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If I were among the 1200 I too would take the classes. Hell, you can use the knowledge towards the Lt's exam if need be. Either way, I too believe this list will be shafted so the best way to be prepared is to take the June 2013 exam and double your chances. Either way it is a win win for anyone on the 2011 list.
No tough guy here just mature and trying to help those who u idiots like to worry. No problem this is obviously a mickey mouse forum. Again good luck to all including u clowns.
no one can be certain that the list will be cut until it happens. However, I must say that I feel this test is being given to soon. Just something I heard and of course its not confirmed is that the PC isn't happy with the list being bottom heavy. As some one mentioned earlier in the forum supposedly the dept wants the "cream of the crop" higher scores rather then lower ones.... I am up in the air in regards to this but I am starting to feel that this list will indeed get cut. If you have list number 1200 and up or are in a situation where you cant get promoted for a while.. jammed up.. I would recommend taking this next test just in case.. Just my opinion
Everybody will be made from 2011. By June 2013, list should be at least 900. End of year by 1300. List should be exhausted by May 2014, thus starting new list. ...My predictions. Don't worry, everybody will be made, because if they cut the list, there will be a lawsuit holding up the new list. Everybody will be made, don't worry.
The Lt list was cut because it lasted 4 years, not because they wanted to cut it.
If you chose to study again and retake it, you have that right. Many people retake the exams and still get promoted off their original list.
Lists being established do not translate to lists being activated. Clearly no one remembers the 2009 list being held 14 months after being established for the 2008 list to finish. The only motivation the dept has to create a new list is to promote this full list. Not cut. So silly these forums topics. This dept has never cut since establishing a passing grade any list and they don't intend on starting with our list considering people on the LT and captains list have lower grades on average. Our list is 1/3 done and it's only 7 months old. What's that tell you? It's a 2 year list. They need a new list to promote from. 10,00 total eligible retirees with in 3 years plus 630+ Sergeants promoted to Lieutenant. The dept from what I see will probably just break even with sgts in rank by 2015.
-- Edited by Semp1 on Sunday 2nd of December 2012 04:54:01 PM
You people listen to these idiots.they also said that the test was being thrown out.they also said that we would never get to 500 on this list.they also said no throw outs.they also said no class for april may june july august september october.cmon man now your gonna take the next test and they will tell u the same wake up.
-- Edited by queensfinest on Sunday 2nd of December 2012 07:05:12 PM
Funny how when i said the list was going to be cut everybody jumped down my throat. Fast forward a few months later and now you guys are making threads about what # will the list be cut at. Funny how the tables have turned and ppl are starting to squirm!!!
After seeing a list of 1663 names and then seeing some of the names on the list it's apparent that the job gave an easy test. It's not because everyone studied hard or because there were a lot of people that took the exam. These guys are in for a rude awakening when they take the next LT test if the job doesnt decide to throw them another ground ball. Guys in my command studied 20 minutes a day at the TS and passed.
After seeing a list of 1663 names and then seeing some of the names on the list it's apparent that the job gave an easy test. It's not because everyone studied hard or because there were a lot of people that took the exam. These guys are in for a rude awakening when they take the next LT test if the job doesnt decide to throw them another ground ball. Guys in my command studied 20 minutes a day at the TS and passed.
I agree. I personally knew a cop who barely studied. Def didnt study enough to pass a legit Sgts test and she ended up scoring an 86. Even she was shocked. Lol
1. Da Job has already promoted up to 25% of this list in only 7 months. 2. Next year we have more retirements which means more promotions 3. The LT list is moving pretty fast and it's Just going to free up more empty SGt spots that will need to be filled within the next 2 years 4. Now with the new exam people don't remember that when the 2009 test came out, they just started to promote from the 2008 test. So basically the job had a 700+ list and still put out another test. I believe the 2009 people waited 2 years to see any movement. 5. By next year this list will be up close to 1000 putting it in the same situation when the 2009 list came out. 6. And finally the haters. Trolls are one thing but I see most of the hate are coming from already promoted SGTs which I have no idea why they would want to hate. Guys are probably the first ones to cry when your 28 is denied or when the job forces you to do a double/tour change because the SGT man power is very low. I see it happen all the time but yet you hating at the idea of more sgts getting promoted. More sgts = more spots to fill so you can relax n have a day off or a easy day at work and not overwhelmed. I would embrace the idea of more sgts getting promoted from this list next year. But I guess all haters know how to do is hater. And that I really don't know what to tell those types of people. But I guess we all know them and we are going to continue to deal with them n all u can do is move on.
