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I-go-deep · Senior Member

LIST WILL NOT BE RELEASED UNTIL 2/17

DRPapi1983 · Guru

How big is this list?

I-go-deep · Senior Member

That, I don't know. But, I was told 0 changes.

sgt2be · Guru

Deep..who told u not till 17?

I-go-deep · Senior Member

sgt2be wrote:
Deep..who told u not till 17?

Check your PM.

ondeeair2321 · Guru

Jesus I told u guys this a month ago. And the list is not 204 or 208 it's 218. Fact and confirmed. And yes. THere were 0 changes. Believe what u want I don't care anymore. And yes. Big or whoever u can do away w my screen name. I'm done. Good luck for guys taking next one it ll be early next yr. that request is also FACT for April 2017

bigfoot45 · Guru

Ondeeair, you will always be welcomed on rising star.

DETSGT · Guru

ondeeair2321 wrote:
Jesus I told u guys this a month ago. And the list is not 204 or 208 it's 218. Fact and confirmed. And yes. THere were 0 changes. Believe what u want I don't care anymore. And yes. Big or whoever u can do away w my screen name. I'm done. Good luck for guys taking next one it ll be early next yr. that request is also FACT for April 2017

Previous facts you gave us were 128 original passers

+80 scammers

= 208 total passers

So we are not sure how you got to 218?

Flambino · Senior Member

I heard they are curving the test...passing score is 69.5.

PA-TROLL SGT · Veteran Member

What he meant is the list won't be released until February, 2017.

Drstylez12 · Senior Member

So u think a test next year?

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

Ondeeair you've told us a lot of things over the past month. What you fail to realize is no one has been listening and no one wants to hear anything from you anymore. Good intentions or not, you can't blame anybody but yourself and your "sources in the know" for it.

I-go-deep · Senior Member

I would think the test would be sooner than next year.

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

I'm guessing a test by the end of the year. Give everyone a quick turnaround.

Transitblows · Senior Member

They will announce a test before the list comes out at this rate

robocop31 · Veteran Member

The list will be exhausted or close to it before April 2017. So they are planning to go close to a year with no list? I think they should announce the test sooner and have it in December.

Sarge · Senior Member

DETSGT wrote:
ondeeair2321 wrote:
Jesus I told u guys this a month ago. And the list is not 204 or 208 it's 218. Fact and confirmed. And yes. THere were 0 changes. Believe what u want I don't care anymore. And yes. Big or whoever u can do away w my screen name. I'm done. Good luck for guys taking next one it ll be early next yr. that request is also FACT for April 2017
Previous facts you gave us were 128 original passers
+80 scammers
= 208 total passers

So we are not sure how you got to 218?

+1

sixmonthwonder · Guru

DETSGT wrote:
ondeeair2321 wrote:
Jesus I told u guys this a month ago. And the list is not 204 or 208 it's 218. Fact and confirmed. And yes. THere were 0 changes. Believe what u want I don't care anymore. And yes. Big or whoever u can do away w my screen name. I'm done. Good luck for guys taking next one it ll be early next yr. that request is also FACT for April 2017
Previous facts you gave us were 128 original passers
+80 scammers
= 208 total passers

So we are not sure how you got to 218?

Chief's nephews? Who knows.

It's likely that more scammers have been added. There are still people scamming now, maybe 10 extra people passed the test since then.

ohnoes · Senior Member

I predict test in November.

Su Madre 24 · Guru

ohnoes wrote:
I predict test in November.

Prob 1st quarter 2017

sgt2be · Guru

LIST NOT COMING OUT TODAY.....I GO DEEPS INFO is correct

sgt2be · Guru

FYI according to personnel we are down 45 lts....thats great news for a nice first class....whther it be feb 26 or in march i dont know

bigfoot45 · Guru

then why are the vacancies so low?

sgt2be · Guru

may be totsl w terminal...but they are looking for a nice size class

Slate · Senior Member

What u guys think was the average score of a make up
tester that passed

-- Edited by Slate on Wednesday 10th of February 2016 10:22:15 PM

sixmonthwonder · Guru

Is the list coming tomorrow? Or next week?

