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arimaas · Veteran Member

DOES THAT MEAN OUT LT LIST WILL BE OUT IN 2 WEEKS

natou · Senior Member

THE OCTOBER 2011 SGT LIST CAME OUT TODAY, ONE CAN ASSUME THAT THE LT LIST WILL BE OUT IN 2 WEEKS.....

NextLtTest · Senior Member

LOL, Logically.......but with lawsuits. Never.

tensixone · Senior Member

two weeks is hopeful. we shall see. isn't the review panel still convening?

wereinbacklog · Guru

NextLtTest wrote:
LOL, Logically.......but with lawsuits. Never.

A lawsuit doesn't stop a list an injunction does and I'm not quite sure if that was obtained.

tensixone · Senior Member

it woulda been posted all over this site i am sure, if an injunction was obtained

NextLtTest · Senior Member

I am guessing the lawsuit is seeking an injunction.

wereinbacklog · Guru

NextLtTest wrote:
I am guessing the lawsuit is seeking an injunction.

Most likely, I wonder when they're due in court.

arimaas · Veteran Member

wereinbacklog wrote:
NextLtTest wrote:
I am guessing the lawsuit is seeking an injunction.
Most likely, I wonder when they're due in court.

As of 1500 hours today (04/04/12), Corporation Counsel was not served and nothing was filed in New York County Supreme court.

wereinbacklog · Guru

arimaas wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
NextLtTest wrote:
I am guessing the lawsuit is seeking an injunction.
Most likely, I wonder when they're due in court.

As of 1500 hours today (04/04/12), Corporation Counsel was not served and nothing was filed in New York County Supreme court.

Good info, I believe someone initially stated their court date was March 29th but never heard anything since. Nevertheless I hope this thing comes out soon.

wereinbacklog · Guru

This "thing" referring to the list.

arimaas · Veteran Member

wereinbacklog wrote:
arimaas wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
NextLtTest wrote:
I am guessing the lawsuit is seeking an injunction.
Most likely, I wonder when they're due in court.

As of 1500 hours today (04/04/12), Corporation Counsel was not served and nothing was filed in New York County Supreme court.
Good info, I believe someone initially stated their court date was March 29th but never heard anything since. Nevertheless I hope this thing comes out soon.

However, just because they weren't served yet, doesn't mean it won't happen......

wereinbacklog · Guru

arimaas wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
arimaas wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
NextLtTest wrote:
I am guessing the lawsuit is seeking an injunction.
Most likely, I wonder when they're due in court.

As of 1500 hours today (04/04/12), Corporation Counsel was not served and nothing was filed in New York County Supreme court.
Good info, I believe someone initially stated their court date was March 29th but never heard anything since. Nevertheless I hope this thing comes out soon.
However, just because they weren't served yet, doesn't mean it won't happen......

I believe the lawsuit will definitely happen or already has but the most important/interesting question is whether a judge will grant an injunction.

Shnaggles1 · Veteran Member

As of tuesday a group of sgts from 2006 list was trying to recruit people to raise the money needed so may not even happen. They have a petition and needed more people for it to happen. But you never know hanging on to what ever they can

wereinbacklog · Guru

Shnaggles1 wrote:
As of tuesday a group of sgts from 2006 list was trying to recruit people to raise the money needed so may not even happen. They have a petition and needed more people for it to happen. But you never know hanging on to what ever they can

I believe someone posted that the statue of limitation for any 2006 LT lawsuit expired but don't really know if this in fact is true. Honestly, I'm not really that concern with things outside my control. Just wished I new my list number and final score already lol.

Shnaggles1 · Veteran Member

I hear you, but I have waited this long a few more weeks or months makes no diffrence to me. I just feel bad for the people waiting to see if they pick up a point or 2 to pass that is nerve racking

innocent1 · Senior Member

thats me...... : (

nycop80 · Guru

many of us in same boat innocent1

wereinbacklog · Guru

Even with 22 throwouts/double answers our list will probably be in the 700/800 range.

-- Edited by wereinbacklog on Thursday 5th of April 2012 04:56:31 PM

NYPD231 · Senior Member

22? That could mean someone with a 50 gets promoted. That would be amazing.

I agree the test was a complete disaster, but that seems ridiculous. If that's true, then I guess they are legitimately throwing out the unfair quesitons, not just tailoring the list to how many they want. Good for the guys that actually studied and didn't do well.

-- Edited by NYPD231 on Thursday 5th of April 2012 04:57:15 PM

Stanza · Senior Member

Unfortunately I'm looking to pick up 4 points.

HB · Senior Member

Stanza wrote:
Unfortunately I'm looking to pick up 4 points.

You have a good chance of getting it. I think if u have a 63 u still have a good chance of getting a 70%.

Phantom3628 · Veteran Member

What if you got a 61%. Any chance of passing?

Stanza · Senior Member

Thanx HB I hope so.

wereinbacklog · Guru

Phantom3628 wrote:
What if you got a 61%. Any chance of passing?

I didn't want to say anything because it's just a rumor but a certain chief stated everyone in the 60's will be on the list. Another person told me (with a source at emd) that there will be 18 throwouts/double answers. Just relating what I was told.

Lostinspace · Veteran Member

It's true. Anyone in 65 up is going to make it.

NYPD231 · Senior Member

wereinbacklog wrote:
I didn't want to say anything because it's just a rumor but a certain chief stated everyone in the 60's will be on the list. Another person told me (with a source at emd) that there will be 18 throwouts/double answers. Just relating what I was told.

