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LadyD · Member

RE: April Class

96Times6 · Senior Member

I have received 100% credible intel that IAB is investigating EVERYONE who took make-up exams, including the 2014 Captains test. This does not mean people will not get promoted, but it DOES mean their promotions will be delayed "pending investigation". Get ready to see a whole bunch of people who are skipped for the first couple of Lt's classes.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

wereinbacklog wrote:
skiguy37 wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
Nypd 1234 wrote:
How many of these cheaters will be passed over?
24
Are you serious?
That's what I was told.

I heard the same exact number, 24, mostly LOD people.

Slate · Senior Member

sixmonthwonder wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
skiguy37 wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
Nypd 1234 wrote:
How many of these cheaters will be passed over?
24
Are you serious?
That's what I was told.
I heard the same exact number, 24, mostly LOD people.

is 24 for the first class or for the whole list

Nypd 1234 · Veteran Member

24 will be skipped this time around or total from the entire list?
According to the List* only 8 people were LOD

wereinbacklog · Guru

Nypd 1234 wrote:
24 will be skipped this time around or total from the entire list?
According to the List* only 8 people were LOD

I was told 24 were skipped over for the 26 needed

sixmonthwonder · Guru

I heard it was 24 total being investigated, sprinkled throughout the whole list, but obviously a good amount of them are going to be towards the top.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

wereinbacklog wrote:
Nypd 1234 wrote:
24 will be skipped this time around or total from the entire list?
According to the List* only 8 people were LOD
I was told 24 were skipped over for the 26 needed

Wow, that's nuts, I even have a shot at getting promoted this month if that's the case.

skiguy37 · Senior Member

wereinbacklog wrote:
Nypd 1234 wrote:
24 will be skipped this time around or total from the entire list?
According to the List* only 8 people were LOD
I was told 24 were skipped over for the 26 needed

So that means the list would get to #50. That would be great

Bklyn net · Senior Member

Aren't they still short 20 Lts ?

wereinbacklog · Guru

Bklyn net wrote:
Aren't they still short 20 Lts ?

Yes but they are trying to prolong the list.

Slate · Senior Member

skiguy37 wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
Nypd 1234 wrote:
24 will be skipped this time around or total from the entire list?
According to the List* only 8 people were LOD
I was told 24 were skipped over for the 26 needed
So that means the list would get to #50. That would be great

Could be even lower depending on time in rank, credits, jams

bigfoot45 · Guru

wereinbacklog wrote:
Bklyn net wrote:
Aren't they still short 20 Lts ?
Yes but they are trying to prolong the list.

What is the rationale for that? Just so they can say they have an active list. That is plain stupid. If you have vacancies, they should fill them until they no longer can.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

bigfoot45 wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
Bklyn net wrote:
Aren't they still short 20 Lts ?
Yes but they are trying to prolong the list.
What is the rationale for that? Just so they can say they have an active list. That is plain stupid. If you have vacancies, they should fill them until they no longer can.

I agree, they should fill the vacancies, but they won't.The list should be at least a little bigger too, the Department should have done something to curve the test. They are going to be short on lieutenants for a while because of how small this list is.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

How do the notifications for ID photos come down? Just in case I get lucky I don't want the incompetent PAA at my command to lose the message or something.

Do they call the command?

Just Joined · Member

True, the fact that person B asks person A for answers may not constitute "cheating" but the cheating may be why did person B take the test on an alternate day. If there actually happens to be an investigation that will probably be what the questions will be about.

Slate · Senior Member

sixmonthwonder wrote:
How do the notifications for ID photos come down? Just in case I get lucky I don't want the incompetent PAA at my command to lose the message or something.

Do they call the command?

Iam pretty sure they call the command

Slate · Senior Member

We'll know if the 24 thing is true when people in the 30s and 40s will start to get notified

sixmonthwonder · Guru

30's maybe not because there will be passovers for other reasons, but 40's the rumor is definitely true unless they're putting in more than 26. I'm not getting called unless they put more than 26 people in and the 24 passover rumor is true, but just in case I don't want the civilians to drop the ball.

If you're on vacation do they still notify you or they pass you over?

RMP6969 · Senior Member

Slate wrote:
sixmonthwonder wrote:
How do the notifications for ID photos come down? Just in case I get lucky I don't want the incompetent PAA at my command to lose the message or something.

Do they call the command?
Iam pretty sure they call the command

If I'm not mistaken I believe it comes down as a telephone message.

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

They call the desk and it's a telephone message. So hopefully you don't have the incompetent desk officer that day.

Bklyn net · Senior Member

Take the desk yourself lol

sixmonthwonder · Guru

There's no desk at my command, and 90% of the time a civilian is going to be the one answering the phone. I'm screwed, haha.

