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Honestly I would have to say looking and speaking with numerous people that took and passed this test. I feel an 80 (including long/medal) will be a solid score to know your getting promoted. In the 70-79 range I would not worry but I would be concerned!
Anyone else think the guy who made this post got an 81?
87.785 if you must know; got both mobilization questions wrong and 2nd grammar question wrong, so if any of those are overturned my score will improve even more
The City of New York Department of Citywide Administrative Services proposed answer key for PROMOTION TO SERGEANT (POLICE) Exam No. 1533 records choice "d" as a correct answer for question number 16.
Several crucial facts indicate that choice "a" is the most correct answer, and is as good as or better than the proposed key answer choice "d".
The question asks the reader to locate the appropriate mobilization point for an explosion that has occurred at a clinic where there is an orange smoke coming from the clinic. This orange smoke would indicate a hazardous material that is airborne and can be blown by the wind. Patrol Guide 212-37 (Hazardous Materials) states to establish frozen zones for 2-c. Explosion or fire: (1) Outdoors - at least 1000 feet in radius from explosive indicating that the mobilization point must be at least 1000 feet from the clinic. It further states to 18-b-(1) Choose area on high ground and/or upwind of hazardous material, if possible, to avoid contamination. Patrol Guide 213-02 (Emergency Incidents) then states that NOTE: Mobilization point should be of sufficient size to accommodate a Level 3 or 4 mobilization.
This leads the reader to look for 3 criteria in choosing a mobilization point: 1) that it is at least 1000 feet away from the clinic, 2) can accommodate a Level 3 or 4 mobilization and 3), if possible, be located upwind.
For the 1000 feet minimum distance, the information for the map stated the distance between any two blocks is 500 feet. There were no scales on the map. This is very ambiguous and begs the question; is the distance measured from the same point on the two blocks? Could just going from one corner across the street to the other corner be 500 feet? Since there was one full block between the clinic and the stadium parking lot, then based on the given statement crossing 2 streets that separates 3 blocks (clinic, stadium parking lot, and the block between them) would meet the minimum distance of 1000 feet.
For the ability of the mobilization point to be able to accommodate a Level 3 or 4 mobilization, several material in the in-basket indicated there was a sold-out concert at the stadium that was over capacity. What was not mentioned was the size/capacity of the parking lot nor was mentioned how much of the parking lot was used/not available when determining if it could be used for a mobilization point. This can lead one to believe that perhaps the parking lot could have been very large and still have ample space even with an over-capacity event. The information given was not specific enough about the space available in the stadium parking lot. Therefore, the stadium parking lot must be assumed to be able to accommodate a Level 3 or 4 mobilization.
Finally, as for locating the mobilization point upwind, if possible, the introduction to the in-basket stated that winds were southern at 35 MPH. According to Webster Dictionary, both southern and southerly mean coming from the south <a southern breeze> meaning the wind blows from south to north. Since the stadium was south of the clinic and the wind is blowing north, then the stadium is upwind of the explosion and smoke.
In summation, choice "d", the park, may be over 1000 feet away and capable of accommodating a Level 3 or 4 mobilization, but it is downwind of an airborne hazardous material and IT WAS POSSIBLE to mobilize at the stadium parking lot. Choice "a" on the other hand, is a correct statement due to the fact that it meets all the criteria for a mobilization point: it is upwind, at least 1000 feet away, and is apparently able to accommodate a Level 3 or 4 mobilization.
Based upon the foregoing facts, choice "a" is noticeably the most correct answer, and as such, should be the key answer for question number 16. It is therefore respectfully requested that the Test Validation Board change the final key answer for question number 16 to read "a".
I think everyone will get made if the list is under 1500. Most people I know persononally all have a final score under 80. So based on about 20 people I know that passed, I would say if you have a gross score of at least an 80 you are 1 million percent safe. If you got a gross of 85 or higher you should be promoted by next Christmas assuming you got 5years. I think only about 400 people got that kind of score m(random guess based on old exams and other factors) and 50 won't have the time still to get made.
-- Edited by bigfoot45 on Monday 21st of November 2011 06:41:19 PM
The point Scammer makes which you are all missing is this: Every one of you who picked the park quickly assume that because there was a concert IN THE STADIUM that was also overflowing meant that the parking lot must have had no room for the mobilization.
Scammer is right when he says that the test writers never told us how big the parking lot was and how much of the space was used or available. Since they were never specific enough, you cannot just make assumptions based on the fact that a concert was going on.
For all we know, the parking lot could have been so big that half of it was empty.
He is right and all of you who don't understand that are tree-hugging libs.
The concert was sold out. Why would they have a parking lot 2x the size needed for a sold out event?
They wouldn't and there was a reason that little bit of info was included in the packet as I'm sure you already know. Yet the people who are still trying to rationalize picking the Stadium as the most correct answer just can't seem to grasp that concept.
Almost everyone that I know passed has a gross score under 81. If you got a gross score of 83 or better I think you will be promoted by my next Christmas if you go the time on.
Hope you're right bigfoot, I was hoping for the summer (89.8), I gotta' get outta' here.
I think everyone that passed will get made. Depending on how many people actually took the test there are probably bt 900 and 1500 that passed (guessing 1300). Lots of people retiring, the city has to replace them and replace the sergeants. If they drop below what we have now we'll be working with a pretty unsustainable situation.
If you got in the low 70s you're probably looking at around 3 years to get promoted, but the list goes for four years so you're safe and at least you'll get promoted eventually. Rest easy.
