring from this penal colony then to chuck thousands away. However, they did. And you know what. It's working. They have this blasted all over the news and trust me the word on the street is the city is probably going to negotiate. Not 100%. Only other option is to chuck it. Which, sorry elite people can happen. I think it sucks for u too. But it wasn't this band of 9 who created this----it was the scammers like I have been tellin u since the day after we took the exam. Hmmmmm, but no one wanted to listen to me. These scammers created this all----and laughed at all of u. Me too. The failures like me and the passers they skipped. THey cheated the elites out of money, vacation picks, and seniority for doing nothing. I'm not trying to divide or upset but this attack on the band of 9 over the scammers is directing ur anger wrong.
-- Edited by ondeeair2321 on Saturday 26th of March 2016 09:53:09 PM
Here we go again, a man of 1000 posts with 0 intel. Didnt you retire from this site?
Nobody caved in to anything. Stop spreading misinfromation like you did for past 10 months.
Actually if you take time and read the order from March 24th the judge denied the original motion for temp injunction and resceduled it so it can be served on defendants.
'Mysterious' whispers in the bathrooms will not fly in front of federal judge. All other evidence such as passing ratios are all circumstantial.
What you have to realize is this is NOT just delaying promotions. This city has already caved by willing to negotiate. This hasn't happened in years on this job. And yes they can throw out exams and no ur suit won't go anywhere. Been done before and it is actually the best option for them cause it shows a dedication to the testing process and a clean and fair slate for all. So please stop with these counter suits they go nowhere. Save ur money, remember we are all for the most point useless cogs in a bureaucracy and one day the cog Retires. With that being said, the focus is getting away from the make up scammers and directed to the band of 9---who in my opinion have more balls then most of u. I simply don't care enough anymore to pony up more money and am to damn close to retiring from this penal colony then to chuck thousands away. However, they did. And you know what. It's working. They have this blasted all over the news and trust me the word on the street is the city is probably going to negotiate. Not 100%. Only other option is to chuck it. Which, sorry elite people can happen. I think it sucks for u too. But it wasn't this band of 9 who created this----it was the scammers like I have been tellin u since the day after we took the exam. Hmmmmm, but no one wanted to listen to me. These scammers created this all----and laughed at all of u. Me too. The failures like me and the passers they skipped. THey cheated the elites out of money, vacation picks, and seniority for doing nothing. I'm not trying to divide or upset but this attack on the band of 9 over the scammers is directing ur anger wrong.
-- Edited by ondeeair2321 on Saturday 26th of March 2016 09:53:09 PM
Cut the sh*t, we know you're part of the law suit. Can we just ban this guy already?
Ondeair.... You make NO sense whatsoever... You just made the slimey 10!
Just like those rejects you continue to undermine legit passers... The scammers didn't make you or anyone else fail, try to understand that.
What you have to realize is this is NOT just delaying promotions. This city has already caved by willing to negotiate. This hasn't happened in years on this job. And yes they can throw out exams and no ur suit won't go anywhere. Been done before and it is actually the best option for them cause it shows a dedication to the testing process and a clean and fair slate for all. So please stop with these counter suits they go nowhere. Save ur money, remember we are all for the most point useless cogs in a bureaucracy and one day the cog Retires. With that being said, the focus is getting away from the make up scammers and directed to the band of 9---who in my opinion have more balls then most of u. I simply don't care enough anymore to pony up more money and am to damn close to retiring from this penal colony then to chuck thousands away. However, they did. And you know what. It's working. They have this blasted all over the news and trust me the word on the street is the city is probably going to negotiate. Not 100%. Only other option is to chuck it. Which, sorry elite people can happen. I think it sucks for u too. But it wasn't this band of 9 who created this----it was the scammers like I have been tellin u since the day after we took the exam. Hmmmmm, but no one wanted to listen to me. These scammers created this all----and laughed at all of u. Me too. The failures like me and the passers they skipped. THey cheated the elites out of money, vacation picks, and seniority for doing nothing. I'm not trying to divide or upset but this attack on the band of 9 over the scammers is directing ur anger wrong.
-- Edited by ondeeair2321 on Saturday 26th of March 2016 09:53:09 PM
Relax Mr. Property Clerk... The only chucking we will be doing is you from the site. Slimmy..
-- Edited by wisecop on Saturday 26th of March 2016 10:29:22 PM
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Bigfoot is an elite passer and a gentleman. Listen I'm sorry u elite guys didn't get promoted u do deserve it. But all of u as hard as u worked were part of a faulty corrupted test, u have to come to grips w that. The makeup guys enhanced this ten fold when the tvb came back w Zero. The integrity of this exam has been on the toilet since the nite of April 18. U are acting like a Bernie sanders lynch mob too. "Ban him" "go away" "loser". Cyber Lynch mob tactics like 12 yr olds in an aol chat room. All I'm saying is that the anger is all to the band of 9 guys and the makeup scammers are skating. I don't even know any of these band of 9 guys they seem to all be from housing, but I commend them It sucks the elite got screwed yes it does!!! But the makeup scammers ain't laughing now are they????? This ain't going away can tell u that---this I know fact.
-- Edited by ondeeair2321 on Saturday 26th of March 2016 10:44:46 PM
Bigfoot is an elite passer and a gentleman. Listen I'm sorry u elite guys didn't get promoted u do deserve it. But all of u as hard as u worked were part of a faulty corrupted test, u have to come to grips w that. The makeup guys enhanced this ten fold when the tvb came back w Zero. The integrity of this exam has been on the toilet since the nite of April 18. U are acting like a Bernie sanders lynch mob too. "Ban him" "go away" "loser". Cyber Lynch mob tactics like 12 yr olds in an aol chat room.
