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Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

OK SO WHICH QUESTIONS?

NextLtTest · Senior Member

What about #52? I have it down as Tattoo/Hair clip. Almost certainly a double answer. Unfortunately I got it completely wrong because I eliminated both double answers figuring they canceled each other out.

-- Edited by NextLtTest on Saturday 5th of May 2012 07:52:37 PM

nycop80 · Guru

i am trying to remember which question was the explosive dye pack at the bank, i assure you that will most likely be a double answer. Both bomb squad and crime scene are supposed to be notified. not one or the other.

-- Edited by nycop80 on Saturday 5th of May 2012 07:57:27 PM

habidasheryauto4 · Member

it was question 39.PS still hate you.

-- Edited by nycop80 on Saturday 5th of May 2012 08:06:27 PM

ImDrained · Senior Member

#4 was the ECB question in which the calendar had the double 8's, I know you can still get the correct answer however the question was based on the calendar and the calendar was incorrect therefore the question should be tossed....that calendar did not reflect a US calendar...its a long shot but I had to try...

-- Edited by ImDrained on Saturday 5th of May 2012 08:46:02 PM

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

tensixone wrote:
#7 was a summons question. which one was prepared improperly
#18 poss double...strip search of a prisoner
#21 poss double....meds question about umos preparing the med treat form
#26 aided question
#47 par qual veh ques

Question 18 (strip search) I got wrong but when I went to the protest, I realized they beat me. I'll keep it up top anyway so we can keep track of it but it's not a double answer.

21 also was also tricky but DCAS worded it correctly (got that wrong also). No double answer for that either.

-- Edited by Jimmy McNulty IV on Saturday 5th of May 2012 08:47:18 PM

Bumpy · Veteran Member

-- Edited by Bumpy on Saturday 5th of May 2012 09:52:01 PM

NYG37 · Senior Member

45 is definitely a/b. I've protested it, it definitely deals with who makes notification to irt

-- Edited by NYG37 on Saturday 5th of May 2012 11:00:26 PM

HB · Senior Member

It was either question 1 or 2. To send a cop to a detail with a rmp equipped with an mdt. There were 2 rmps available with mdts. One was broken and the other mdt wasnt. In the in basket packet the memo said to use an rmp equipped with an mdt. It didnt say working mdt. Thats like the p.g. saying be equipped with a WORKING watch. They left that word out which makes it a double answer technically...

-- Edited by HB on Sunday 6th of May 2012 12:05:36 AM

wereinbacklog · Guru

One of the Po williamson answer choices either 10 or 13 maybe both.

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

wereinbacklog wrote:
One of the Po williamson answer choices either 10 or 13 maybe both.

I want to keep the list accurate, so try and only post if your sure.

NYPD231 · Senior Member

wereinbacklog wrote:
One of the Po williamson answer choices either 10 or 13 maybe both.

I think you gave him off in question 10, which worked out fine, and then he was supposed to be the answer in question 13, which I would guess make it a throw out.

habidasheryauto4 · Member

question 10 was authorizing williamson for Eday, Dcas right answer. Then in 13, DCAS right answer was to send him to hospitalized prisoner.

question 40. was accident on bridge with 2 qualifing vehicles, but none of the answer choices were valid. I think its a throwout

nycop80 · Guru

question 47 was us as the LT giving a cd to a cop for rmp accident. and sending him to retraining, where in the patrol guide it clearly states this is a duty of the CO.

nycop80 · Guru

question 77 was LT again authorizing himself to do admin OT . I believe in this question it said there were an increase in rmp accidents. You needed to get a report ready for the XO. There answer was you stay and get the job done so the XO will be ready for the meeting.

wereinbacklog · Guru

NextLtTest wrote:
What about #52? I have it down as Tattoo/Hair clip.

thats a double answer not a throwout

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

wereinbacklog wrote:
NextLtTest wrote:
What about #52? I have it down as Tattoo/Hair clip.
thats a double answer not a throwout

That's fine I'm trying to get a feel for all 19. Double answers and throw outs.

nycop80 · Guru

interesting avatar, geez.