We eat our own. Who needs enemies on the street, when its clear by some of these posts, we hate on each other.
But when one of us passes away, you throw on that black band like you give a crap, but you don't b/c in reality they are just a dumb idiot who never who of passes a real test, right?
Obviously people like Cry27 and Semp1 only see what they want to see. Why hold the 2009 Sgts exam as an example and not tel the entire truth about it. Yes the 2009 list was established and delayed for about a year but it was because of the lawsuits and not because the job was waiting for the latter exam to expire.
If you are going to use an event to bolster your argument then please by all means tell us the entire event and not bits and pieces. The 2011 exam has yet to manifest any lawsuits but that does not mean that they will not come later on as soon as the 2013 exam list is established. I am guessing that lawsuits no longer are being allowed to delay the promotional process which was evident in the last Lt's exam where upon the lawsuits were bulldozed and the list was terminated regardless.
Some of you keep selling pipe dreams. It is better to know the entire truth than to believe in a fool's errand. This exam has all the ear markings of an exam that will be cut short and if you can not understand or accept the possibility they you have no business becoming a future sgt. You are better off staying a 5 year cop on patrol.
It's such a joke that people feel the need to come here and say how "easy" our test was. Hate on haters... I passed this test and you know what they call me? Sergeant, just like they call you for passing your test. Honestly, some people need to get hobbies.
We eat our own. Who needs enemies on the street, when its clear by some of these posts, we hate on each other.
But when one of us passes away, you throw on that black band like you give a crap, but you don't b/c in reality they are just a dumb idiot who never who of passes a real test, right?
Disgraceful, karma.
Couldn't have said it better. It's disgusting. But nothing surprises me anymore in the Ray Kelly police dept.
There was never any law suits holding the 2008 or 2009 Sgt's exam up. The law suit from the 2006 LT exam did not affect the Sgts exam in any way what so ever. If you're going to troll do it right. The city does not cut short exam lists before the 4 year mark granted to lists since passing grades were implemented. Until you find me a test the city has then your argument holds no weight. Until then there's not one example you can use. To say "it will happen" is definitely crazier than saying it won't at this point.
-- Edited by Semp1 on Monday 3rd of December 2012 06:02:17 PM
-- Edited by Semp1 on Monday 3rd of December 2012 10:16:53 PM
What law suits held the 2009 list up? Nothing held it up, and if there was one it didn't affect the flow of either list. The 2008 list wasn't even 700 sgt's, and the 2009 list wasn't even 800 sgt's. Both list were fully intended to get promoted. Not one law suit prevented either list from getting cut. The last class of the 2008 list and first class of the 2009 list were combined to one BMOC affectively finishing the 08 list and starting the 09 list in Oct/Nov 2010.
-- Edited by Semp1 on Monday 3rd of December 2012 06:27:29 PM
Being part of a law suit does not mean it held a list up. Because it didn't. Read my above post. I didn't say there were none. I said if there was one it did not affect either list.
-- Edited by Semp1 on Monday 3rd of December 2012 06:39:11 PM
Semp, not to be rude, but do u even know what you are talking about half the time. You basically said there were no lawsuits holding the 2009 exam up and I tell you that i was part of one and you still stick to your guns and say that there were none. Wow!
LOL. I was just thinking the same thing about Semp1. All he does is come on here trying so hard to sound like he knows what he's talking about but all he's doing is spreading misinformation.
LOL. I was just thinking the same thing about Semp1. All he does is come on here trying so hard to sound like he knows what he's talking about but all he's doing is spreading misinformation.
Troll!
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