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Dear Rising Star Students:
 
 
We waited to send this e-mail in an effort to let some of the dust settle and emotions cool down a bit. We, just like many of you, are up-in-arms over this lieutenant exam - not so much by the content, but rather the quantity of material that DCAS did not properly notify you on. We, too, sat for the exam and while we realize it was different from other exams, we were not at all surprised they did this - we saw it coming from the 2010 captain exam and the fact that DCAS recinded the original Notice of Examination (NOE) and issued a new one which indicated this "subjective" material. Based on those two facts, we had a suspicion this exam would include the judgment & leadership questions and we therefore covered it for you in our Week # 9 Lesson. However, we did not think it would take up 25% of the questions!
 
 
While Rising Star covered that "subjective stuff" in Week # 9's Lesson, we still wonder; how they (DCAS) can defend a protest on those questions. Unless they have a body of literature to point to for the correct answer, it is SUBJECTIVE. And if they do have something in writing to point to, they should have provided it within the NOE to properly prepare you. In their updated NOE, although DCAS informed you of the new material that may appear on your exam, they were negligent by not informing you of the reference for where that subject matter will come from. In other words, they tell you that Department directives and orders will be tested and will come from such references as the Department Patrol Guide Manual, Administrative Guide, Operations Orders, etc.  They therefore should have informed you as to where the reference for the leadership/judgement questions were derived so that you could prepare. By not doing so, they might as well have told you in the NOE that you may be tested on human anatomy, botanical chemistry, and NASA rocket launching procedures - without giving you the body of literature from where the questions are drawn, how can you possibly prepare?
 
 
We sat for the exam and we submitted our request to attend the protest - we will assist Rising Star students in protesting part of this exam. If you mail in a protest and would like us to review it first, email it to us. We hope to see some of you at the protest, and as always, if you have any questions feel free to email us at: info@risingstarpromotion.com  .  You should all collectively and passionately protest the FACT that DCAS' action were negligent, arbitrary and capricious by not informing you of the reference(s) for where the testable subject matter came from - especially in light of the fact that they have consitently provided the bodies of literature where the questions are drawn from on prior examinations!
 
Regarding the actual post-protest process, this is from DCAS website:
 
"After the protest period is over, a Test Validation Board (TVB) consisting of representatives of the employing agency(ies), bargaining unit (i.e., union) and DCAS, Bureau of Examinations is convened to review all protests. The TVB is empowered by Section 50-A of the New York State Civil Service Law, to change key answers, allow duplicate or multiple answers, or delete items from the test. After all protests are reviewed, the TVB prepares a report detailing its findings. After the eligible list has been established, all candidates who submitted protests will be called in to read the TVB Reports. The determinations made by the TVB are binding. Therefore, no further changes will be entertained."
 
Most importantly, hang in there, be patient, and lets see what the protests and list brings - hopefully it turns out that you all made it.
 
Thank you all again for trusting Rising Star Promotions with your study needs and GOOD LUCK!
Tony & Eddie

 



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"They therefore should have informed you as to where the reference for the leadership/judgement questions were derived so that you could prepare. By not doing so, they might as well have told you in the NOE that you may be tested on human anatomy, botanical chemistry, and NASA rocket launching procedures - without giving you the body of literature from where the questions are drawn, how can you possibly prepare?"

Could not of been said any better!


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Thanks for the back RisingStar

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Sgtfahlife


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Thank you RisingStar,....I feel much more confident that a substantial amount of questions will get thrown out and the list will be much bigger

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Thank you rising star !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It really feels great to know that the schools are on our side and actually agree that this exam was bushleague.

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Thank you, Rising Star. Hopefully, the other promotional schools will follow your lead and help their students with the Exam Appeal Process.

A message to all the Fast Track and Key instructors: if you are reading this forum, realize that now we really need your support and the extensive knowledge of the NYPD source material and procedures that you've demonstrated in your classes.



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s7g3t wrote:

Thank you, Rising Star. Hopefully, the other promotional schools will follow your lead and help their students with the Exam Appeal Process.

A message to all the Fast Track and Key instructors: if you are reading this forum, realize that now we really need your support and the extensive knowledge of the NYPD source material and procedures that you've demonstrated in your classes.




They are counting the cash, not reading this post. LOL.

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LOL

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Stand-up school! Thanks Rising Star!



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You get my business for the next exam!



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Guess a certain Cap't isn't gonna be teaching for that school

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