I-go-deep · Senior Member

Next week

DETSGT · Guru

Why the delay in releasing it if the job has it?

sgt2be · Guru

im hearing next week....i will say this...if the 17th comes and NO LIST...then you all can start saying about your bigger lists. I believe the info is legit....believe me..if it was 10 changes then id be saying that its 10. I dont care if its 10 changes or 0....i tell you the info i hear. THe best info combined with what we know indicated 204 or 218 list (more 218's talkers now) and a release 2/17. If its not accurate then im sorry

sgt2be · Guru

DETSGT wrote:
Why the delay in releasing it if the job has it?

It is not unheard of....previous test was received by nypd according to the top of the list and was not CERTIFIED until about 10 days later....Meaning job had the list for 10 days. Why? IDK....adding points??? maybe....Trying ot put together another LT test to announce ASAP? Maybe...youll have your theories

DETSGT · Guru

So for them to promote on Feb 26 is there like a cut off date of sorts that they need to release list?

-- Edited by DETSGT on Wednesday 10th of February 2016 10:43:32 PM

sixmonthwonder · Guru

Would be nice if something was leaked in the way of list numbers. At least some people must know their list numbers if the chiefs were looking at it.

sgt2be · Guru

usually 2 weeks det......BUT....im hearing possible march promotions for captains...so we may be in with those promotions ...WAY TOO EARLY to tell

DETSGT · Guru

If someone knows their list # pm me with a ballpark figure. I have a particular situation where I need to know asap :(

fodx · Guru

You know why there's zero changes? Because Mike Yanosik and other class instructors were not able to take the exam and therefore couldn't protest. THOSE are the people who get questions thrown out.

Slate · Senior Member

who calculates the points, dcas or job?

DETSGT · Guru

fodx wrote:
You know why there's zero changes? Because Mike Yanosik and other class instructors were not able to take the exam and therefore couldn't protest. THOSE are the people who get questions thrown out.

That has an effect. However on previous tests where instructors have not protested they still have had throwouts. I believe the new dcas commissioner has something to do with the late make up exam, long wait for list release, and no throwouts.

Bklyn net · Senior Member

yeh I thought we had really good arguments ..I guess 45 was good detsgt lol

fodx · Guru

A clusterfvck of an exam and not one throw out tells you it's a completely different animal now with these exams. I'll be honest, I'll study for the next exam but im not feeling too confident. It's started with the 2011 which was bad and just got worse from there. The next exam might be even worse.

-- Edited by fodx on Wednesday 10th of February 2016 11:10:35 PM

sgt2be · Guru

could be a double answer w a 218 list....i dont think its possible to rule it out with that size of list...but def no throwout

DETSGT · Guru

Bklyn net wrote:
yeh I thought we had really good arguments ..I guess 45 was good detsgt lol

Lol. No way it was brother. No way.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

sgt2be wrote:
could be a double answer w a 218 list....i dont think its possible to rule it out with that size of list...but def no throwout

Maybe they threw out 106 only and not very many people with a 69 had gotten it wrong so it only bumped it a little. Who knows, the word has been no changes though.

mjehangir96 · Senior Member

sgt2be wrote:
could be a double answer w a 218 list....i dont think its possible to rule it out with that size of list...but def no throwout

How are you so certain about no throw out and not so certain on possibility of a double?

sgt2be · Guru

iike you guys say..we just have to wait....i know the rumors are rampant....there is truth to some of this. Whether its 2/17...218 list...204 list...no throwouts...some of this will pan out. It really does bother me those vets never got those vet letters with 69....That to me is a huge sign. I pray whatever happens you guys can build off this experience

DOA · Senior Member

fodx wrote:
You know why there's zero changes? Because Mike Yanosik and other class instructors were not able to take the exam and therefore couldn't protest. THOSE are the people who get questions thrown out.

