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ondeeair2321 · Guru

The Facts---what we do know

Windeast · Senior Member

So is it still safe to say I can drink a 12 pack at least 4 hours before tour?

Flambino · Senior Member

So basically:

208 passers - Confirmed

List requested by Feb. 17th - Confirmed

19 changes submitted by TVB - NOT confirmed but reliable intel.

Am I missing anything?

That's not much actual info when you consider we've all been posting on this site for almost 10 months.

Bklyn net · Senior Member

no vet letters for ppl who failed -confirmed

Jman · Veteran Member

ondeeair2321 wrote:
I ve seen guys really breaking down lately over this debacle----and of course this exam has been a horror. But heres what i know is fact----128 original passers---2601 sat for exam. 80 makeup passers----120 sat for makeup. this is why the list rose to this 208 number. these are facts. guesses, rumors, whatever have you----the job is NOT,NOT,NOT,NOT going to have a list of 208. i dont care what u "think,who u know,past things"----if u believe this u know nothing. it simply wont happen. and this is deirectly from someone in 1pp involved in process. im not saying a big list,a small list----but there will be at the minimum a couple to handful of changes and some,some----will get over the line. there could be a bunch of changes---and the list will be a decent size. so stop guesstimating----unlike other exams we got nothing. there is a possibility that dcas will say they need extension on the 17th. but i have been told also that DCAS doesnt shoot down a majority of the TVB s recommendations, from somone who has been dealing with this for YEARS. so if this 19 changes submitted is indeed fact---which i dont know-----expect a bunch of changes. and yes its because of liabilty reasons and article 78 lawsuits----if the TVB saw major flaws in exam it doesnt strengthen the city s case when they sue. and no the city doesnt like lawsuits over exams---if u think they dont care ur wrong. it was explained to me by a reliable source yesterday. so everyone RELAX---this wait might be a very, very, very good thing. maybe not----but all this site has become is guessing----until 17th lets stop

-- Edited by ondeeair2321 on Wednesday 3rd of February 2016 01:20:03 PM

God you don't shut up. You're such a long winded whiney vagina.

EDPs R Fun · Senior Member

19 changes was submitted (confirmed). I know the TVB Lt and he told me for A FACT they submitted 19 changes. In his opinion, 10-12 will stick.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

EDPs R Fun wrote:
19 changes was submitted (confirmed). I know the TVB Lt and he told me for A FACT they submitted 19 changes. In his opinion, 10-12 will stick.

Why wouldn't all 19 stick though? DCAS doesn't know anything about the Patrol Guide, right?

EDPs R Fun · Senior Member

He saw the protests that were submitted and he believes that 10-12 of them hold strong arguments and make valid points. He saw the actual protests submitted so he definitely has an insight on how articulate people were with these protests.

machine · Senior Member

Flambino, the only thing closed to being fact is the 19 proposals as per EDP... everything else in ur list is unconfirmed.......fact.

wisecop · Senior Member

EDPs R Fun wrote:
19 changes was submitted (confirmed). I know the TVB Lt and he told me for A FACT they submitted 19 changes. In his opinion, 10-12 will stick.

common sense and wisdom tells me that there we many flaws on this test, never the less 10-12 changes is very unlikely a list of 257 names with number #1 as a throw out is a possibility.

mjehangir96 · Senior Member

sixmonthwonder wrote:
EDPs R Fun wrote:
19 changes was submitted (confirmed). I know the TVB Lt and he told me for A FACT they submitted 19 changes. In his opinion, 10-12 will stick.
Why wouldn't all 19 stick though? DCAS doesn't know anything about the Patrol Guide, right?

Because in The finalization process , capt. Insano was involved and he knows the patrol guide . He did counter many of the strong protests for throw outs with his strong reasonings not to be throw outs or changes .

ondeeair2321 · Guru

This is what I mean. People are guessing as am I when we don't have facts. The fact I was told by someone in process is same as what others have said----dcas doesn't stray far from what tvb recommends. They never do! They might not take all them but most. Fact. I will try n get numbers of this on past exams. And jman---ur irrelevant now. Exposed as the rat u are. IAB volunteer and 2 time capt failure. Yes I'm a failure but u must except u are too lol. Loser.

