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Stiggity has a very valid point with the board. But my buddy is insistent they will not give another test soon. not going to happen. he is sure they will make a list----why? because the dept doesnt care that this exam was a debacle. they really dont. word is already at 1pp that the Panel of Lt s will be looking closely at this very exam because 128 is the lowest percentage of passers---EVER. and there will--no matter what anyone says----be probably close to 10 doubles/throwouts. just wait and see. That is a fact---my buddy confirmed that and Im sure some of you others can back that up. thats right---EVER. never before on any exam has this low a number passed. and the dept does indeeed take money out of budget to run exam---their fighting over nickels----there wont be another exam. list between 400-500---watch
i shouldnt state they dont care----they just want a list that will produce Lt s the next few years. thats what they care about. and the top is well aware of this debacle. however they were aware last time and this occurred. they ll get their list tho-----im not saying its any integrity issue. they wont just throw out to throw out. but why is there 213 between 65-69? and yes---thats the number. someone else can probably verify this. 400-500. u can battle it all u want-----thats gonna be the number
Ondeeair why dont you just stop posting. Everything you say contradicts things you have previously posted. For instance, not even one week ago you posted this:
"Here now---talked with my buddy. So OMAP has the 128 number hard---off the scantron results. It is not rumor. The upper brass and yes---the RE-ENGINEERING team is pushing for another exam late next year 2016. this is the new way the job wants the exam process to go. more exams with smaller lists, to get the creme de la creme. They expect a list of around 225-275 with a couple of throwouts and the add ons(military/sabbath) who havent taken exam. and--they are fine with that. this is exactly what they have said to my buddy. Once again--not a rumor. My buddy thinks that this protest session is basically the most important session that has ever been. these questions are stacked---yes the Lt from 13th and Capt Insano worked tooth and nail to make these un-protestable. but every point is going to count on this exam--every one. there are no promo schools guys there--a first for Lts and a mark against us. i think im too far out of this to be in running---but it makes me sick to think these two evil maniacs are going to win. get to the sessions if you are close----it could be the difference. lets see what happens this week."
Just shaddup.
-- Edited by Iliketurtles on Monday 18th of May 2015 01:05:27 PM
Ondeeair: I appreciate the info you put on here, it is very entertaining to say the least. I feel I have not been on here long to know if there is any truth behind your postings. I do believe you have a buddy at OMAP and do believe you post with good intentions. I do feel you tell us how it is once you get any info from your buddy at OMAP, which is appreciated. I am not second guessing you, however, I am now questioning the validity of the info you get coming down the channels from OMAP.
Last week I do recall when you posted "the RE-ENGINEERING team is pushing for another exam late next year 2016. this is the new way the job wants the exam process to go. more exams with smaller lists, to get the creme de la creme. and that hey expect a list of around 225-275 with a couple of throwouts and the add ons"
Two days ago you posted "you heard it here first" that your buddy stated least 400+ and another exam in 4years. in this same post, two day ago. you stated "by the looks of it--im saying 5,6, to 9 throw outs."
TODAY you are reporting "probably close to 10 doubles/throwouts and now mention the list will be anywhere between 400-500.
My concern today is that you are reporting they will not throw out questions just to throw out question, however, you post with confidence that there will be close to 10 doubles/throwouts. From the beginning, it has been no secret that Capt Insano and his team has worked tooth and nail to screw us over and make this exam not only a nightmare but to make it impossible to protest. With that being said how can anyone say questions would NOT be thrown out just to throw them out but yet feel confident that there will be close to 10 doubles/throwouts. that only is a contridiction!
Unless your buddy at OMAP and his fellow co-workers took this exam and attended the protest it would be impossible for anyone at OMAP to make these predictions. Again I appreciate your info, but truth of the matter is time will tell, and that my friend is my prediction!!
-- Edited by DOS_EQUIS on Monday 18th of May 2015 02:04:48 PM
I appreciate all the info . Everyone knows in this department things and decisions can change by the day. We should be happy to get some info on what's going on. Thanks Ondeeair.
Guys, he isn't giving you info, just conspiracy theories. When there Are 8 throw outs and one of his many ramblings comes true, he's just going to come here and say "see! I told you so!!"
I dont believe hes 'rambling' and making things up, i believe this is actual info Ondeair is receiving whether its correct or not. He was correct with many things for the '11 sgt exam.