Stop being a jealous little bitch...because you're a failure. April 18 I sat and took the test you couldn't pass cuz ur stupid. Perhaps you shouldn't have spent the little ot money u get at the property clerks office on this nonsense. We know who u are
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Wise cop u sound like a man of genius. I'm assuming in the band of 70-74, which means u won the coin flip on a few and I didn't. Luck of draw. However guys who got 75+ are the real elite. And the guy cis who flew NASA spaceships, had 4.0 gpa s in every academic theatre he's been in, and basically who Won the counter suit with that thread I have one question. What in the **** are you doing in this job????????? I am sure u are in palace launching drones into the streets or sending Satelittes into orbit to change weather patterns for us during protests---all I can say is that was some thread.
-- Edited by ondeeair2321 on Saturday 26th of March 2016 11:38:15 PM
Wise cop u sound like a man of genius. I'm assuming in the band of 70-74, which means u won the coin flip on a few and I didn't. Luck of draw. However guys who got 75+ are the real elite. And the guy cis who flew NASA spaceships, had 4.0 gpa s in every academic theatre he's been in, and basically who Won the counter suit with that thread I have one question. What in the **** are you doing in this job????????? I am sure u are in palace launching drones into the streets or sending Satelittes into orbit to change weather patterns for us during protests---all I can say is that was some thread.
-- Edited by ondeeair2321 on Saturday 26th of March 2016 11:38:15 PM
You don't know who wisecop is, but he sure knows who you are.
Here we go again, a man of 1000 posts with 0 intel. Didnt you retire from this site? Nobody caved in to anything. Stop spreading misinfromation like you did for past 10 months. Actually if you take time and read the order from March 24th the judge denied the original motion for temp injunction and resceduled it so it can be served on defendants. 'Mysterious' whispers in the bathrooms will not fly in front of federal judge. All other evidence such as passing ratios are all circumstantial.
That link doesn't work.
Not only this suit is very weak without any substantial evidence(mysterious whispers) but it also contains false statement, specifically on page 3 of declaration. hopefully his retained attorney deals with criminal matters such as perjury. All the original day passers take a deep breath we should know something more concrete by Tom evening. The judge already denied their original motion.
This has happened all before and in all those instances the exam was thrown out and a do over example was called for for "EVERYONE" including the failures. Get ready cause history always repeats itself when cheating is concerned.
Daily news, Ny1 and any other media outlet should report how unfair it is that Nypd Sergeants that practice certain religions and military personnel who are risking there lives in NYC and as a soldier defending this country are being labeled as cheaters because of 9 jealous, envious losers who failed the test. The NYPD and the city law department do not want to violate federal law and discriminate against our real heros and our brilliant Sergeants who practice various religions and faiths. Maybe those 9 disrespectful, intolerant, selfish cowards should learn how to be more tolerant of our cities multicultural population and understand we have laws to protect people from being discriminated against. They say they want and deserve to be a Lt. but can't handle taking a test in a controlled environment with a little music. How are they going to make a swift and wise decision in a chaotic situation in the streets of NYC. These clowns are willing to lye and fabricate stories because they are envious, jealous and evil individuals. They have no integrity and don't belong on this job.
These are legal loopholes in the testing process that are taken advantage of EVERY EXAM. Process should be changed BUT those that passed should not suffer.
We wanted justice. We wanted our voices to be heard. How else would we break this unfairness/ unjustice cycle.
We are upset at the 9 who brought the lawsuit, who spoke up for our cries, when we should really be upset at those "cheaters/ scammers."
Your were voices were heard alright, spewing lies that there was cheating on the first day of test being administered. Which we all know is a complete fabrication of your imagination. You guys went about this "Injustice" the wrong way. The department were already conducting investigations towards the supposedly "cheating" scam. Now you are keeping people who worked hard to study and pass for their promotion.
Who knows maybe they did sees these things, unless u were in their class or next to them u cant say if they are lies or not, i dont want the list thrown out but if this lawsuit makes them look into the TVB then it has been well worth it. The only people that should be worried should be the make up exam takers, dont think the job will punish the ones that passed on the original test day. But the ones that had a drill out of no where or old line of duty acting up roght before the test will have to worry.
The true elite 128 should have nothing to worry about.. you all will get promoted in due time as you all deserve. It's a strong statement to say all who took the make up test is a "cheater/scammer," however each and everyone one who took the make up exam should be investigated and interviewed. The passing rate of the make up exam is alarming.
It's obvious that electronic devices were used during the protest. A photo of the official answer key from the protest surfaced on this website. Many of us brought our 2000 page patrol guide to the protest session. We left the protest without that thing being inspected. How easy was it to mark up our patrol guide, referencing the questions on the exam and provide exam questions to those were scheduled to take the make up exam..
This is a strong statement, but word has surfaced that instructors who teach promotional class pay students to bring the exact wording of the questions on the exam so they can either help with protest or help their lesson plan for future classes.
It's mind boggling to know the same exam questions that were given in the initial exam are the same exact questions given on the make up exam.
We should be upset at the scammers/ cheaters, we know who they are, not those who brought this lawsuit.
This unfair/unjustice/corrupt exam process needed change. This lawsuit would bring the change. The elite 128 have nothing to worry about.