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oneadditional · Guru

1st BMOC

Xister · Member

What are these units looking for when they make their determination on who to draft?

technocrat1 · Guru

They're usually looking for prior experience as a detective or some investigative track and a clean CPI.

maverick · Veteran Member

technocrat1 wrote:
They're usually looking for prior experience as a detective or some investigative track and a clean CPI.

NOT TRUE ABOUT THE CPI PART TECH...I KNOW PLENTY OF GUYS THAT WENT TO IAB AND THEY DID NOT HAVE A CLEAN CPI. SOME EVEN HAD CHARGES PRIOR TO GOING TO IAB.

18and1 · Senior Member

Xister wrote:
What are these units looking for when they make their determination on who to draft?

A pulse

technocrat1 · Guru

Interesting thing about the CPI. Wouldn't have thought that.

Jobisdead · Veteran Member

Off the topic but can having an open Iab case pass you up for promotion.

oneadditional · Guru

Jobisdead wrote:
Off the topic but can having an open Iab case pass you up for promotion.

Yes

Jobisdead · Veteran Member

Is it an automatic or does it make a difference if you are a witness and not a subject

smartcookie · Senior Member

Jobisdead wrote:
Is it an automatic or does it make a difference if you are a witness and not a subject

It definitely makes a difference if you are a witness or a subject. Whomever is handling the case (IAB or Inspections Unit) gets a phone call and it is determined if you are cleared or not.

big guy · Senior Member

even if an anonymous off the wall allegation comes in it can still hold you up?? Or do they have some discretion? Cuz if thats the case i figure it would happen often, where someone that doesnt like someone thats about to get promoted, will just call something in to screw that person....

unborn · Guru

When your name comes up with an open case, a call is made to the unit handling the case. The captain there will generally make the call to hold you up for a bit or to let you get promoted.

Booking Fool · Senior Member

Unborn has touched me in inappropriate ways!!! The calls have been made!

unborn · Guru

I don't know dude, you're the one that likes to "cruise" on your free time.

Silverstein · Member

That IAB guy was just in the previous sgt bmoc lecturing us on iab. Made it a point to let us know he was going into this LT class. Inspections then IAB. I mean come on. That takes a special kind of person to go that career path. No excuses.

Nofurther · Veteran Member

Who cares IAB or Inspections, I know Sh*t load of good guys either went to IAB or currently in IAB/INSP, makes no difference, If u r a tool u always a tool no matter IAB or patrol, Over the years I have seen so many AHs on patrol already. At the end of the day, what matters the most is to go home at EOT and spent time with your family and most importantly PAY YOUR FU*KING BILLS!!!!!

waitingfornassau · Senior Member

Nofurther wrote:
Who cares IAB or Inspections, I know Sh*t load of good guys either went to IAB or currently in IAB/INSP, makes no difference, If u r a tool u always a tool no matter IAB or patrol, Over the years I have seen so many AHs on patrol already. At the end of the day, what matters the most is to go home at EOT and spent time with your family and most importantly PAY YOUR FU*KING BILLS!!!!!

I agree the only thing that matters is going home at the eot, but ur wrong with the IAB/Inspections comment. Plenty of good guys drafted into IAB yes, but to voluntarily spend your entire career in those units=toolbag. Obviously this is a sore spot for you so I assume that you fall into this category, but to each his own

Patrick Bateman 1 · Veteran Member

There is only one way to describe IAB led investigations. ....... Train wreck. I've personally seen it in nauseating depth from all angles. Disaster. Not a clue ow to run or manage an investigation. From the bottom to the top. This is why they rely so heavily on squad guys to do the actual investigation. Then they glom onto the results, and thank god that is the case for the person being investigated. I dont have the time, and this is not the correct platform, but believe me..Disasters. This crew couldn't discover water if they fell out of a boat.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

Nofurther wrote:
Who cares IAB or Inspections, I know Sh*t load of good guys either went to IAB or currently in IAB/INSP, makes no difference, If u r a tool u always a tool no matter IAB or patrol, Over the years I have seen so many AHs on patrol already. At the end of the day, what matters the most is to go home at EOT and spent time with your family and most importantly PAY YOUR FU*KING BILLS!!!!!

I agree, I've known a few good bosses that volunteered for IAB, went to some other place after and take care of their people now. An ******* will always be an ******* and a fair boss will usually stay that way, IA or not.

Silverstein · Member

You can tell who has had a cheese eating career by some of the posts here.

