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Nypdblue · Veteran Member

RE: MASTER KEY

wereinbacklog · Guru

unborn wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
That's what I choice. What did you get for the family member that takes prescription medication for a perp. I narrowed it down to (c) Enter name/address/telephone number of relative or (d) enter address/telephone number and name of pharmacy on the medical treatment form.
It was asking least correct. The answer was put the name of the prescription in the command log. I gave away an easy one.

-- Edited by unborn on Wednesday 2nd of November 2011 12:40:08 AM

The patrol guide states to do both 210-04 "Prepare Medical Treatment of Prisoner form when a properly identified relative or member of the prisoner's household appears at any department facility where the pre-arraignment prisoner is located and........The uniformed member preparing the form will ensure that all pertinent information is entered in the appropriate captions and in the "remarks" section, including the name, address, and telephone number of the relative or household member, name of medication, nature of medical condition, and the name, address, and telephone numbers of the pharmacy and any physician noted on the label of any pharmacy container."

wereinbacklog · Guru

Nypdblue wrote:
What about the missing ?

Don't take missing from roommate.

NYPD231 · Senior Member

Has anyone else sent their answer keys to Jimmy McNulty or are we still going off of the 12 person answer key?

Mes018 · Senior Member

oneadditional wrote:
Crime scene with crime scene tape is the answer

No it's not. Crime scene with crime scene tape was not an option. The choice was establish police lines using crime scene tape. That is wrong, leaving correct choice being set up command post.

oneadditional · Guru

IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BANK ROBBERY CRIME SCENE UNIT WITH CRIME SCENE TAPE IS THE ANSWER

oneadditional · Guru

Wereinbacklog wasn't the perp in a precinct so therefor a command log entry should be made by both desk officers ? I'm just asking because I did see that in the patrol guide

wereinbacklog · Guru

oneadditional wrote:
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BANK ROBBERY CRIME SCENE UNIT WITH CRIME SCENE TAPE IS THE ANSWER

Yeap that's what I got. Does anyone remember the question about the lady complaining about a garbage condition?

oneadditional · Guru

You had to have HER call 311 immediately

wereinbacklog · Guru

oneadditional wrote:
Wereinbacklog wasn't the perp in a precinct so therefor a command log entry should be made by both desk officers ? I'm just asking because I did see that in the patrol guide

Yes is in the patrol guide but don't remember it being an answer choice.

wereinbacklog · Guru

oneadditional wrote:
You had to have HER call 311 immediately

For d life of me I can't remember d other answer choices.

oneadditional · Guru

The other choice was you call 311 for her, I can't remember the others

NYG37 · Senior Member

One that I recall was have them call sanitation direct.

s2h · Veteran Member

handle the job was another choice

OkeeDokee · Veteran Member

oneadditional wrote:
The other choice was you call 311 for her, I can't remember the others

And what a LEADERSHIP-based answer that was...

What a test. If that question was at the end of it, it had one answer and at the beginning, another.

-- Edited by OkeeDokee on Wednesday 2nd of November 2011 01:36:01 AM

oneadditional · Guru

Could the prisoner medication question be a throw out as well ?

Mes018 · Senior Member

oneadditional wrote:
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BANK ROBBERY CRIME SCENE UNIT WITH CRIME SCENE TAPE IS THE ANSWER

I apologize. Thought we were still talking about the homicide crime scene.

PatrolGuideismyBible · Guru

wereinbacklog wrote:
Nypdblue wrote:
What about the missing ?
Don't take missing from roommate.

Why not? Does it say a roommate cannot report someone missing?

wereinbacklog · Guru

oneadditional wrote:
Could the prisoner medication question be a throw out as well ?

Most likely a double answer but not a throw out.

Whatwasthat · Veteran Member

i see i am late to the party.........but i am getting conflicting info from guys at work and from here......do we have any confirmed answers on the identity theft question???????

PatrolGuideismyBible · Guru

Anyone remember the prisoner medication question? Were they looking for least correct or most correct? I remember one choice with medical treatment prisoner form having you put the name of the pharmacy in it. Another I think had both DO's making a CL entry? Was that the same question, I forgot, anyone remember that one well?

oneadditional · Guru

Just looked it up and you don't put the name of the pharmacy in the command log. What a cheap a** question. These type of questions just isn't right. I could see if they made one or 2 questions like this but the whole test was ignorant. I hope the lieutenants who wrote this are taking the captains exam and get the same treatment and let's see how they like it.

PatrolGuideismyBible · Guru

Did they tell you CL entry with pharmacy or put it in the medical treatment prisoner form which would make it correct? I dunno why I can't remember that one...

oneadditional · Guru

It was asking for the least correct

oneadditional · Guru

Yes we need to get to the bottom of this identity theft

HB · Senior Member

I remember 2 of the choices. One was put the meds and pharmacy in the medical treatment or put the pedigree of the person who brought the meds to the cmd in the medical treatment. I remember this cuz i was stumped on it for a few minutes.

-- Edited by HB on Wednesday 2nd of November 2011 01:59:25 AM

Whatwasthat · Veteran Member

how did the missing question read..........i dont remember

Whatwasthat · Veteran Member

it looks like it is between petit larceny and id theft but who knows

oneadditional · Guru

Knowing them its probably petit larceny because of some small exception written in italics on the back page of the guide

PatrolGuideismyBible · Guru

OkeeDokee wrote:
oneadditional wrote:
The other choice was you call 311 for her, I can't remember the others
And what a LEADERSHIP-based answer that was...

