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scheduleB_magnet · Guru

For those of you that passed this debacle...

70please · Senior Member

Never ever thought I would say yes ... But 190 at top pay ... God damn

sixmonthwonder · Guru

Probably, though if the exam is going to be like this I don't know. Would have to start studying now.

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

70please wrote:
Never ever thought I would say yes ... But 190 at top pay ... God damn

Is it 190 now? Wow. Maybe I should start reading again.

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

sixmonthwonder wrote:
Probably, though if the exam is going to be like this I don't know. Would have to start studying now.

My thoughts exactly. These tests have become so random and arbitrary it's difficult to gauge what to focus on. And at the Captain rank, you need to know that whole mess. Decisions, decisions...

bigfoot45 · Guru

Can someone post the Captain and LT pay scale. My first inclination is to say no but I'm hearing rumors of possible cash OT in the future.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

I feel the days of "cramming" for six months when they announce the test are over. If the captain exams are going to be like this test I may at least have to start reading AG and O.O. now. The thought of studying again so soon after what we just went through makes me physically I'll though.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

I don't know if anyone is going to have the tables that take into account the new contract.

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

bigfoot45 wrote:
Can someone post the Captain and LT pay scale. My first inclination is to say no but I'm hearing rumors of possible cash OT in the future.

Yeah rumor is cash OT and Cat 2 cars. Might be worth considering since the job is killing the LT rank day by day.

Su Madre 24 · Guru

The reengineering gave all Capts Category 2 cars

Su Madre 24 · Guru

The rumor is up to 180 cash ot for Capts

RMP6969 · Senior Member

Nope. I could care less about that rank. It's all about QOL for me.

Member

Na...as rmp6969 said, all about QOL...I'm into the steady fri-sat or sun-mon... plus as capt or above they can bother u off duty...I'm not a fan of having to deal with job stuff off duty...my time with family is my time...however cash OT to the rank will make things type tempting...lol...

RMP6969 · Senior Member

They can keep their Cat 2 car and cash OT. I think what it all comes down to is if you plan on staying past 20 and if your reaching for the stars. I'm not and I could care less about the stars. 20 and out for me. Retiring a Lt is a good enough pension for me.

Member

Yea I agree....except I plan on doing 25...but I'm done studying...retired in LT rank will be nice

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

RMP6969 wrote:
Nope. I could care less about that rank. It's all about QOL for me.

QOL is the goal for everyone. But Cash OT is huge. Also I heard they are playing with giving Captains steady RDOs. That would be huge as well.

Beuford T Justice · Veteran Member

Pay scales

Slate · Senior Member

Lt on patrol-probably Yes, Lt in the gig-probably No

Suckerpunched · Veteran Member

Im up for the challenge.

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

Lots of money to be made.

sig226 · Senior Member

Dont be foolish...take the damn test. Do your 10 years in rank and get out with birdie pension.
As far as Lt in detail concerned...i am in a detail where Lt's get OT and annually make mid 170-180k. SA pay Lt just retired made 202k. But thats almost 500 hrs of overtime. Constantly chasing ot instead of spending it with family. Meanwhile cpt without braking a sweat with a new contract makes 190k and now possibility of cash ot
take the test, pass it, if you dont like it, you could always go back to Lt

sig226 · Senior Member

As a sgt you are answering 1700 Lt and several hundred cpts and some di's ins
as Lt you are answering several hundred cpt's some di's and insp
as a cpt you will answer di's insp and occasionally get on podium.
All those meetings with chiefs are fvcking joke. Just play the game
Take the damn test...

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

sig226 wrote:

Dont be foolish...take the damn test. Do your 10 years in rank and get out with birdie pension.
As far as Lt in detail concerned...i am in a detail where Lt's get OT and annually make mid 170-180k. SA pay Lt just retired made 202k. But thats almost 500 hrs of overtime. Constantly chasing ot instead of spending it with family. Meanwhile cpt without braking a sweat with a new contract makes 190k and now possibility of cash ot
take the test, pass it, if you dont like it, you could always go back to Lt

Sig226 BE LIKE..." Don't be foolish...

...TAKE THE DAMN TEST!"

-- Edited by scheduleB_magnet on Thursday 21st of May 2015 04:17:10 AM

sig226 · Senior Member

Haha haha, you know how we do!

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

sig226 wrote:
Haha haha, you know how we do!

