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I read that whole thing. I still don't see what makes an answer that goes against the patrol guide "more correct" than an answer that still gets the job done while following the patrol guide.

Based on the above when does the patrol guide address the below?

Concern For Others: Acting in a manner sensitive to others needs and feelings while being understanding and
helpful on the job; showing consideration.

Teamwork: Developing mutual trust and cooperation while working together toward the accomplishment of
a common goal or outcome.

We studied the PG based on the notion the questions were based on "Black and white" procedures of the Patrol Guide.

Haven't you seen this before... Someone messed up, they'll say "You didn't follow the patrol guide"  but if you quote the patrol guide, they'll say "It's only a guide."

You mean to tell me you protested all the questions on your psychological entry exam based on there was no point of reference?

"The test may also include questions which require the use of any of the following abilities:"

It's right there!!!!!!

I want to make it known, I'm not trying to bust anyone's chops or here to be a troll and annoy anyone. Like the majority, I probably failed, in fact I'm certain I failed. I'm I upset with the exam? Not entirely because with the department I'm always expecting some type of trickery.

Now back to the "judgement" question. First the question didn't refer to "As per P.G 2xx-xx." Second, I never worked in payroll but I'll assume there's a huge list of OT codes which apply to different scenarios which are already pre-approved by the PC. If a certain scenarios arises the corresponding code will apply to the situation. I believe the PG procedure just points out not anyone can arbitrarily give out OT based on anything expect for certain individuals.

That's my point about this question and all judgement questions. There are times we can't always refer to the patrol guide. Because in the past the exam has put us in robot mode, our blinders are on and that's all we are focusing on. P.G. this, P.G that...

If anyone is that stubborn to realize that, then this test just put a spotlight on your rational. I just believe DCAS is going in a new direction with all LT and Captains exams and they're just testing you on a different level.

Best of luck to everyone with all of their protest questions!!

Stay safe and sane.

NYPD74 wrote:

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Below is taken right of out of the application.

The test may also include questions which require the use of any of the following abilities:

Analytical Thinking: Analyzing information and using logic to address specific work-related issues and
problems; involves the identification of problems, not implementation of solutions.

Judgment & Decision-Making: Reviewing information to develop and evaluate the relative costs and benefits
of potential solutions to problems and choosing the most appropriate one; implementing a course of action
determined by thinking analytically. While similar to Planning & Organizing, Judgment and Decision-Making
are typically applied over a shorter time frame.

Planning & Organizing: Establishing a method of execution to accomplish a specific goal over an extended
period of time; determining appropriate assignments and allocation of resources.

Management of Personnel Resources: Motivating, developing and directing people as they work, identifying
the best people for the job; managing employees needed to accomplish tasks.

Time Management: Managing ones time and the time of others in order to promote effective use of work
hours.

Stress Tolerance: Accepting criticism and dealing calmly and effectively with high stress situations.
Written Comprehension: Understanding the information and ideas presented in written sentences and
paragraphs in work-related documents.

Written Expression: Appropriately communicating information and ideas in written words and sentences so
intended audience will understand.

Persuading & Influencing Others: Causing others to change or modify their opinions, views or behaviors
using a variety of strategies.

Conflict Resolution: Negotiating with others to resolve grievances or conflicts and handle complaints by
developing a constructive solution.

Concern For Others: Acting in a manner sensitive to others needs and feelings while being understanding and
helpful on the job; showing consideration.

Teamwork: Developing mutual trust and cooperation while working together toward the accomplishment of
a common goal or outcome.

Integrity: Acting in an honest and ethical manner.
Dependability: Fulfilling obligations and acting in a reliable, responsible and dependable manner.

Initiative & Independence: Displaying a willingness to take on additional responsibilities and challenges, while
developing ones ways of doing things and guiding oneself with little or no supervision.

Attention to Detail: Being careful about detail and thorough in completing work tasks.

Self Control: Maintaining composure, keeping emotions in check, controlling anger and avoiding aggressive
behavior, even in very difficult situations.

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Were we suppose to be studying to be Shaolin monks or police lieutenants?

Its not a lawful order because lieut's CANNOT authorize administrative overtime. Period. 

yea, a ground ball down the line for a double (answer).