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We should probably plan for worst case scenario. Let's get a head count of who's interested in a lawsuit for if we do not get promoted. 



-- Edited by Devil Dog on Saturday 26th of March 2016 12:33:14 PM

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IM IN

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I don't see this happening.... not even a 1 percent chance that we don't get promoted.  If it does happen I have no problem taking the lead with Devil dog. 



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I am obviously in.

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-- Edited by Devil Dog on Saturday 26th of March 2016 12:34:07 PM

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This is unreal.

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I'd be in as well.



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In. Every penny I have.

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Hopefully this will only cause delays. If it is worse, count me in.

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They got 9 sergeants.  We could easily get 100 on the other side.



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Im in

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IN! I don't care how much I have to shell out.

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They can't prove any cheating on the original test than there was on any other promotional test. Can't see how they won't promote the 164 original passers

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I'm in as well.

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Don't think we'll get screwed like that.

But if we do, I'm in.

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The media is monitoring the site another article on the daily news this time about the Muslim captain

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If they throw the test I'm vesting out. This is nuts.

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I'm happy the free ride is ending for all the alternate test cheaters



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The media is monitoring the site another article on the daily news this time about the Muslim captain


They must be sick of seeing my dancing Darth Vader by now.



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At least the Post article is partially truth, except for the part when u fail the original and pass the make up. That's a lie from the lawsuit

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I just got back from doing cardio. I can't believe what I'm seeing. This is absolute madness.
The people who busted their hump and passed shouldn't be penalized

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-- Edited by Devil Dog on Saturday 26th of March 2016 12:34:53 PM

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wisecop wrote:

I'm happy the free ride is ending for all the alternate test cheaters


 I don't think it is. It'll reduce some but not all. The Sabbath observers aren't gonna say "hey I'm not that religious so ill take the test on the original date". And reservists will still get orders for weekend drill. In the end this lawsuit will only serve to embarrass the dept, and delay the promotions for this list, which will subsequently delay the next Lt test. 



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I just want to get promoted. I gave up so much, we gave up so much. These nine sgts, what are they getting out of this??? They throw the test out?? You still failed. What's the point? Lying about cheating for our exam day is insane.

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All you "True Elite" (patrol Sgts) even "Regular Elite" (acronyms units) will get made... just take one for the team and wait a bit longer for that promotion. Do it for your predecessors and for all future exams coming up...let's stick together a bit longer.

Nothing might even come from the lawsuit, but it has certainly gotten the attention of the Job and DCAS... They should be ashamed of themselves for allowing that Capt create such a f*cked up test and not allowing 1 change of the 19 submitted.



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I'm happy the free ride is ending for all the alternate test cheaters


 I don't think it is. It'll reduce some but not all. The Sabbath observers aren't gonna say "hey I'm not that religious so ill take the test on the original date". And reservists will still get orders for weekend drill. In the end this lawsuit will only serve to embarrass the dept, and delay the promotions for this list, which will subsequently delay the next Lt test. 


 I think that the test will be given a weekday and military scammers will have to sign an availability waiver prior to signing on to the test in addition if ur not incapacitated ur taking the test.



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All you "True Elite" even Regular Elite will get made... just take one for the team and wait a bit longer for that promotion. Do it for your predecessors and for all future exams coming up...let's stick together a bit longer.

Nothing might even come from the lawsuit, but it has certainly gotten the attention of the Job and DCAS... They should be ashamed of themselves for allowing that Capt create such a f*cked up test and not allowing 1 change of the 19 submitted.


 Agree just picture a huge class mixed with the scammers we can give me all wedgies



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I strongly believe this won't be thrown out. If anything it'll delay people promotions a bit...which is still ****ed up.

Absolute madness

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All you "True Elite" even Regular Elite will get made... just take one for the team and wait a bit longer for that promotion. Do it for your predecessors and for all future exams coming up...let's stick together a bit longer.

Nothing might even come from the lawsuit, but it has certainly gotten the attention of the Job and DCAS... They should be ashamed of themselves for allowing that Capt create such a f*cked up test and not allowing 1 change of the 19 submitted.


 Finally someone sane has spoken. agreed 100%



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I'm very happy we keep the topic alive even with the asterisks list, it was easier to just eat it and wait for he pity promo. Change was due.

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IShredMajors wrote:

They got 9 sergeants.  We could easily get 100 on the other side.


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-- Edited by Lu515 on Friday 25th of March 2016 12:21:23 AM

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Count me in as part of the lawsuit too if we get penalized for the scammers

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Now that Vuccinaj has embarrassed the Department on an almost national level he needs to be given a below standards eval by his superiors and put on dismissal probation. This guy wrote the worst test in NYPD history, people have been dismissed for much less. This is all his fault.

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I contacted the SBA and they ignored me...They take our dues they should get us a good lawyer

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wisecop wrote:

I contacted the SBA and they ignored me...They take our dues they should get us a good lawyer


 Guy F@ck the SBA. They don't give a sh!t about us... 



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Honestly if you guys get a lawyer I'm in, so are a few of my friends who passed. Also anyone who gets on the stand and says there was "bathroom cheating" on test day needs to be charged with perjury.

People who actually studied would never take that sort of risk and anyone who didn't wouldn't even know how to navigate those questions.

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They're going to help and earn their checks unless they want the post on their case

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To even suggest that with a 5% passing rate is ludicrous. Had there been rampant cheating and people discussing exams questions in the bathroom more than 164 people would have passed. Including those nine sgts who are putting their integrity on the line BC they are a bunch of tit babies and failed this test.

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SBA Can not get involved. It's a conflict of interest. Representing some sergeants will
Hurt other sergeants. They have to remain neutral

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SBA Can not get involved. It's a conflict of interest. Representing some sergeants will
Hurt other sergeants. They have to remain neutral


 Mullins already said it's not cheating.



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I'm in as well. Not fair that the original people who passed have to go through this ordeal.

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Should we be using this forum as a means of advertising for every news article that pops up? The news is obviously looking here for information, and it's the lawsuit guys that are posting them all.



-- Edited by IShredMajors on Friday 25th of March 2016 01:02:05 AM

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Why not promote those of us who passed the exam on the original Date, April 18... those who took the alternate exam should be skipped and not get promoted until the investigation is done ! It's not fair we have to pay because the alleged actions of others !

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I'm all in on the law suit too, count me in.

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Im with you a 1000%. 



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If this test is tossed they have to retroactively throw out every test for the past three decades. Demote the whole NYPD back down to police officers.

The ONLY difference between this exam and past exams is that it was unreasonably difficult and had flawed questions that for some reason were kept as correct.

Whoever made the call at DCAS to not accept the 19 changes needs to be forced to resign. That's what really caused this, everything else was 100% the same as past exams. So again, those exams all need to be tossed if that's the case.

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Sixmonth, you are spot on!

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Sixmonth, you are spot on!


 



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Depending on what happens Monday, we should be seeking counsel. Resources should not be an issue, we must find an effective way to communicate and organize. Then decide how to file suit vs the city for our much deserved promotion.



-- Edited by Devil Dog on Saturday 26th of March 2016 12:36:39 PM

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My opinion... The test was so hard that the scammers could not blend in with the rest of the pack. Statistically impossible, such a difference in percentage of passers that took SAME exam on later date. Some definitely cheated it's all too obvious to us. If test had been straight forward or a ton of throwouts then the scammers would have had a better fit statistically with a long list. They could have blended better. The Captain and the lack of throwouts created this perfect storm to see what the cheaters that take makeups are doing. So as a person that struggled I'm happy for this exposure yet I'm sorry that the legit passers are martyrs to a system flaw that was never fixed.

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