What a test. If that question was at the end of it, it had one answer and at the beginning, another.

-- Edited by OkeeDokee on Wednesday 2nd of November 2011 01:36:01 AM

Don't forget the female pregnant cop and the rules that only the district surgeon really has to know. Not really protestable since it was well written and to the point, but dayum, is this an exam for district surgeon or sick desk supervisor or Lieutenant of Police!!!

OkeeDokee · Veteran Member

oneadditional wrote:
Knowing them its probably petit larceny because of some small exception written in italics on the back page of the guide

Petit larceny. Without question.

sharpie973 · Veteran Member

PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
Nypdblue wrote:
What about the missing ?
Don't take missing from roommate.
Why not? Does it say a roommate cannot report someone missing?

"A complainant could be, in addition to a member of the family, a legal or temporary guardian, a representative of the Board of Education, or a hospital administrator."

"F.L.A.B."

F- Family

L- Legal Guardian

A- Adminstrator (medical, psych, nursing home, group home, etc.)

B- Board of Ed

(old P.T.S. keyword, I still remember it to this day)

Mind you what about an "intimate partner". The PG needs a serious update, huh?

-- Edited by sharpie973 on Wednesday 2nd of November 2011 02:40:26 AM

PatrolGuideismyBible · Guru

But is it limited to just those people? I dunno? Is a roommate a family type relationship or an intimate relationship where you do spend a considerable amount of time together. The book does need an update, that is def up for interpretation...

Twenty N Out · Veteran Member

The question regarding identity theft. This is from the crime reporting guide which resembles the question we had on the exam.

8. The complainant/victim resides within NYC (confines of the 32nd Pct), and her personal identification information was used to obtain a credit card for which she did not apply. The victim was informed that the credit card was sent to an address located in Connecticut and $485 worth of purchases were made over the Internet within NYC. The property was delivered to New Jersey.

Classification: This incident will be recorded as PETIT LARCENY not Criminal Impersonation. The unlawfully obtained credit card was NOT sent to NYC, and $485 dollars worth of merchandise was purchased within NYC by phone or internet.

Jurisdiction: The complaint will be recorded in the 32nd Pct, the complainants resident precinct.

Whatwasthat · Veteran Member

i did not take the missing report.......was that correct

oneadditional · Guru

Thanks for the breakdown. What about the graffiti question ? What was the answer ?

oneadditional · Guru

How did the missing question go ?

Whatwasthat · Veteran Member

anyone........anyone........missing fact pattern.....?????

nickie323 · Veteran Member

No missing report from the room
Mate.. He cant report

Whatwasthat · Veteran Member

cool.............got that point.......thanks

PatrolGuideismyBible · Guru

That was can be protested. It says in 207 "member of the family", but in doesn't define what that is exactly. In 208 a family is defined by the family court act and an "intimate relationship" is now a catch all and very open for interpretation. It states in the note following the family court act stuff about not necessarily a sexual/dating relationship, but could be a close relationship with a lot of interaction and shared expenses. Do roommates not share bills and constantly interact in a social context and even a family type context? A few years ago before they revised the Family Court Act, I would agree, don't take a missing in the book world for a roommate. But now? Take the missing.

Also you can argue this test was loaded with interpretation and judgement, in the real world you wouldn't take a missing from a roommate? I know I would. Definite protest. Even if you look up the word "intimate" in the dictionary, a roommate would fit depending on which number you look at to define it....

Nypdblue · Veteran Member

How about what the Lt does first sick perp in cells , missing child or get ready for comstat in 3 hours

Whatwasthat · Veteran Member

does anyone recall that rdo court question???? ground ball or was that a trick too?

outat20 · Senior Member

Whatwasthat wrote:
does anyone recall that rdo court question???? ground ball or was that a trick too?

at this point, those sadistic bastards could have done anything, but obv. answer was Ops Coord.

Whatwasthat · Veteran Member

thank god!!!

Whatwasthat · Veteran Member

domestic with umos throwing object at wife/ no injury........do does 49???? please say yes

-- Edited by Whatwasthat on Wednesday 2nd of November 2011 05:17:51 AM

nickie323 · Veteran Member

@ patrol guides my bible u will waste ur time and energy fighting the missing question they referred to the proper missing procedure in 207 ...ground ball

Whatwasthat · Veteran Member

fire question sec a at fire which is good a- p/van no pris (no good) b-61 (only if susp ???) c- activitly log entry d-red cross lady go to her home chose d anyone agree/disagree???

NinoBrown · Veteran Member

sharpie973 wrote:
PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
Nypdblue wrote:
What about the missing ?
Don't take missing from roommate.
Why not? Does it say a roommate cannot report someone missing?

"A complainant could be, in addition to a member of the family, a legal or temporary guardian, a representative of the Board of Education, or a hospital administrator."
"F.L.A.B."
F- Family
L- Legal Guardian
A- Adminstrator (medical, psych, nursing home, group home, etc.)
B- Board of Ed
(old P.T.S. keyword, I still remember it to this day)
Mind you what about an "intimate partner". The PG needs a serious update, huh?

-- Edited by sharpie973 on Wednesday 2nd of November 2011 02:40:26 AM

The roommate cant be a complainant, but he can damn well be a REPORTER!!!!!!! HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! WTF. Take the report.

wereinbacklog · Guru

PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
Nypdblue wrote:
What about the missing ?
Don't take missing from roommate.
Whty not? Does it say a roommate cannot report someone missing?

The patrol guide states missing can be reported by relatives/hospital or school administrator.