Boogie Knight · Senior Member

Slate wrote:
Boogie Knight wrote:
skiguy37 wrote:
Wow. We will find out real soon how serious the department is taking the cheating scandal.
There was no cheating involved with this exam.
Scenario: Taker taker A takes exam on April 18 and test taker B takes exam months later.
if test taker A wants to tell test taker B everything that was on the exam, he can. at this point, it is an issue of competitiveness.
There is no code of silence or contract anyone signed that restricts people from talking or listening after a test is given. Even that piece of sh!t that was allegedly outside of the school asking people what was on the exam is not cheating. A piece of sh!t, yes, but not a cheater.
Taker A can keep quiet to keep his/her advantage. Hence, competition.
Cheating occurs if both test takers when taking it at the same time and pass notes, give signals, text each other, etc. as the test is being administered. OR if the hard copy itself is provided to the test takers in advance of the exam is administered, that's cheating too.
it is what it is. As much as I myself hate to admit it, the holy observers/military/etc. have only the classic case of, Don't Hate The Player, Hate The Game.

-- Edited by Boogie Knight on Tuesday 15th of March 2016 01:04:08 AM
Interesting PERSONAL definition of cheating. Unfortunately you missed the part that says acting unfairly in order to gain advantage. Knowing the questions word for word before you take your makeup that were obtained after the protest session falls in that category. You dont need any codes of silence/contracts to act unfairly.....

It still does not define cheating. You guys are beating a dead horse.

IShredMajors · Senior Member

Boogie Knight is making the assumption that all that was passed along is word of mouth. I'd be willing to bet some of these makeup people got more than just that, hence the cheating.

Samiam32 · Senior Member

Id like to see how many sgts are willing to go in to a GO and say Yeah i asked people who took the test before me what questions were on the test and what procedures I should focus on. They gave me a bunch of information about what was on the test. But hey thats not cheating.

-- Edited by Samiam32 on Thursday 17th of March 2016 12:15:24 PM

Nypd 1234 · Veteran Member

What day are notifications for pictures coming down?

ltexm2015 · Veteran Member

I'd guess friday or Monday or Tuesday. Most likely monday if I had to pinpoint

-- Edited by ltexm2015 on Thursday 17th of March 2016 07:07:33 PM

Cheaterpolice · Veteran Member

Anyone know what list number they are getting too?

ltexm2015 · Veteran Member

Number went up to 28 from what I'm hearing.. don't know if more ppl were cleared or not. Anyone confirm?

skiguy37 · Senior Member

ltexm2015 wrote:
Number went up to 28 from what I'm hearing.. don't know if more ppl were cleared or not. Anyone confirm?

They are getting up to list #28? Or they are putting 28 people in?

ltexm2015 · Veteran Member

28 ppl in

RMP6969 · Senior Member

I heard 28 also. As far as what number they get up to is anyone's guest but it will be very very interesting.

skiguy37 · Senior Member

Alright people, it's 8am Monday... Start kicking down doors for some good Intel. When can we expect ID card notifications and what list # are they getting to?

ltexm2015 · Veteran Member

Last class was tues promotions before thanksgiving. Same for this class...I'd card came down tuesday. So prob looking at tomorrow

Nypd 1234 · Veteran Member

What time do the ID Card notifications come down ? Morning/afternoon ?

Slate · Senior Member

For October class it came down around 1300 on friday for a Monday/Tuesday report time and a Bmoc the following Friday

skiguy37 · Senior Member

WTF, way too quiet here considering 1st class may be going in soon

TheFinest911 · Senior Member

Everyone is Just Sitting in wait and anticipation on what's going to happen, Skiguy

ltexm2015 · Veteran Member

As of today class going in....I asked to make sure

Nypd 1234 · Veteran Member

Still passing over 24 scammers?

ltexm2015 · Veteran Member

Will be passovers....not sure how many

ltexm2015 · Veteran Member

Any one know what unit makes I'd card notifications??

Cheaterpolice · Veteran Member

If they don't put a class in this month I am going to lose my mind. Then you know that the test might be tossed completely. Hopefully we'll get some good news in the next few hours

Slate · Senior Member

ltexm2015 wrote:
Any one know what unit makes I'd card notifications??

I believe it's emd

ltexm2015 · Veteran Member

Guys I'm told calls WILL be coming down today...good luck

ltexm2015 · Veteran Member

Got call

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

ltexm2015 wrote:
Got call

Congratulations. Good luck to all. Let's see what number they get to.

papote170 · Senior Member

Ltexam2015....whats ur list # ?

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

papote170 wrote:
Ltexam2015....whats ur list # ?

That person is an original test taker. Let's put it that way.