-- Edited by ondeeair2321 on Wednesday 3rd of February 2016 02:32:30 PM

wisecop · Senior Member

In 2010 the department was force to curve the captain's test because giving another test was time consuming and would have created an overwhelming amount of vacancies. This would be a very good possibility for those who keep pushing this high throw out wishes.

ondeeair2321 · Guru

Also confirmed was that capt insano s counter doesn't have as much weight as u guys think! The tvb outweighs him otherwise their is no reason to have a tvb. Stop listening to this BS it is not true. The tvb and dcas hear a reasoning but if it's jacked it's jacked. So stop acting like this guy tom cruised jack Nicholson on the stand. It didn't happen that way ease edp ask ur friend of this. I have asked many and it's simply not true.

wisecop · Senior Member

ondeeair2321 wrote:
Also confirmed was that capt insano s counter doesn't have as much weight as u guys think! The tvb outweighs him otherwise their is no reason to have a tvb. Stop listening to this BS it is not true. The tvb and dcas hear a reasoning but if it's jacked it's jacked. So stop acting like this guy tom cruised jack Nicholson on the stand. It didn't happen that way ease edp ask ur friend of this. I have asked many and it's simply not true.

What is your issues praising "Insano" and trashing him @ the same time? The only time anyone mentions that he's is being praised is when you mention it. When scrolling to see who's doing it... It's no one talking about this guy, just the voice in your head. You even gave him a nickname. I wouldn't even know who he was if you didn't mention "the guy with the ponytail" 2 weeks before the test. But now that we know who he is, from asking around this guy takes pride in this ****. He's done it before and he did it again. Wrote a test dotted his "I"s, Crossed his "T"s. Was it a great accomplishment probably not, as least to him it was. Stop talking about this dude already, get off your desk and go do what you do best, ask about this test.

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-- Edited by wisecop on Wednesday 3rd of February 2016 02:57:41 PM

ondeeair2321 · Guru

Wise cop was that an insult?

Flambino · Senior Member

machine wrote:
Flambino, the only thing closed to being fact is the 19 proposals as per EDP... everything else in ur list is unconfirmed.......fact.

So the passing numbers aren't confirmed? Is it a case that it's been said so many times it was just assumed to be fact? Does anyone know the number of passers? Am I asking too many questions? Lol.

wisecop · Senior Member

ondeeair2321 wrote:
Wise cop was that an insult?

its really not, is desperation let's concentrate on this info.

sig226 · Senior Member

19 questions submitted is NOT a fact. As per one of the tvb Lts.
Also vucinaj rebuttal has no pull is bunch of bs. If thats the case why bother him to present his point it nullifies all the so called "fairness" of the system. Logically, dcas has to meet him half way, which means out of 10-12 questions half might have some value

EDPs R Fun · Senior Member

Hey Sig, I know one of those Lt's and he told me that verbatim. He told me 19 changes were submitted. He told me 10-12 looked strong.

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

To answer the subject of this thread: nothing. Nothing is "fact."

The "fact" that no one can grasp this concept is why every thread is a broken record of crazy theories and personal opinions. 10 months later and we know NOTHING yet people try and pass "fact" from people "in the know." If nothing concrete has come out in 10 months (as we've seen) we just have to sit and wait. It is out of our control the moment we put the pencils down at the protest session (some of us anyways because I know many failures who didn't bother going), so why stress it any longer?

wisecop · Senior Member

sig226 wrote:
19 questions submitted is NOT a fact. As per one of the tvb Lts.
Also vucinaj rebuttal has no pull is bunch of bs. If thats the case why bother him to present his point it nullifies all the so called "fairness" of the system. Logically, dcas has to meet him half way, which means out of 10-12 questions half might have some value

I know this sounds redundant, but as per a LT. in tvb.. There were 9 submissions...4 questions were thought to be possible throwouts with good/decent arguments, 5 questions were good for double/triples. Allegedly "Insano" had very good rebuttals for most of them. These are all allegations. btw.