Nofurther · Veteran Member

waitingfornassau wrote:
Nofurther wrote:
Who cares IAB or Inspections, I know Sh*t load of good guys either went to IAB or currently in IAB/INSP, makes no difference, If u r a tool u always a tool no matter IAB or patrol, Over the years I have seen so many AHs on patrol already. At the end of the day, what matters the most is to go home at EOT and spent time with your family and most importantly PAY YOUR FU*KING BILLS!!!!!
I agree the only thing that matters is going home at the eot, but ur wrong with the IAB/Inspections comment. Plenty of good guys drafted into IAB yes, but to voluntarily spend your entire career in those units=toolbag. Obviously this is a sore spot for you so I assume that you fall into this category, but to each his own

Good guys get drafted to IAB and AHs volunteer to go to INSP., Or Vice Versa, makes no difference. I have been patrol boss for six years in a busy hsing command and I have dealt with a lot of IAB/INSP. people over the years. They do that for various reasons most of time other than hurting a cop like better commute/schedule/etc...... When you at the dead end of your career, sh*tty Bureau, AH CO., crazy schedule..... then if you were offered a steady 9x5 weekends off, short commute, great CO, and all u gotta do is to issue CDs to people who deserves it (that's when a good guy makes a big difference) and you wanna be home with your kids and family for those precious time. I think a lot of us would give it a second thought, wouldn't we??? Stop being a hypocrite! I am not here to defend those AHs either they volunteered or drafted to IAB/INSP but just wanna make a valid point: one should be defined by his/hers characters and not where he/she works nor how he/she got there, stop being ignorance and prejudice, YOU my friend, r our worst enemy.

haz39 · Veteran Member

well said

waitingfornassau · Senior Member

Agreed well said...now go sign off on your cd because you got busy and forgot to put that 85 in your book...hack

sgtmcvengeance · Veteran Member

I know that IAB is filled with drafts. Good, honest men that I know have been sent there without even getting boarded. Has anyone ever heard of someone getting drafted to QAD or an "Investigations" unit? I haven't. And, uh, Inspections? I don't think that unit has been around for 10 years.

Nofurther · Veteran Member

waitingfornassau wrote:
Agreed well said...now go sign off on your cd because you got busy and forgot to put that 85 in your book...hack

Had that happened to me couple of times actually by the infamous then Capt BlockHead for not putting 63 time in the book before commencing meal and he looked at me like I had just committed a triple homicide, what a douche! LOL

Newbie

I don't know why any one would volunteer to go into IAB. I am lucky, I went before the board and didn't get pulled in to IAB, got my detail. Lucky my CPI has a few blemishes. Stop making excuses for people looking to get over. I have sympathy for people drafted. Thats one thing. But to volunteer? That bureau if in the business of issing CDs. And you want to sympathise with mos who want to be a part of that? What happened to being a cop? Doing police work? Having some personal pride?

sixmonthwonder · Guru

Nofurther wrote:
waitingfornassau wrote:
Agreed well said...now go sign off on your cd because you got busy and forgot to put that 85 in your book...hack
Had that happened to me couple of times actually by the infamous then Capt BlockHead for not putting 63 time in the book before commencing meal and he looked at me like I had just committed a triple homicide, what a douche! LOL

Salerno? Haha.

wiletwo · Veteran Member

Patrick Bateman 1 wrote:
There is only one way to describe IAB led investigations. ....... Train wreck. I've personally seen it in nauseating depth from all angles. Disaster. Not a clue ow to run or manage an investigation. From the bottom to the top. This is why they rely so heavily on squad guys to do the actual investigation. Then they glom onto the results, and thank god that is the case for the person being investigated. I dont have the time, and this is not the correct platform, but believe me..Disasters. This crew couldn't discover water if they fell out of a boat.

Did you ever think that their is a reason the investigations are disasters? Do you really think that the guys and gals in IAB really want to discover nonsense.

Patrick Bateman 1 · Veteran Member

wiletwo wrote:
Patrick Bateman 1 wrote:
There is only one way to describe IAB led investigations. ....... Train wreck. I've personally seen it in nauseating depth from all angles. Disaster. Not a clue ow to run or manage an investigation. From the bottom to the top. This is why they rely so heavily on squad guys to do the actual investigation. Then they glom onto the results, and thank god that is the case for the person being investigated. I dont have the time, and this is not the correct platform, but believe me..Disasters. This crew couldn't discover water if they fell out of a boat.
Did you ever think that their is a reason the investigations are disasters? Do you really think that the guys and gals in IAB really want to discover nonsense.

Please. If I didn't know better that would be a perfectly good retort. You're presuming a level of savyness from IAB that just doesn't exist. Nice try though. The mistakes, miscues, and fumbles by them are staggering and embarrassing. Spoken like a true tormented,drafted IAB guy though. I'm sorry for you. I'm sure you mean well, but you just haven't been trained properly.

-- Edited by Patrick Bateman 1 on Monday 9th of July 2012 12:32:30 AM

wiletwo · Veteran Member

Oh Patrick, don't feel bad for me. I did very well and have an out. I do realize that you are in IAB, and that you are the one guy trying to conduct a thorough investigation. Good for you patty. Keep fighting the good fight. Attaboy.

Patrick Bateman 1 · Veteran Member

Excellent comment Wile. I took a huge uncalled for swipe at you and you handled it with grace. Your response could've been much more aggressive but it wasn't. My hat is off to you. I'm not in IAB, they won't go near me. Peace and good luck to you. See you in BMOC. By the way, I like to disect girls, did you know I'm utterly insane?

NYPD231 · Senior Member

Patrick Bateman 1 wrote:
By the way, I like to disect girls, did you know I'm utterly insane?

Feed me a cat.