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i am above an 80...i was there fighting for ppl who did not pass. I protested some that i got wrong and one i got right but knew was a throwout...so stop saying no one goes who passed.

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once again, its our own fault. We provided them answers and most threw in their towel. Why would someone who score 80 protest for someone who scored 57? Why would someone who scored 57 waste his time and show up in bklyn?
this was dcas strategy and we fell for it

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 I'll be there tomorrow. But I agree with you. Still gotta take the fight to DCAS. Can't roll over now when we all made the same sacrifice. Well most of us anyway...

Once again, some people on this site amaze me. Nothing is on the level with this job but somehow the protest is? Get real! The same zealots who think the protest is so important are the same who censored any discussion about it. That idiotic campaign did more to undermine people's will to fight than anything else. We'll done! . Not that it matters. The only reason there were so many throwouts/doubles on the 2011 test and 2010 Captain's test (27 for that I believe) was there needed to be to make a viable list. The protest played a marginal role at best. Anyone who is blind to that is naive fool. So stop with the self riteous indignation and lecturing people. Whether one decides to protest or not is none of your damned business!

In all honesty it doesn't matter on the number of protests there are. If there are 1000 protests making the same invalid argument then what's the point? All you need is that one person who makes a valid argument to change an answer. It's quality of quantity when it comes to this.

-- Edited by RookieScum4Life on Wednesday 13th of May 2015 07:50:17 PM

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Devil Dog wrote:

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sgt2be wrote:

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i am above an 80...i was there fighting for ppl who did not pass. I protested some that i got wrong and one i got right but knew was a throwout...so stop saying no one goes who passed.

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 thank you for fighting. I'm at a 69.

-- Edited by Devil Dog on Wednesday 13th of May 2015 07:42:49 PM

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 My friend is at a 69. I got you Devil Dog. PM what questions you got wrong and what answer your picked.

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 thx bro.  done

Nikkydenimblue wrote:

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Yes, but if everyone thinks the same and relies and someone else.... U have to take it upon urself. someone's execution of an argument for a protest might be flawed. You might know what ur talking about but on paper it might not come across that way. Everyone fight. Everyone protest.

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 Amen. I'm doing the same. I have a solid plan of attack for tomorrow. It would be very gratifying for me to see the questions I protest either thrown out, or made double/triple answer and see guys that I know studied their balls off get those extra points they need. People can say what they want but I know the only way to get things done and to do it yourself. If everyone had that mentality that "the protest isn't worth it" or "someone will protest the same question(s) as me so why do it" then nothing would be protested at all. Thank you Nikky and Sgt2be for having a passing score and still putting up a fight.

Gotta love the don't generalize about me but then generalize others mentality of certain people on this forum.

Nikkydenimblue wrote:

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Yes, but if everyone thinks the same and relies and someone else.... U have to take it upon urself. someone's execution of an argument for a protest might be flawed. You might know what ur talking about but on paper it might not come across that way. Everyone fight. Everyone protest.

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 Agree. Please go PROTEST!!!!

skiguy37 wrote:

Anyone that doesn't go and give their best attempt at a protest is foolish. That is my opinion and I am sticking to it.

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 I agree. I also think we should have waited until after the protest sessions to release any answer keys. Prematurely releasing the key equals low turn out at the protest sessions. 

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www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/downloads/pdf/noes/201303539000.pdf
Link to 2013 sgt noe

www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/downloads/pdf/noes/201505535000.pdf

This is our NOE


I also printed out a copy of the wording below provided to us by SLATE. This came in handy and pretty much wrote it word for word

I respectfully request that the Question #_ that deal with Operations Order #_ should be nullified as this subject was not listed in the official NOTICE OF EXAMINATION(NOE Included & Highlighted) and I did not have the requisite notice to study the necessary material and properly prepare. As a result, I was unfairly prejudiced and, with this test being given once only 4 years, these questions have the potential to derail my career and negatively impact my life. My research shows that on a 2013 Sergeant Exam, Operations Orders were a separate topic listed in the NOTICE OF EXAMINATION(NOE Included & Highlighted), which means that the DCAS is well aware that it is not a subsection, but a separate category of police procedures. The questions selected should come from materials previously designated as the ones that will be tested. Any extremists questions may as well be on the subjects unrelated to police work. The notice was misleading and unfair, and deprived me of the ability to study the correct subject matter.

Last thing, you will write out this passage and attach both our NOE and 2013 Sgt NOE to every question protested with 'Test' section highlighted.

Thank you Dos Equis

I went today and protested 8. The other guys there were churning out protests. Keep in mind there is still the mail-in period, which is when I'm protesting ops orders. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

I protested 5 questions... Gotta be in it to win it.

I was informed today by one of the personnel at the Brooklyn DCAS site that anyone who has not attended may attend on the last day of the protest. It is not something they publicize simply becasue its on a first come first serve basis which means that some people may be turned away if there is not enough room. Judging by the turnout today that shouldnt be a problem for whoever wants to go tomorrow who has not yet attended. Just some FYI for those who were not able to make it on their scheduled protest date.

-- Edited by NYC Devil Dog on Wednesday 13th of May 2015 09:41:35 PM

we talked in manhattan today....we came up with ideas and together.

look at question 7....it was in basket...myself and mny others got it wrong. I didnt bother to protest bc there WAS NO WAY i was looking through all those in basket pages again. But someone mentioned that all the choices were wrong as per pg?? 106 is throwout based on interim order. Ummm 10 alot of ppl got it wrong. I think its worth protesting on a technicallity of not mentioning any proper ID being presented...54 is worth looking into. Just a poorly written question. I have some more but id have to mention the section they come from and i cant due to the make up test.

I heard the same thing about #7 and I will give it a go. I also got #10 wrong but I'm not sure if I can argue with that one. I will look at #54, especially since numerous people are protesting it. I actually got #106 correct but from what I hear, that will definitely be a throw-out.

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states must be properly id'd....never mentioned anything about the guy being id'd. Go to 209 for a list of proper id and if not properly id'd then must arrest. I know its a technicallity, but you know what, THEY CHANGED LITERALLY ONE WORD TO GET ANSWERS AS WRONG. You want to pull that crap, then every question should have ALL necessary info in it.

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 what question number are you talking about?

10

I mentioned this in another thread but I specifically remember there was a question that was missing words in the question because when I was reading it I said to myself these guys have 6 months to write a test and they can't even proof read it. It made it difficult to understand what they were asking. It was more towards the end of the test. I don't go until tomorrow so I'm not sure what number it was or if it was a research question but if it's not a research question people should protest for obvious reasons. Anyone know the question I'm talking about?

Someone mentioned it wasn't a research question

If that question wasnt research and its not a throw out then last one out please shut the lights. Its like it was written in a different language, put thru some online free translator and spit onto our test.

Ditto

thanks agains schedule b. I will be in bklyn. I will be churning em out too!

FranknBeans wrote:

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There's two locations today. Who has Lafayette street in Manhattan today?

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 I'll be in Manhattan today.

Im taking lirr to atlantic terminal