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TransitSucks · Senior Member

RE: LT VACANCIES

Walter H White · Member

Why do you say that?

Booking Fool · Senior Member

It's not slowing down unless you consider two months of no promotions as slowing down. That 0-64 could be -40, 24 in a day. That many people on terminal is a good sign. Either way by year end they'll be 100-120 more promotions.

Gomery2898 · Veteran Member

Any updates on the numbers?

technocrat1 · Guru

No change

technocrat1 · Guru

-1 and 64

SimpleQuestion · Member

FYI, keep in mind with the safe city safe street hires coming into retirement mode every six months over the next 2 years, this list might expire faster than what most are thinking. Keep in mind, February another 1500 will be set to retire.

To all on this list be patient, it'll happen.

big guy · Senior Member

Seems like this large # on terminal have been on terminal forever! When are they due to come off?!!

technocrat1 · Guru

July had 2 and August has 21 coming off terminal. Thats what makes me think we should be having a decent size class in August.

big guy · Senior Member

Right okay cool..and then the other 40 or so will be coming off in sept/october i guess... its just that for so long ive been hearing how these massive waves of retirements are coming and im still waiting to see when this is going to happen

smartcookie · Senior Member

Keep in mind also, that the 'massive wave of retirements' encompasses the August 1993 class of 2,500 people- most of whom are not Lt. So, though there may be many retirements across the board, only Lts and Capts retiring will affect our promotions.

Booking Fool · Senior Member

August 29th is the retirement date for that '93 class. Out of the 2500 you have to count everyone LT and up. If 10 Inspectors retire, it trickles down. Even if 10% are Lts thats 250. I'm willing to bet LT and above is at least 800 out of that 2500.

nycop80 · Guru

800 seems a bit high

smartcookie · Senior Member

You're right Booking Fool, all ranks Lt and above would affect us. Your estimation of 800 Lts and above leaving from that class is quite a lofty one though. I hope you have a crystal ball and it is dead on. biggrin

Booking Fool · Senior Member

I wish I had that crystal ball. I just figure over a 20 year career 35-40% have to hit sgt. Say 25% go higher , that's about 600. So maybe a little less than 800

even if its half that and only half of them retire, you're still looking at 150 to retire. Either way this list will just about done before 2014 ends.

Edubz · Senior Member

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but 80% of Lt. and above stay past 20 years. And that will increase every year now that you have to commit a felony to lose your pension.

Booking Fool · Senior Member

Look your 80% as well as my percentages are just speculation. Although I agree the higher the rank the longer you stay, based solely on the numbers there will definitely be a September class if not an August class. There are too many eligible for retirement. Not to sound like a complete d**k, but all I really care about is them getting to my number (50 names) as quickly as possible. Based on the numbers I'm sure they'll be two more classes before years end. Probably 3.

Horseman · Veteran Member

-11 and 57 biggrin

Abeyance · Senior Member

The promotions will remain steady, just have to stay steadfast! Most of the guys on patrol will probably leave when able to!

Killbox1alpha · Member

There will be no promotions this month. I was told that there will be a large group in September.

Atlanta · Member

Lts getting promoted possible the Same date as when the sgts are getting promoted???. That date has not been announced yet.....

-- Edited by Atlanta on Friday 2nd of August 2013 05:31:13 PM

-- Edited by Atlanta on Monday 5th of August 2013 08:05:04 PM

Twenty N Out · Veteran Member

When in September?

Atlanta · Member

A sgt bmoc class is going in this monday which means they won't get promoted for about 4-5 weeks depending on whenever the PC is free. Based on the vacancy numbers they'll most likely promote Lts the same time as the sgts. So yes, expect promotions the beginning of September.....

Gamblor · Senior Member

If sergeants are going in on Monday, then promotions would be on August 30th for them. Now just wait and see if we get to join them.

Booking Fool · Senior Member

The above is why it is so annoying when people who know nothing start throwing out BS. Do not post your bulls*it and declare it as fact.

Walter H White · Member

BRAT- Any LT. updates for Aug/Sept?

Killbox1alpha · Member

I was told that they are planning on promoting a "large" group September. What a large group means I haven't been told. My guy said about 40 maybe more.

technocrat1 · Guru

Is it in the beginning of September or the end?

