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Any which way you look at it......It's a bosses job!   I've been off patrol in a detail for 3 years now and yes you are treated a lot better than patrol, you still can't beat being a boss.

 

Brooklynbacon and Daisy07 hit the nail on the head!biggrin



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Phil Atio it all make sense now you have no patrol experience. No wonder your an immature little prick. Your the kind of guy who would put a senior guy on a doa and put a rookie in the sector. Your going to be a crappy Sgt, but I bet you can file the **** out of paperwork or write 20 summons a day. Someone with three years should not have a detail. Ok I'am done

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I was just told the numbers for the next promotion will be:

13 Captains
42 Lieutenants
65 Sergeants

Hopefully with that many Lieutenants there will be a large November class for Sergeants.

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Hopefully a large October Class.

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I wonder if they'll go into the 400's with this class?smile



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Hey guys, just wondering if anyone knows if theres an offical list with the names of PO's that will be going in the next class. Also when does the notification come down ? Is there anything that can prevent anyone of us from getting promoted, like the unknown ?

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Chronic sick, not enough credits, or modified.

As far as i know those are the only things that can stop you.

And notifications come down on the wednesday before bmoc, so its a five day heads up.

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when do you need to have your credits ready by???   what happens if your passed over for the credits...is it tooo late to put them in order???    or do you have till the list is over???    or are you sh!! out of luck??? will they tell you that your no good????

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when do you need to have your credits ready by???   what happens if your passed over for the credits...is it tooo late to put them in order???    or do you have till the list is over???    or are you sh!! out of luck??? will they tell you that your no good????




If youre passed over due to credits i believe you still have until the list expires/exhausted. I could be wrong...

The exam will be two years old in january. Plus you probably started studying a year before that. If you knew you needed the credits what the heck were you doing in the last three years? bleh

 



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do you really need patrol experience to be a good boss?  all of the bosses I had on patrol actually sucked.  it wasnt until i got into a detail that the quality of bosses actually went up.  they knew how to take care of their guys, and they knew, in return, you wouldnt do anything foolish to get them or yourself jammed up.

guys like rumor mill, who are stuck on patrol have hook envy.



-- Edited by Phil Atio on Sunday 23rd of August 2009 10:28:31 AM

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do you really need patrol experience to be a good boss?........the answer is....no .you need to be a normal person and remember to not break the rule mentioned in another forum...ill sum it up for you...dont be a fu%^&* buff and make collars for guys when no one is looking!!!
a good boss knows when to leave something open to the squad and go get coffee and when to take action....being on patrol for a while does help w this buffy syndrome..
thank you

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im probably going to be a bad boss, since rumor mill thinks the only good bosses are patrol-lifers.

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Phil Atio wrote:

 

do you really need patrol experience to be a good boss?  all of the bosses I had on patrol actually sucked.  it wasnt until i got into a detail that the quality of bosses actually went up.  they knew how to take care of their guys, and they knew, in return, you wouldnt do anything foolish to get them or yourself jammed up.

guys like rumor mill, who are stuck on patrol have hook envy.



-- Edited by Phil Atio on Sunday 23rd of August 2009 10:28:31 AM



Yes being a patrol cop is better then being a detail cop for experience. Does it supersede the most important item, common sense? No, but its very important.

A detail cop like a crime guy might know how to shake skels down for drug collar or how to toss a car for a gun but do they know how to handle a 5 car accident with multiple people going to the hospital? Or know how to send reliefs to a hospital post? Hospital? Is that the place those patrol cops go to sit on my skel walkthrough? Or know how to handle a stabbing or a robbery with rounds discharged by the perp? All they know how to do is canvass for the perp and if they dont find them go 98.

I have a five year wonder sgt from transit that had her first job of an rmp accident. She called a senior sgt and asked him if he can do it since shes never done a par before.

How can you be a sgt if you dont know how to handle a par or how to properly draw up a 61? Heck, some crime/summons guys dont even know that we changed to new dirs a few years ago...

Also, if youre a rookie sgt and you get called to the scene of a doa by a 6 month rookie cop, who has no clue, will you know what to do? Will the 10 summons a day sgt, whos trying to remember the procedure from the book and who is smelling his first doa, know what to do? Or will the patrol cop, whos handled 5 doas solo in his career have a better grasp of what to do?

-- Edited by brooklynbacon on Monday 24th of August 2009 06:15:36 AM

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youll probably be a bad boss cause your a prick and every post you make wreaks of douchebaggery and self admiration. Typical of a 3 year detail cop who thinks his **** dont stink and he's better than the 10 year guys on patrol.

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Can we stick to the most important topic ; can some one post a list of the people who are getting made. No one cares of what kind boss ones will make.

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WE R ON LIST NUMBER 304, SO IF THEY R PROMOTING 65 NEW SGTS , I GUESS THEY MIGHT GO UP TO ABOUT 375 OR 380.