18?!?! That's insane. I'm not doubting your source, I'm just amazed that they would do that. That will put people in the mid 50's on the list.

Joker · Veteran Member

Brat,

Can you shed some light on this topic?

When will the LT list be released?

wereinbacklog · Guru

NYPD231 wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
I didn't want to say anything because it's just a rumor but a certain chief stated everyone in the 60's will be on the list. Another person told me (with a source at emd) that there will be 18 throwouts/double answers. Just relating what I was told.

18?!?! That's insane. I'm not doubting your source, I'm just amazed that they would do that. That will put people in the mid 50's on the list.

It was hard for me to believe as well but not that farfetch considering the 2010 Captain exam had 8 throwouts and 7 double answers for a total of 15.

tensixone · Senior Member

Considering how poorly written the test was, 18 is not farfetched. I went to the protest session and didn't have a chance to review everything but did find about 10 pg questions that were protestable. That's not including judgement questions.

Sgt4life · Veteran Member

i heard 22, between the double answers and throw outs...

wereinbacklog · Guru

Sgt4life wrote:
i heard 22, between the double answers and throw outs...

I'll take that.

tensixone · Senior Member

Well if that # is true I anticipate a score in the mid to upper 80's. Sounds good to me

Sgt4life · Veteran Member

i think they will throw out enough questions to get a list that they want, so they dont have to give an other test for 3 years. i think 22 would give them close to 1000 names.

wereinbacklog · Guru

Doesn't matter if the list is 1000 considering the last person on the 2006 list promoted was # 755. If it gets that high most likely everyone will not be promoted.

smartcookie · Senior Member

Joker wrote:
Brat,
Can you shed some light on this topic?
When will the LT list be released?

Brat is busy studying for the Capt's exam. She posted the other day that she will check her private messages if you want to reach out to her, otherwise she won't be checking the forum. smile

what happened · Member

You know what really grinds my gears?

Waiting for the list. It is time's worst enemy. It makes the clock handle feel like every second is a minute long therefore extending minutes into hours and hours into days. It went from tick, tick, tick. To tick..................(pause)..........................tick...........................(pause)...............tick...........................(pause). You get the picture.

DCAS is behind this phenomenon making us wait. Crafty fellows they are.

If I could only get my remote control to work, I could fast forward in time to when they release the list.

And that, is what really grinds my gears.

wereinbacklog · Guru

what happened wrote:
You know what really grinds my gears?
Waiting for the list. It is time's worst enemy. It makes the clock handle feel like every second is a minute long therefore extending minutes into hours and hours into days. It went from tick, tick, tick. To tick..................(pause)..........................tick...........................(pause)...............tick...........................(pause). You get the picture.
DCAS is behind this phenomenon making us wait. Crafty fellows they are.
If I could only get my remote control to work, I could fast forward in time to when they release the list.
And that, is what really grinds my gears.

I hear you, the wait definitely sucks especially when we lack "people in the know" with concrete info.

ImDrained · Senior Member

-- Edited by ImDrained on Friday 6th of April 2012 03:31:59 AM

PatrolGuideismyBible · Guru

What can we do other than wait? No matter what happens with this list, the Lt's that wrote this exam should get charges and specs for stealing time in writing that abomination of a test. They didn't understand the patrol guide in many questions, the contradicted the patrol guide in some judgement questions, and apparently didn't proofread the test with errors on the exam.

I will be on the list, but if there really are an extreme amount of throwouts, I might not hold any advantage and could be in the middle or the bottom of a large list if you are just going to curve such a poorly written test. Why did any of us bother studying this stuff to get screwed like this?

nycop80 · Guru

Well, most of the stuff studied was not even on the exam. I wonder how many throwouts they will actually have.

wereinbacklog · Guru

nycop80 wrote:
Well, most of the stuff studied was not even on the exam. I wonder how many throwouts they will actually have.

Yes it will be very interesting what the department decides to do with this test. However, the general consensus is that they recognize that they screwed up with this one.

GLG20 · Senior Member

nycop80 wrote:
Well, most of the stuff studied was not even on the exam.

This is true of every exam ever.

nycop80 · Guru

Yes, but more so for the recent LT exam. No interim orders, no questions on line of duty, no questions on department property. Ridiculous.

razor1 · Veteran Member

No continuous events, no CIMS Lol, you know how ready I was for CIMS expecting at least 4questions. doh We can go on and on about this and the ridiculous off white print on the In-basket but at this point, It is what it is.

razor1 · Veteran Member

On a good note I finally get my top pay $$$ May 28th. biggrin

nycop80 · Guru

very true razor, few more months for me to reach top pay as well.

unborn · Guru

I don not want to wait too much longer for this list to come out.

Team J · Senior Member

Just thought I'd share some info... This is not confirmed... But I heard that the 06 list is done... They are looking to release list within the next two weeks and the number of throw outs and/or double answer is 8... Like i said not confirmed but its coming from omap.. Just sharing what I heard .. maybe others have heard similar..

wereinbacklog · Guru

Team J wrote:
Just thought I'd share some info... This is not confirmed... But I heard that the 06 list is done... They are looking to release list within the next two weeks and the number of throw outs and/or double answer is 8... Like i said not confirmed but its coming from omap.. Just sharing what I heard .. maybe others have heard similar..

I did hear 8 throwouts without mention of double answers but if thats the overall number thats pretty low in my opinion.