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Great point.

A good chance the entire list goes through. Just as good a chance the list gets cut off.

If you do the math it's going to be close.

Do you really want to be caught out without preparing for the June 2013 test?

Traditionally, Lt's exam list go the distance. Sgt's exams generally do not. Not making that up, check out the 2003 and 2006 Lt exams. The 2003 Lt exam DCAS set the "passing" score at 81 and everyone got made. For the 2006 Lt exam the 70 mandate was thrown in so everyone with over a 70 made the list, but as we all know, not everyone got made simply bc the list expired after 4 full years. The current Lt exam list has 661 and was established about 5-6 months ago, so we will see, but 661 is not unreasonable in a 4 year span.

As for Sgt's exams, we have not had a large list in a very long time, but the last 2 times I can recall where over 1000+ people passed, the Sgt's exams were in fact cut well early of the 4 year expiration. If Spartan85's Capt friend in OMAP is real, you are really giving him up on a message board. How many Captains work in OMAP? Its sort of like saying the XO of the 77 Pct told me the list will not be cut. You are not only spreading possibly a false sense of security, but you are publicly outing a high ranking MOS on a message board and could get him in trouble if he is giving out real info to you.

BTW, I don't know the XO of the 77, just giving a specific title and command as an example. As for Spartan85, you were making things up when you wrote on page 5 of this thread I was stirring the shyt years ago and you researched it. If that is true and you wasted your time, please provide the link where I did any of the false things you claimed. Also the list hitting 500 names is nice and all but they did skip over 100 people already, so they still have well over 1200+ people waiting to get promoted.

-- Edited by PatrolGuideismyBible on Wednesday 12th of December 2012 06:36:27 AM

HOW COME THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE WHERE IVE HEARD THIS CUT THE LIST CRAP.THE SGT AT EMD SAYS THEY PLAN ON PROMOTING STRAIGHT THROUGH.OMAP HAS NO IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL EVEN PASS THE NEXT TEST SO THEY LAUGH WHEN YOU ASK THEM ABOUT A LIST GETTING CUT.

I'm sure there are quite a few captains at OMAP. Strikes me as one of those top heavy units. Plus even if there is only one he has plausible deniability.

-- Edited by Cfgl1888 on Wednesday 12th of December 2012 09:17:15 AM

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And let's not forget Brat who actually works at 1pp whose opinion is the whole list gets made.

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She doesn't work at 1PP.

Nobody in 1PP knows what's going on with this test. It's not like there's a bulletin board on the 14th floor with answers to all of the mysterious questions of life.

I never post rumors on this site... I have been reliable with my info thus far. I'm not trying to rub it anyone's face but for those who have not read my previous posts.

I fought the budget cut rumors... I was right
I fought the test getting thrown out rumors.. I was right
I fought the list being 2500 names rumor....I was right.. I guessed 1400 names I was a bit off.
I said the list would reach 500 names this year...I was right

Now I'm telling you that the list won't get cut. For once ill feed into the rumor mill and tell you all a true story. Guy I used to work with is a captain in Omap now. I ran into him and said "hey buddy..humor me for a second...you hear any rumors about the list getting cut?"
His response: " No...we need the personell and I have not heard anything about the list being cut from anyone. Expect a lot of promotions next year." I asked him if he thinks the PC would kill the bottom of the list because it was such an "easy test." He said "I doubt it. He let that ground ball lieutenants test run the full four years and allowed it to expire. I don't see why he would cut the list when he needs the personell."

He's not the PC but he agrees the list won't get cut.... My opinion is go ahead and study and take the test again if your not a SGT by June 8th...why you say??? Keep the stuff fresh in your mind for a lt test... Good luck

spartan85 wrote:

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I'm not saying I "know" what the future holds for all of us. I'm just saying that there are no talks of this list getting cut.
And I don't believe there will be.

PS patrolguidemybible posted on the 08 forum that the 08 list would get cut for the 09 exam and he was wrong.. I posted this in the start of my thread. The guy has been giving his opinion for the past 3 tests and has been wrong...common guys wake up already

ACTUALLY YOU ARE RIGHT IV'E BEEN READING PATROLGUIDEISMYBIB POST FROM 2009 THROUGH 2012 AND EVERYTHING HE HAS WRITTEN IS NEGATIVE.PATROLGUIDE WHATS YOUR PROBLEM ARE YOU UPSET BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THAT HAPPEN IN PAST EXAMS.I MEAN C'MON MY FRIEND YOU HAVENT SAID ONE THING POSITIVE SINCE 2008. 

I'm not questioning your knowledge of past exams... I don't even mind you posting your "opinion." My problem is those who have repeatedly made false accusations and misrepresenting them as fact... You have been posting for multiple exams now and you constantly have had negative predictions that never came true....