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These bi-monthly bmocs are killing me. :(

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haters!

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Patrol and details two totally different things!  pushing paper don't count for the everyday stresses on patrol while you are in the bag!  Can I get a witness?

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whoop whoop

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My source tells me that 65 will go in at the end of the month and that they will reach list #390

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I don't know about you guys but I can't wait until Wednesday. It's like I'm waiting for a get out of jail free card. I know the grass is not always greener on the other side but it's got to be better than what I'm going through out here in Flatbush.

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Good luck Intouch, hope ya make it this week.

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brooklyn bacon,  thanx for answering my question....im not on this 08 list anyway, but just curious how this list might flow....i agree with you n the lack of experience on some sgts prior work experience...this job doesnt really make sense the way people can get promoted, while only knowing how to write double parkers, or flirt with the sgts enough to get easy tours , while being able to study enough , n then get to a command, n not knowing **** what to do....my opinion, this job should require more than a 70 and 5 yrs on to be a boss, of new yorks finest....


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RINGER I GUESS U CAN'T PASS THE EXAM. THIS TEXT IS NOT EASY BRO. UR A HATER IF UR NOT ON THE LIST , GET AWAY FROM THIS SITE.

-- Edited by natou on Tuesday 25th of August 2009 04:57:01 AM

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Thanks alot man, I hope we both make it in.

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Phil Atio Believe me, Iam not a hater. Ive been in a detail for years. And it seems to me you've been skating through this job because of your hook since you got on. You seem to be proud to ride someone elses wave. I know some people (hooks) myself and using them to get to a Pct i can understand but using them to get into a detail with 3 on is a mistake. You need to get out there and get hands on as a patrol cop to be a good Sgt. You seem to think a good boss is a guy who is cool and leaves you alone. I am not saying anyone wants a ball buster as a boss but being a Sgt by definition is someone with knowledge of not only the book but someone when they show up to a job they know how to handle it because they've been to hundreds just like it before. I gave up my detail and went back on patrol to do just that. Its not the uniform and the strips, its the knowledge and experience that makes you quaified.

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natauo, or  whatever your name is..... you must work in the p.a. or have a bad n pathetic sense of humor with that name....i have a sense of humor, so ill take you as being sarcastic..."IM NOT ON THE 08 LIST"...but that doesnt mean im not on "A" list, if anyone isnt on a list or at least on the border of any test , THEN YOUR RIGHT, they shouldnt be on here, but thats not my case.....

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anything come down today?

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They usually come down late afternoon

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Are you guys serious? C'mon
Hes a five year wonder and tells a 15 year vet to sit on a DOA instead of the rook waaaaaa
Hes transit and can't do a PAR waaaaaaaaaaa
Hes a detail cop waaaaaaaaaaa with only 3 years on
WHO CARES?
As long as you get promoted and treat your guys humanely and with respect it will be fine
If (s)hes got only 1 year on patrol and now hes a P S help each other out and the favor will be retured. We all wear same patches. Lets not make it us vs them. We got enough problems out there dealing with you know what...
If (s)hes smart enough to pass the test (s)he smart enough to learn and adopt to new suroundings - I hope :)


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Oh, so the finest message is supposed to come down today?

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Rumor Mill, FYI doing precinct conditions is not a detail.

I got off patrol and into a precinct-unit because of something I did while on patrol. I got to my first detail because of something I did while in that precinct-unit. I got to my second detail because of something I did while I was in that detail. I turned down a detail-sub-unit (detective track) because I didnt want to occupy a spot that someone who wanted it could take and get designated-detective 3rd, knowing I was going to be leaving for promo to Sgt.

Hook comment was tongue and cheek, although, I can guarantee if I wanted to go anywhere else, I could.

I just hope one day I am HALF the Sgt that you think you're gonna be.

-- Edited by Phil Atio on Wednesday 26th of August 2009 06:27:42 PM

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U guys are talking nonsense; they have just cancelled the liuten class as we speak untill further notice.hopefully our finest still come down

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I'm told up to now (1528 hrs) the sgt class is still going in! 

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I was told the same thing. The Lt and Capt classes were cancelled and the Sgt class is the only one going in.

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so what time will the sgt orders come down if so?


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Hater I hope u right

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Personnel Orders was told to hold the Finest message for now, they dont know when they will be allowed to send it.

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FINEST usualy comes down after 1730 Hrs

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And the waiting game begins once again...disbelief

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Baller you will thank me later.

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The City gave personnel the go ahead to send the finest message, it will be out tonight

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It came down people!!!!!

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How many and what number did it reach?

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60 people, #387 was the last to go in

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Could anybody post the names of people going in. thank you.

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what ranks are going in on monday?

are capt promotions being done?

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How many EXACTLY were skipped over due to time, etc.?

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More questions.... when and what time these lucky guys & gals will report in?

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