Keeping the instructors out of the process was a sign of a sea change in DCAS's attitude toward protests/changes. I never looked at it this way until now. I think losing the instructors definitely hurt but zero changes?!?!? It wasn't because all the amateur protests were bad. There weren't changes because they didn't want them. PERIOD.

Unfortunately, they may have picked the worst test to decide to toe the line on this 'policy.' 40 Percent of the list is make ups. They account for 1 in every 27 people who registered for the test but are nearly 1 of every 2 on the list; it's a 5 vs 70-percent passing rate. It's disgusting!

The job is ****ting a brick and they should be. Once this comes down lawsuits and injunctive relief will be sought the next day. This is a scandal and a public relations disaster.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

DOA wrote:
fodx wrote:
You know why there's zero changes? Because Mike Yanosik and other class instructors were not able to take the exam and therefore couldn't protest. THOSE are the people who get questions thrown out.
Keeping the instructors out of the process was a sign of a sea change in DCAS's attitude toward protests/changes. I never looked at it this way until now. I think losing the instructors definitely hurt but zero changes?!?!? It wasn't because all the amateur protests were bad. There weren't changes because they didn't want them. PERIOD.
Unfortunately, they may have picked the worst test to decide to toe the line on this 'policy.' 40 Percent of the list is make ups. They account for 1 in every 27 people who registered for the test but are nearly 1 of every 2 on the list; it's a 5 vs 70-percent passing rate. It's disgusting!
The job is ****ting a brick and they should be. Once this comes down lawsuits and injunctive relief will be sought the next day. This is a scandal and a public relations disaster.

Should take it to the media as well. How this cheating is still allowed in the modern world is beyond me.

common sense · Senior Member

I have been going on this site and reading all the crazy rumors for months now, if this one is true. I for one will be going to the NY Daily news with this test. They will have a field day when they see the ratio of who passed on the original date of the test and the months later religious observers make up exam. I Can see the Headlines now "NYPD ALLOWS CHEATING FOR JEWISH OFFICERS"

PA-TROLL SGT · Veteran Member

sixmonthwonder wrote:
DOA wrote:
fodx wrote:
You know why there's zero changes? Because Mike Yanosik and other class instructors were not able to take the exam and therefore couldn't protest. THOSE are the people who get questions thrown out.
Keeping the instructors out of the process was a sign of a sea change in DCAS's attitude toward protests/changes. I never looked at it this way until now. I think losing the instructors definitely hurt but zero changes?!?!? It wasn't because all the amateur protests were bad. There weren't changes because they didn't want them. PERIOD.
Unfortunately, they may have picked the worst test to decide to toe the line on this 'policy.' 40 Percent of the list is make ups. They account for 1 in every 27 people who registered for the test but are nearly 1 of every 2 on the list; it's a 5 vs 70-percent passing rate. It's disgusting!
The job is ****ting a brick and they should be. Once this comes down lawsuits and injunctive relief will be sought the next day. This is a scandal and a public relations disaster.
Should take it to the media as well. How this cheating is still allowed in the modern world is beyond me.

Maybe we can get some air time on The Muppet Show.

-- Edited by PA-TROLL SGT on Thursday 11th of February 2016 12:04:55 AM

common sense · Senior Member

with todays anti-cop media just leak it to the Daily news one of the founders of #blacklivesmatters works there. Showing how the Religious Observers get such special treatment to get promoted to an executive level while the minority community of this job are not allowed to pass, since they did not have throw outs while almost if not all previous test had at least 1 throw out.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

common sense wrote:
with todays anti-cop media just leak it to the Daily news one of the founders of #blacklivesmatters works there. Showing how the Religious Observers get such special treatment to get promoted to an executive level while the minority community of this job are not allowed to pass, since they did not have throw outs while almost if not all previous test had at least 1 throw out.

True, not a lot of black or Hispanic Orthodox Jews. Might be a few in the drill scam group. Still, this is definitely stacking the odds against many minorities who took the test on April 17th and got screwed by a test that should have had changes and didn't.