LateRiser · Senior Member

Q89 more likely a dbl answer not a throw out. Q93 dbl answer that's the Q with 2 cops being late one is a worker another one a hairbag

habidasheryauto4 · Member

can anyone advise what question 7 was?

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

LateRiser wrote:
Q89 more likely a dbl answer not a throw out. Q93 dbl answer that's the Q with 2 cops being late one is a worker another one a hairbag

What was question 93?

NextLtTest · Senior Member

Do not know #7, but hearing it might be a throw out.

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

nycop80 wrote:
i am trying to remember which question was the explosive dye pack at the bank, i assure you that will most likely be a double answer. Both bomb squad and crime scene are supposed to be notified. not one or the other.

-- Edited by nycop80 on Saturday 5th of May 2012 07:57:27 PM

It's been a while, but I think the cop notifies P/S, Bomb Squad, & ESU. Don't remember CSU being a mandatory notification, I could be wrong....

tensixone · Senior Member

#7 was a summons question. which one was prepared improperly
#18 poss double...strip search of a prisoner
#21 poss double....meds question about umos preparing the med treat form
#26 aided question
#47 par qual veh ques

tensixone · Senior Member

ques 93 was the 2 mos late for roll call

habidasheryauto4 · Member

40 was the par qualifying vehicles. 47 im pretty sure is the dept veh accident.

NYPD231 · Senior Member

NextLtTest wrote:
Do not know #7, but hearing it might be a throw out.

I heard the same. I didn't post anything, because I had no idea what question it was and hadn't heard anyone speaking about it. Throw outs I heard were 7, 23, 40, 63, with 89 and 100 as doubles. That was as of two weeks ago when the review panel was supposedly still in session and I haven't heard about any others since then. At that point I was told they were arguing 12 more questions.

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The guy that told me isn't someone I can just pick up the phone and call, so I don't know if I can get more info; I just run in to him at 1PP occasionally.

NYPD231 · Senior Member

Not sure if 10 would be thrown out. At that point in the in-basket, there was nothing wrong with giving him the day. If the in-basket is a "living thing," where one answer sequentially effects the next, 13 would be thrown out since it had no correct answer, and 10 would be correct.

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

NYPD231 wrote:
NextLtTest wrote:
Do not know #7, but hearing it might be a throw out.
I heard the same. I didn't post anything, because I had no idea what question it was and hadn't heard anyone speaking about it. Throw outs I heard were 7, 23, 40, 63, with 89 and 100 as doubles. That was as of two weeks ago when the review panel was supposedly still in session and I haven't heard about any others since then. At that point I was told they were arguing 12 more questions.
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The guy that told me isn't someone I can just pick up the phone and call, so I don't know if I can get more info; I just run in to him at 1PP occasionally.

Any idea what the double answers were for 89 & 100? As in which letters...

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

NYPD231 wrote:
Not sure if 10 would be thrown out. At that point in the in-basket, there was nothing wrong with giving him the day. If the in-basket is a "living thing," where one answer sequentially effects the next, 13 would be thrown out since it had no correct answer, and 10 would be correct.

I agree, I think 13 would be the one thrown out.

NYPD231 · Senior Member

Jimmy McNulty IV wrote:
NYPD231 wrote:
NextLtTest wrote:
Do not know #7, but hearing it might be a throw out.
I heard the same. I didn't post anything, because I had no idea what question it was and hadn't heard anyone speaking about it. Throw outs I heard were 7, 23, 40, 63, with 89 and 100 as doubles. That was as of two weeks ago when the review panel was supposedly still in session and I haven't heard about any others since then. At that point I was told they were arguing 12 more questions.
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The guy that told me isn't someone I can just pick up the phone and call, so I don't know if I can get more info; I just run in to him at 1PP occasionally.
Any idea what the double answers were for 89 & 100? As in which letters...

89- B & C

100- whatever the DCAS answer was and C

Mes018 · Senior Member

Here are a few possibles. I know some were already covered above. I don't have any sources and I'm not stating that these are going to be throw outs or double answers. Just a few of the questions I protested.