Jooky · Senior Member

Not sure about the timing, but we are currently at -11 and have 15 more going out on either 8/30 or 8/31 and 13 more retiring on 09/01/2013. Which would bring us to 39 not including any new retirements between now and then. Also, we don't know if/ how many Lt's are making Captain. Didn't answer your question, but hope that helps.

smartcookie · Senior Member

Jooky wrote:
Not sure about the timing, but we are currently at -11 and have 15 more going out on either 8/30 or 8/31 and 13 more retiring on 09/01/2013. Which would bring us to 39 not including any new retirements between now and then. Also, we don't know if/ how many Lt's are making Captain. Didn't answer your question, but hope that helps.

A friend of mine is waiting to get promoted to Capt and he was told in Sept. Once he starts his 2 weeks training prior to promotion, then we will have a good idea of when Capts will get promoted next month.

technocrat1 · Guru

Understood. Thanks. Its still a bit early I suppose to get solid info. I figure in about 2 weeks we should know if its going to be August or September.

Jooky · Senior Member

-11 and 58.

twntynout · Senior Member

Still not seeing this mass exodus people were talking about, really hope its still true...

big guy · Senior Member

twntynout wrote:
Still not seeing this mass exodus people were talking about, really hope its still true...

Exactly,me either...this list seems it will be no different than any of the past averaging about 200 a year just about---these guys arent leaving after all no jobs out there i guess....

smartcookie · Senior Member

big guy wrote:
twntynout wrote:
Still not seeing this mass exodus people were talking about, really hope its still true...
Exactly,me either...this list seems it will be no different than any of the past averaging about 200 a year just about---these guys arent leaving after all no jobs out there i guess....

The mass exodus class hits 20 on 8/29/13. We'll see if the large numbers of retirements are there after that date.

Booking Fool · Senior Member

58 on terminal is big if you ask me. And it went from 0-60 in like two days. Not to mention most waive their terminal. As the cookie said their retirement date is August 29th. See what the numbers are then.

Gomery2898 · Veteran Member

Jooky wrote:
Not sure about the timing, but we are currently at -11 and have 15 more going out on either 8/30 or 8/31 and 13 more retiring on 09/01/2013. Which would bring us to 39 not including any new retirements between now and then. Also, we don't know if/ how many Lt's are making Captain. Didn't answer your question, but hope that helps.

Since these numbers were originally put up, there has been at least another 10 more added(As per Finest messages). There will be at least 50 vacancies in the Lt rank come September 1st NOT including Captain's promotion. I'm expecting a class of 50+ at the end of the month.

LeatherNeck · Veteran Member

From your lips to the pc's ear........ Here is to hoping the pc goes on a promotion binge before leaving office!!!!!

technocrat1 · Guru

Gomery, so you're saying at the end of August for the promotions?

Gomery2898 · Veteran Member

technocrat1 wrote:
Gomery, so you're saying at the end of August for the promotions?

I'm saying the numbers are there and I can't see them waiting another month with that many vacancies.

technocrat1 · Guru

I agree.

Killbox1alpha · Member

31 Lt's getting promoted at the end of the month along with 12 Capt's.

twntynout · Senior Member

Slow n steady but hey ill take it. 4 months left for the year after this, any chance of 2 more classes? 100 more Lt's?

Jooky · Senior Member

Assuming no changes, by August 31, we will be at -26 and with the 12 Captain promotions, it will be -38. In addition, there are another 13 going out on September 1. Assuming only 31 get promoted at the end of the month, by September 1 we will already be at -20. Assuming my math is correct (I got most of those wrong so probably not), another big September class?

Jooky · Senior Member

Another 6 retiring after the 1st of the month. Making a total of 19 going out in September.

technocrat1 · Guru

Heard it was 35 lieuts going in.

Refund · Member

Anyone know the numbers of terminal/retired?

technocrat1 · Guru

-11 and 60

Gomery2898 · Veteran Member

technocrat1 wrote:
-11 and 60

Looks like we will be having back to back promotions!

twntynout · Senior Member

that would be great....