EDPs R Fun · Senior Member

With Insano thrown into the mix really left a lot of open questions. The question I have is how did DCAS sway with Insano's mettling and defending every submission.

Transitblows · Senior Member

This is why this forum is great. You have two people saying they have spoken to lts on the tvb with two very didferent things to say about it. Sybil (this forum) is raging today.

-- Edited by Transitblows on Wednesday 3rd of February 2016 03:16:16 PM

EDPs R Fun · Senior Member

Well, I'm done posting here so good luck. You have to choose who you want to believe. For now, I wish you all luck.

Transitblows · Senior Member

EDPs R Fun wrote:
Well, I'm done posting here so good luck. You have to choose who you want to believe. For now, I wish you all luck.

It is bot my intention to discredit you in anyway. you have posted that for a while now( your posts on the tvb). Just more stating that this is why people on here go crazy. You have your posts for a while now and than someone else decides to say something else to contradict it And no matter how many times we say we all need to just wait and step back now, people still feel the need to stir the pot so to speak and ignite this craziness all over again

TransitSucks · Senior Member

what happen to the number 296 ppl that pass?

Team J · Senior Member

wisecop wrote:
sig226 wrote:
19 questions submitted is NOT a fact. As per one of the tvb Lts.
Also vucinaj rebuttal has no pull is bunch of bs. If thats the case why bother him to present his point it nullifies all the so called "fairness" of the system. Logically, dcas has to meet him half way, which means out of 10-12 questions half might have some value
I know this sounds redundant, but as per a LT. in tvb.. There were 9 submissions...4 questions were thought to be possible throwouts with good/decent arguments, 5 questions were good for double/triples. Allegedly "Insano" had very good rebuttals for most of them. These are all allegations. btw.

Truthfully Wisecop I think your unreliable. On more then one occasion You mislead us that you had valuable information. The most recent one you just disappeared after the fact and came back like nothing happen. Edp has been consistent stating the 19 submissions and I have heard the same. We all can have our guesses hunches and opinions , however unless you have concrete evidence and are ready to back it up its best not to say so. All it does is bring everyone on the board asking questions that can't be answered. It's a waiting game.

Samiam32 · Senior Member

So now we have a conflict with whether 9 or 19 changes were submitted. You guys talking about the same Lt?

wisecop · Senior Member

Team J wrote:
wisecop wrote:
sig226 wrote:
19 questions submitted is NOT a fact. As per one of the tvb Lts.
Also vucinaj rebuttal has no pull is bunch of bs. If thats the case why bother him to present his point it nullifies all the so called "fairness" of the system. Logically, dcas has to meet him half way, which means out of 10-12 questions half might have some value
I know this sounds redundant, but as per a LT. in tvb.. There were 9 submissions...4 questions were thought to be possible throwouts with good/decent arguments, 5 questions were good for double/triples. Allegedly "Insano" had very good rebuttals for most of them. These are all allegations. btw.
Truthfully Wisecop I think your unreliable. On more then one occasion You mislead us that you had valuable information. The most recent one you just disappeared after the fact and came back like nothing happen. Edp has been consistent stating the 19 submissions and I have heard the same. We all can have our guesses hunches and opinions , however unless you have concrete evidence and are ready to back it up its best not to say so. All it does is bring everyone on the board asking questions that can't be answered. It's a waiting game.

Well if you were being truthful, you wouldn't have to say "Truthfully," its testimony 101 but you hope I'm wrong and unreliable so that you can keep hoping. I have not one time attacked EDP because in essence he's just trying to help as I am. I don't have the facts and never claim to, but I respect your opinion. Let's see who will disappear when the list is released.