Q3: One and six to send to detail. Double answer B/D? (Choice D had all RDO MOS at full duty status with 2 PO's van qualified.)

Q4: Mobilization point. Double answer C/D? (Choice C was public parking lot.)

Q6: Which voucher was correctly prepared. All were bad. Should be thrown out. A/B/C/D

Q15: Sergeant to pick for conditions spot. Double answer A/C? (Choice A - Sgt. Ahmad, experience in conditions and packet did not state when he is retiring.)

Q20: Complaints involving cellphones Should be thrown out. A/B/C/D (Question referred to Patrol Guide Procedure 207-52.PG only goes up to 207-33. They meant io #52)

Q22: Search on Tracks. Double answer B/D? Question was looking for false statement. (B & D were both false)

Q23: Temporary removal of firearms. Double answer B/C? (Lt excluded from being considered Ranking Officer for the purpose of this procedure.)

Q40: Vehicle accident on bridge. No correct answer. Should be thrown out. A/B/C/D

Q46: Confrontation situation. Double answer A/B? (Test writers changed pg wording from "whether on or off duty" to "when off duty". That does not make it an incorrect statement.)

Q47: Dept Vehicle accident. Duties of the X.O. Should be thrown out. A/B/C/D (Only possible correct answer is D - Don't find driver at fault and no further action needed.)

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

Mes018 wrote:
Here are a few possibles. I know some were already covered above. I don't have any sources and I'm not stating that these are going to be throw outs or double answers. Just a few of the questions I protested.

Q3: One and six to send to detail. Double answer B/D? (Choice D had all RDO MOS at full duty status with 2 PO's van qualified.)

Q4: Mobilization point. Double answer C/D? (Choice C was public parking lot.)

Q6: Which voucher was correctly prepared. All were bad. Should be thrown out. A/B/C/D

Q15: Sergeant to pick for conditions spot. Double answer A/C? (Choice A - Sgt. Ahmad, experience in conditions and packet did not state when he is retiring.)

Q20: Complaints involving cellphones Should be thrown out. A/B/C/D (Question referred to Patrol Guide Procedure 207-52.PG only goes up to 207-33. They meant io #52)

Q22: Search on Tracks. Double answer B/D? Question was looking for false statement. (B & D were both false)

Q23: Temporary removal of firearms. Double answer B/C? (Lt excluded from being considered Ranking Officer for the purpose of this procedure.)

Q40: Vehicle accident on bridge. No correct answer. Should be thrown out. A/B/C/D

Q46: Confrontation situation. Double answer A/B? (Test writers changed pg wording from "whether on or off duty" to "when off duty". That does not make it an incorrect statement.)

Q47: Dept Vehicle accident. Duties of the X.O. Should be thrown out. A/B/C/D (Only possible correct answer is D - Don't find driver at fault and no further action needed.)

Good stuff dude thanks.

tensixone · Senior Member

NYPD231 wrote:
NextLtTest wrote: I heard the same. I didn't post anything, because I had no idea what question it was and hadn't heard anyone speaking about it. Throw outs I heard were 7, 23, 40, 63, with 89 and 100 as doubles. That was as of two weeks ago when the review panel was supposedly still in session and I haven't heard about any others since then. At that point I was told they were arguing 12 more questions.
#13 should b an absolute throwout

nycop80 · Guru

63 will not be a double. it will be a throw out.

tensixone · Senior Member

Jimmy McNulty IV wrote:
tensixone Question 18 (strip search) I got wrong but when I went to the protest, I realized they beat me. I'll keep it up top anyway so we can keep track of it but it's not a double answer.
21 also was also tricky but DCAS worded it correctly (got that wrong also). No double answer for that either.

-- Edited by Jimmy McNulty IV on Saturday 5th of May 2012 08:47:18 PM

question 21 was worded correctly, however they asked u what was the umos responsibility. it didnt ask u what step should b done 1st. therefore it should b a double answer. 2 steps were correct. should b a double

Mes018 · Senior Member

No problem McNulty. Here are a few more.