I dont believe hes 'rambling' and making things up, i believe this is actual info Ondeair is receiving whether its correct or not. He was correct with many things for the '11 sgt exam.
I dont believe hes 'rambling' and making things up, i believe this is actual info Ondeair is receiving whether its correct or not. He was correct with many things for the '11 sgt exam.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day...
LoL It's a shame we cant like a post. In my opinion this would generate a **** load of likes. hahaha
ondeeair was spot on with his pre test info. He said that he heard the test would be a nightmare. Which was in contrast to what the consensus was at the time, including the info the schools received. I think he is a victim of the test, like we all are and is rambling a tad, but he's been correct plenty of times.
-- Edited by Devil Dog on Tuesday 19th of May 2015 05:36:23 AM
-- Edited by Devil Dog on Tuesday 19th of May 2015 05:45:27 AM
Ondeeair is one the craziest most bat sht insane guys on this forum. For every one thing he's been right on, there are ten things he's been dead wrong on.
The days of the list drastically ballooning due to protests are over. In the past the schools were responsible for the majority of successful protest, therefore even though there will be throwouts/doubles it will not be as significant as the forecast. If you look back at recent tests this is evident.
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The days of the list drastically ballooning due to protests are over. In the past the schools were responsible for the majority of successful protest, therefore even though there will be throwouts/doubles it will not be as significant as the forecast
In the words of "DRPapi1983" agreed 100% ..LoL..
Which is why I found it hard to believe that people are reporting 6-9throwouts/doubles. The instructors who taught these classes are great at what they do. They knew that patrol guide from front to back. They are what I would consider "professional protestors". That protest session knocked me off my chair the same way that exam did, however, I gave that exam my all as I did the protest.
The fact that instructors were not allowed to take the exam nor were they allowed attend the protest, leads me to counter any comment referencing 6-9 throwouts/ doubles should be expected from our exam.
-- Edited by DOS_EQUIS on Wednesday 20th of May 2015 02:26:10 AM
The days of the list drastically ballooning due to protests are over. In the past the schools were responsible for the majority of successful protest, therefore even though there will be throwouts/doubles it will not be as significant as the forecast
In the words of "DRPapi1983" agreed 100% ..LoL..
Which is why I found it hard to believe that Ondeeair was reporting 10throwouts/doubles. Mike Yano and other instructors are great at what they do. They knew that patrol guide from front to back. They are what I would consider "professional protestors". That protest session knocked me off my chair the same way that exam did, however, I gave that exam my all as I did the protest.
Earlier today Ondeeair posted: there will be 6-9 throwouts/ doubles. Ondeeair suggested for us to check our facts. And that we were all wrong.
6-9 throwouts/ doubles might have been the case IF our instructors were allowed to attend our protest. The fact that instructors were not allowed to take the exam nor were they allowed attend the protest, leads me to counter Ondeerair's comment referencing 6-9 throwouts/ doubles should be expected from our exam.
I didn't make my remarks to discredit anyone. We have too much at stake to sit down and make note of all the errors, double answer, etc.. As oppose to the schools who have nothing to lose by taking down the questions, breaking them down and banging out the protest. In simple terms they are not there trying to get on the list.
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Hearing 2014 Capt test had 0 throw outs, if that's any indication of schools' input or lack of there of
Interesting.. though something that should be taken into account is the amount of mos who took the 2014 captain's exam compared to the amount who took our LT's exam. with this being said I only hope more people attended our protest since many more took our exam.
-- Edited by DOS_EQUIS on Wednesday 20th of May 2015 03:41:57 AM
The days of the list drastically ballooning due to protests are over. In the past the schools were responsible for the majority of successful protest, therefore even though there will be throwouts/doubles it will not be as significant as the forecast
In the words of "DRPapi1983" agreed 100% ..LoL..
Which is why I found it hard to believe that people are reporting 6-9throwouts/doubles. The instructors who taught these classes are great at what they do. They knew that patrol guide from front to back. They are what I would consider "professional protestors". That protest session knocked me off my chair the same way that exam did, however, I gave that exam my all as I did the protest.
The fact that instructors were not allowed to take the exam nor were they allowed attend the protest, leads me to counter any comment referencing 6-9 throwouts/ doubles should be expected from our exam.
-- Edited by DOS_EQUIS on Wednesday 20th of May 2015 02:26:10 AM