If I ever make Captain, I will personally thank you for this b*tch slap.

sig226 · Senior Member

First round on me kid

Suckerpunched · Veteran Member

sig226 wrote:
Dont be foolish...take the damn test. Do your 10 years in rank and get out with birdie pension.
As far as Lt in detail concerned...i am in a detail where Lt's get OT and annually make mid 170-180k. SA pay Lt just retired made 202k. But thats almost 500 hrs of overtime. Constantly chasing ot instead of spending it with family. Meanwhile cpt without braking a sweat with a new contract makes 190k and now possibility of cash ot
take the test, pass it, if you dont like it, you could always go back to Lt

True. The Lt has to work 15 months while the Capt works for 12 months to get the same pay. Thats what 500 hrs of OT equate to--- 3 more months away from family.

-- Edited by Suckerpunched on Thursday 21st of May 2015 05:07:18 AM

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

I think after the holidays I'll pick up the book and start doing light reading.

UC5673 · Veteran Member

Think you guys are reading it wrong. Top pay capt is $163. And that's in 2018. If they do pass the ot. Then maybe $180. In 2018.

UC5673 · Veteran Member

Some people are making that now as a Sgt. (SDS/SSA)!!!!! With less headaches.

IShredMajors · Senior Member

UC5673 wrote:
Think you guys are reading it wrong. Top pay capt is $163. And that's in 2018. If they do pass the ot. Then maybe $180. In 2018.

Yes $163k plus night diff, longevity, holiday, uniform allowance. The 2 charts posted above are not apples to apples. The LT chart includes longevity pay, the Capt chart does not, so the gap is bigger than it appears according to those numbers.

UC5673 · Veteran Member

Oh OK. I can see that now.

tensixone · Senior Member

About a 35k raise

DETSGT · Guru

I'm hearing all Capts will have either fri/sat or sun/mon rdo.

Also the posibiity of cash ot?

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

DETSGT wrote:
I'm hearing all Capts will have either fri/sat or sun/mon rdo.

Also the posibiity of cash ot?

That would be more than enough incentive and motivation for me to hit that next rank. I'll take a verbal lashing here and there for that.

DETSGT · Guru

And a category 2

bigfoot45 · Guru

scheduleB_magnet wrote:
DETSGT wrote:
I'm hearing all Capts will have either fri/sat or sun/mon rdo.

Also the posibiity of cash ot?
That would be more than enough incentive and motivation for me to hit that next rank. I'll take a verbal lashing here and there for that.

Listen, nothing wrong with reaching for the stars. If that is what you want.

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

bigfoot45 wrote:
scheduleB_magnet wrote:
DETSGT wrote:
I'm hearing all Capts will have either fri/sat or sun/mon rdo.

Also the posibiity of cash ot?
That would be more than enough incentive and motivation for me to hit that next rank. I'll take a verbal lashing here and there for that.
Listen, nothing wrong with reaching for the stars. If that is what you want.

All I want is to make this job work for me and my family, whatever and wherever that may be...

richpd2 · Veteran Member

Think realistically, all the years working, chasing overtime and then closing in on 20 years and not being able to afford to take terminal leave to make more money or be the Captain with a cat 2 car, fri/sat rdo's and a full birds pension waiting for him. That coupled with the weekly platoon commanders meetings and limited overtime we have out here and its an easy decision to make for you guys on the fence. That LT making 180 is killing himself to bring those numbers in when the captain does he shift and leaves..study and take the next test. My Captains test was a debacle in itself but study hard and it pays off...normally

-- Edited by richpd2 on Friday 22nd of May 2015 02:59:59 AM

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

richpd2 wrote:
Think realistically, all the years working, chasing overtime and then closing in on 20 years and not being able to afford to take terminal leave to make more money or be the Captain with a cat 2 car, fri/sat rdo's and a full birds pension waiting for him. That coupled with the weekly platoon commanders meetings and limited overtime we have out here and its an easy decision to make for you guys on the fence. That LT making 180 is killing himself to bring those numbers in when the captain does he shift and leaves..study and take the next test. My Captains test was a debacle in itself but study hard and it pays off...normally

-- Edited by richpd2 on Friday 22nd of May 2015 02:59:59 AM

Great way to put things in perspective.

96Times6 · Senior Member

scheduleB_magnet wrote:
richpd2 wrote:
Think realistically, all the years working, chasing overtime and then closing in on 20 years and not being able to afford to take terminal leave to make more money or be the Captain with a cat 2 car, fri/sat rdo's and a full birds pension waiting for him. That coupled with the weekly platoon commanders meetings and limited overtime we have out here and its an easy decision to make for you guys on the fence. That LT making 180 is killing himself to bring those numbers in when the captain does he shift and leaves..study and take the next test. My Captains test was a debacle in itself but study hard and it pays off...normally

-- Edited by richpd2 on Friday 22nd of May 2015 02:59:59 AM
Great way to put things in perspective.