As of now there is NO reason to believe the list is getting cut... There have been no such talks about it by anyone. There have just been rumors. If there were any talks about it and they were true I would side with the possibility that the list would get cut and post the information...the only person who would know if the list is getting cut is police commisioner Kelly... Who might not even be the PC after the next election. So lets wait and see...

I posted a list of threads that were made false when I opened this thread. Look it up and read them. As far as everything else. I feel that the announcement of a 2013 exam shows that this list will go very fast... And further strengthens the argument that the whole list gets made and the likelihood of the list depleting will be mid 2014. This looks like a repeat of the 08 09 exam...not the other way around.

Spartan's information is spotty at best. I would not put much stock in this guy. So far the 1300 list cut is holding to be true. Just heard from another poster that his source is saying the same thing.

My 2 cents:

The general consensus here in BMOc is that the list shall indeed be cut. When i say this I am speaking about the instructors. Too many agree that the launching of the new Sgt exam does not bode well for the current list of sgts.

Anyone that keeps saying that no way this list is going to be cut believes that Micheal Jackson was not a pedophile. My advice to anyone who scored above an 1100 is to take the next exam just to be on teh safe side. At least if you do make it into a BMOc then you will be refreshed for the next Lt. exam.

Better to be safe than sorry so do yourself a favor and stop listening to the liberals of the department.

PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:

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Spartan on page 5 of this thread is putting names of threads I commented on, but even if I was spreading good info or just posting info from the past, rumors others spread that proved to be false are somehow my fault? Like someone wrote 266 people passed the 2009 exam? Or small lists would get cut? I guess then whatever other nonsense is on any thread he expects me to own. But enough already, this thread isn't about me.

Everyone make their own decisions of whether or not to get up for the June 2013 exam. I have no stake or interest in any of the classes, I do not sell iPhone apps, work for looseleaf law, or any other way to profit on people studying for an exam. Just from one Sgt exam cutoff victim to potential new ones, nothing is set in stone. Passing isn't always good enough. The name of this thread is me responding of the possibility of a list cut, that possibility definitely exists and it is stubborn to not even acknowledge that possibility...

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YOU ARE A LIAR.YOUR THE ONE SELLING COP CARDS AND PATROL GUIDES STOP YOUR CRAP.

Who wants to know chief izzo/ former iab and other aliases "Real name"?... last month he made the mistake of mentioning that he scored an 84.xx after all the decimal points were added .....
- up to that date there were only 5 guys with an 84.xx that were next on the list....
-OUT OF THESE 5 GUYS ..... ONLY 1 entered BMOC.
So we dont need to be a genious .. Chief Izzo is the only one with an 84.xx on the 2012 DECEMBER BMOC.
... Now ladies and gentlemen.. it only takes a couple of minutes to do a process of elimination.

ENJOY !!!!!!!!!!

Today is my last day in BMOC before graduation and i will share this with you all. It is a high probability that this list will be cut. This is coming from the people at the academy. Take the information for what it is worth.
Good luck to all.

Busted.

Babylon you should really consider yourself a looser and a idiot.embarrassment

Anyone who answered this guy in agreement clearly is also a troll and should also get banned. Most likely the same poster.

Get him out of here....

Good job... Now are you starting to see that the majority of future predictions are bull****??? These guys like izzo and Babylon and all those other retards are telling us the list will be cut but they can't tell us squat about BMOC dates...

Guys can tell the future 2,3,4 years down the line but they can't get squat right regarding what could happen next week..they are always wrong about the next BMOC going in....

I don't know the future..but I do know that NOW...TODAY... No talks have been made about a list being cut...just like I knew budget cuts would not effect promotions....I don't know about the future but as of now the list is on track to being completed.

BTW shouldn't we all be dead today?? It's 12/21/12... So much for predicting the future.

I was at the academy yesterday and spoke to some of the instructors. There is no word on any list being cut right now.

People think just because a new exam is announced that , this is the end. FOr the 2007 Sgt exam, we took the exam in early February of 2007 and the list was not established to almost a year later, happened in Dec. Of 2007. My point, is that even if the next exam is in June or July, the list can easily not even be finalized till June of 2014. You are talking a year and half away. This should be plenty of time to exhaust the current list with the way it has been going. Do not listen to the rumors that the list is being cut short . It is way too early to even think this.

-- Edited by nycop80 on Monday 24th of December 2012 02:36:51 PM

I will agree no one holds a crystal ball. If u are that high on the list that is true you should sign up and prepare but nothing is definite. This is what happens when an easy exam is given. You don't want 1500+ on a list ever. I would say a 1000 or less is probably best for sgt list. I do hope all will get made and then u can hopefully be lucky and not wait too long for a Lt exam. Guys getting promoted now are hitting it right because there will probably be a Lt exam in 2014. Good luck.