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-- Edited by wisecop on Wednesday 3rd of February 2016 04:08:05 PM

Drstylez12 · Senior Member

So what's the possibility that all 19 would hold up?

wisecop · Senior Member

Drstylez12 wrote:
So what's the possibility that all 19 would hold up?

Idk, Ask Team J....

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

Drstylez12 wrote:
So what's the possibility that all 19 would hold up?

The same as zero holding up.

Devil Dog · Senior Member

scheduleB_magnet wrote:
Drstylez12 wrote:
So what's the possibility that all 19 would hold up?
The same as zero holding up.

I never heard 19, and I think that's wistful thinking. There were not 19 flawed questions on this test.

tinydeer · Member

Devil Dog wrote:
scheduleB_magnet wrote:
Drstylez12 wrote:
So what's the possibility that all 19 would hold up?
The same as zero holding up.
I never heard 19, and I think that's wistful thinking. There were not 19 flawed questions on this test.

Can confirm. 19.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

tinydeer wrote:
Devil Dog wrote:
scheduleB_magnet wrote:
Drstylez12 wrote:
So what's the possibility that all 19 would hold up?
The same as zero holding up.
I never heard 19, and I think that's wistful thinking. There were not 19 flawed questions on this test.
Can confirm. 19.

I'm pretty sure there will be changes,...how many? It's anyone's guess,...

Windeast · Senior Member

End is nearer today... Good luck to all.

Junius78 · Veteran Member

Windeast wrote:
End is nearer today... Good luck to all.

Lol

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Windeast wrote:
End is nearer today... Good luck to all.

Lmao!!!!! I'm going to start charging you guys for using my line

Chew11 · Senior Member

Doctor papi where did you go to med school?

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Chew11 wrote:
Doctor papi where did you go to med school?

Lol

sig226 · Senior Member

Doctor huh?)) I guess some users have no street experience lol

Su Madre 24 · Guru

I look forward to seeing everyone's favorite sunnyside Dominican in the 2017 Lt exam forum.

ondeeair2321 · Guru

There is no word of any type of 200 person list folks. I ve asked around. I'm not discrediting u machine, it's just no one here in palace has heard a word about no changes and 200 something final list. And some of these people would know.

Bigguy69 · Senior Member

ondeeair2321 wrote:
There is no word of any type of 200 person list folks. I ve asked around. I'm not discrediting u machine, it's just no one here in palace has heard a word about no changes and 200 something final list. And some of these people would know.

So if there are changes like you say, when will we start seeing vet letters ? You know someone who deals with this process ? What is this "process" you speak of ?

Doggieloverwoof · Guru

Bigguy69 wrote:
ondeeair2321 wrote:
There is no word of any type of 200 person list folks. I ve asked around. I'm not discrediting u machine, it's just no one here in palace has heard a word about no changes and 200 something final list. And some of these people would know.
So if there are changes like you say, when will we start seeing vet letters ? You know someone who deals with this process ? What is this "process" you speak of ?

What if the vets that failed already used their points for the sgt test and that's why they haven't received anything. Or the ones that haven't used their points, didn't pick up any points after the changes? Either way didn't someone here say that the list can be released without the letters?

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

He's been saying 7-10 changes so we will have to see vet letters eventually according to Ondeeair. When that happens is anyone's guess. But people with actual credibility for this test have come out in recent days and have been saying little to no changes which explains why Devil Dog was the only one down at DCAS this week and he received his notification via email, not mail. Not looking good

DatnoidS · Veteran Member

Herpes sore coming back creating threads

GDASSCLUB · Senior Member

I talked to some units @ the plaza that deal with the list. They told me no changes and list is the 200. Still not sold on that. I feel everybody is still getting there info from this forum. All the important people on this forum have yet to see the list with there own a eyes, so therefore everything is hearsay.

PA-TROLL SGT · Veteran Member