Yes this makes perfect sense. To put things into perspective, there are plenty of PO's out there who claim to make more than Sgts. It may be true, but at what cost. The same rule applies here; sure, there are plenty of Lt's out there who make as much as, or even more than Captains, but again at what cost?

Would I rather make $163 + with the guaranteed take home car? In the words of Sarah Palin; You betcha!!!

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

96Times6 wrote:
scheduleB_magnet wrote:
richpd2 wrote:
Think realistically, all the years working, chasing overtime and then closing in on 20 years and not being able to afford to take terminal leave to make more money or be the Captain with a cat 2 car, fri/sat rdo's and a full birds pension waiting for him. That coupled with the weekly platoon commanders meetings and limited overtime we have out here and its an easy decision to make for you guys on the fence. That LT making 180 is killing himself to bring those numbers in when the captain does he shift and leaves..study and take the next test. My Captains test was a debacle in itself but study hard and it pays off...normally

-- Edited by richpd2 on Friday 22nd of May 2015 02:59:59 AM
Great way to put things in perspective.
Yes this makes perfect sense. To put things into perspective, there are plenty of PO's out there who claim to make more than Sgts. It may be true, but at what cost. The same rule applies here; sure, there are plenty of Lt's out there who make as much as, or even more than Captains, but again at what cost?
Would I rather make $163 + with the guaranteed take home car? In the words of Sarah Palin; You betcha!!!

The goal is to get paid more to do less. Easiest way to do that is to keep passing tests.

96Times6 · Senior Member

scheduleB_magnet wrote:
96Times6 wrote:
scheduleB_magnet wrote:
richpd2 wrote:
Think realistically, all the years working, chasing overtime and then closing in on 20 years and not being able to afford to take terminal leave to make more money or be the Captain with a cat 2 car, fri/sat rdo's and a full birds pension waiting for him. That coupled with the weekly platoon commanders meetings and limited overtime we have out here and its an easy decision to make for you guys on the fence. That LT making 180 is killing himself to bring those numbers in when the captain does he shift and leaves..study and take the next test. My Captains test was a debacle in itself but study hard and it pays off...normally

-- Edited by richpd2 on Friday 22nd of May 2015 02:59:59 AM
Great way to put things in perspective.
Yes this makes perfect sense. To put things into perspective, there are plenty of PO's out there who claim to make more than Sgts. It may be true, but at what cost. The same rule applies here; sure, there are plenty of Lt's out there who make as much as, or even more than Captains, but again at what cost?
Would I rather make $163 + with the guaranteed take home car? In the words of Sarah Palin; You betcha!!!
The goal is to get paid more to do less. Easiest way to do that is to keep passing tests.

Indeed.

sgt2be · Guru

So you guys know....I talk to a bunch of captains....for the most part they say they wish they would have stayed a lt. I know ones hooked up and say it. It's really a personal decision. But for me...I'm not willing to let this job run my life. If you don't think that will happen as a capt then ur in for a rude awakening. 180k sounds nice...but now when my chance of divorce sky rockets bc of that rank...I have no desire for the srars. Maybe I'll be saluting some of you guys in the future...but not u schedule b...I'll salute u w my middle finger!

sixmonthwonder · Guru

They say that until they retire and never have to work again. Every old guy I meet who's happily retired and never got a second job retired as a captain or above.

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

sgt2be wrote:
So you guys know....I talk to a bunch of captains....for the most part they say they wish they would have stayed a lt. I know ones hooked up and say it. It's really a personal decision. But for me...I'm not willing to let this job run my life. If you don't think that will happen as a capt then ur in for a rude awakening. 180k sounds nice...but now when my chance of divorce sky rockets bc of that rank...I have no desire for the srars. Maybe I'll be saluting some of you guys in the future...but not u schedule b...I'll salute u w my middle finger!

I expect a full salute. And I wont acknowledge you until you're at full attention outside my office LOL. You're the man sgt2be!

IShredMajors · Senior Member

Sgt2be would be like:

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

IShredMajors wrote:
Sgt2be would be like:

That's right!

richpd2 · Veteran Member

talk about increasing divorce rates with your work life... I wonder what killing yourself as a LT living at work non stop your entire career does to your home life.

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

richpd2 wrote:
talk about increasing divorce rates with your work life... I wonder what killing yourself as a LT living at work non stop your entire career does to your home life.

I agree with this sentiment. Most of us, I am guilty of this, are too concerned with how much OT we make. Granted it is for the benefit of our families, but you really do miss out on a lot which causes strain on our families as well. The next rank is really about what you want to do with your time left on the job. I believe the LT rank is really the last rank where the job doesnt completely on you. Yes, you still have meetings to attend and prepare for, the accountability is much higher than SGT, but Captain is a different animal all in itself.