Q52: Cop in proper uniform. Double answer A/B? (A was tattoo, B was hair clip)

Q77: Prepare for traffic-stat while X.O. on vacation. Double answer C/D? (Giving out OT for admin work is no good)

Q87: Standard proper English (LOL). Double Answer C/D? (The answer key is D - "Since we have two Police Officers assigned to the post, it is their responsibility to monitor the condition." Police Officers should not be capitalized because they are common nouns in this sentence.)

Q89: E-Day for MOS with sick kid. Double answer B/C? (See step 2 of Patrol Guide procedure 203-03 COMPLIANCE WITH ORDERS)

Q90: Dealing with Sergeant who was passed over for a position. Double answer B/C or throw out? (Question based on personal opinion and managerial style)

Q100: Project for Mayor's Office. Double answer A/C? (Another question that deals with giving out OT for Admin work)

I have some specifics on questions 3, 4, 6, 15, 18, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 27, 28, 29, 31, 34, 37, 38, 39, 40, 45, 46, 47, 52, 56, 57, 60, 61, 64, 67, 69, 77, 83, 87, 89, 90, 93, 97, & 100 if anyone is looking for info.

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

tensixone wrote:
Jimmy McNulty IV wrote:
tensixone Question 18 (strip search) I got wrong but when I went to the protest, I realized they beat me. I'll keep it up top anyway so we can keep track of it but it's not a double answer.
21 also was also tricky but DCAS worded it correctly (got that wrong also). No double answer for that either.

-- Edited by Jimmy McNulty IV on Saturday 5th of May 2012 08:47:18 PM
question 21 was worded correctly, however they asked u what was the umos responsibility. it didnt ask u what step should b done 1st. therefore it should b a double answer. 2 steps were correct. should b a double

It was so long ago I can't really remember, maybe your right. I just remember reading at the protest and being pissed that a missed a tiny aspect of the question.

NYG37 · Senior Member

45 should be a double answer.

tensixone · Senior Member

was that the MAN child ques?

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

NYG37 wrote:
45 should be a double answer.

What was it and what would the answers be?

nycop80 · Guru

thanks jimmy for this post, very awesome idea.

NYG37 · Senior Member

Question had to deal with notification to acs. Dcas answer said its a cop who notifies, its a double answer because there's a step for d.o to do it as well. A/b should be as acceptable answers.

Mes018 · Senior Member

Question 45 was 10 year old with welts from mom's girl friend. You are a Lieutenant. Least correct action:

A) Tell cop to call IRT. (This case would be detective's job, not cop)

C) Tell cop to refer 61 to SVU.

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

Mes018 wrote:
Question 45 was 10 year old with welts from mom's girl friend. You are a Lieutenant. Least correct action:

A) Tell cop to call IRT. (This case would be detective's job, not cop)

C) Tell cop to refer 61 to SVU.

So it should be a double answer with A/C both being correct?

GLG20 · Senior Member

nycop80 wrote:
thanks jimmy for this post, very awesome idea.

No. Really not.

WANNABELT_ · Veteran Member

Thanks guys. I have a buddy that is coming off an a navy reserve deployment in July and now he won't even have to bother studying.

Mes018 · Senior Member

Jimmy McNulty IV wrote:
Mes018 wrote:
Question 45 was 10 year old with welts from mom's girl friend. You are a Lieutenant. Least correct action:

A) Tell cop to call IRT. (This case would be detective's job, not cop)

C) Tell cop to refer 61 to SVU.

So it should be a double answer with A/C both being correct?

If it is a double answer, it's not going to be A/C. NYG37 might be able to give you more info about choice B, but I can say with certainty that C is wrong.

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

WANNABELT_ wrote:
Thanks guys. I have a buddy that is coming off an a navy reserve deployment in July and now he won't even have to bother studying.

All the testing is done. Even if it wasn't these questions have been discussed a million times before on this site.

NYG37 · Senior Member

@mes 18, what was the choice c? As I remember choice a was a cop makes notification, choice b was d.o. both are correct. I don't remember anything about svu in that question. there was a separate question who makes notification to what unit when a kid was a victim of the crime and the answer was Brooklyn child squad.