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comparing the 2 big answer keys


Whats up everyone, was just on the phone with Bertman and we were talking about his key vs. this "other" new key with the captains answers....pretty much both lists were on point but there was a few different answers

Berts list had 7 answers that were different from the answers on the new list...some of those different answers made sense because bert had some toss ups between 2 possible answers but there was 2 questions that were way off...anyways heres the ones that were different

37-bert had A, other list had D (this was the question with the error sheet, about the abused childs mom arrested and dad comes in)

i think this one will be throw out regardless because there was an error typing it up, plus i dont remember it exactly now but soemone said they put the wrong agency to refer the dad to...who knows

63-berts choices looked like this 63) A 10A 8C 2B 3D ???...new guys list had C...

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berts choices looked like this 65) B 16B 6D 2C....new guy had D....alot of dispartity between this one...anyone remember this question? i was confident with choice B as i marked it on my sheet

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berts choices looked like this 68) C 13C 9D 3A ???...new guy had D

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berts choices looked like this 74) A 14A 9B ???.....new guy had B

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berts choices looked like this 76) C 9C 8B 6A ???...new guy had B

83-berts choices looked like this 83) C 10C 10D 2B 1A???...new guy had A something is wrong with this one..does anyone remember this question...this one is really off, 24 out of 25 people had different answers. i actually think this MIGHT be the one with the guys going to court wearing different uniforms...if it was then A was the anti crime guy and C was the dude at traffic court in bus. attire with permission of the xo...any other suggestions?

for the most part only 2 questions really were "off" but everyone else please throw ur opinion in....i had an 82 with berts, and a 78 with new guys list but i think both of them did a good job...






-- Edited by BimpGod at 23:45, 2009-02-22

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dont think 83. was the court question... The correct answer to that question was the PO wearing shirt and tie
cant wear uniform to crt when restricted or sick
anti-crime can not wear jeans/dungarees to crt
bussiness atire, need authorization from C.O. not X.O.

83 I wasn't confident, have it marked on the answer sheet.... so far on every answer sheet I have that question wrong, in fact if this will help someone rember this question, 84 was about boy/girlfriend assault 3, you give the c/v a copy of D.I.R and tell her to call 911 if he returns...

-- Edited by hollar at 03:06, 2009-02-23

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Everyone of those questions should be marked wrong on everyones answer sheet...all of the other questions are pretty much on point...so like i said,  6-8 questions off.  if you get a 72 or higher without counting those questions above you should be fine.



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the court question could not have been the dude wearing shirt and tie, cause i rememebr it said SHORT sleeve short, not permitted in court

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BIMP YOU MUST HAVE TAKEN A DIFFERENT TEST FROM ME BECAUSE IT DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT A SHORT SLEEVE SHIRT AND TIE. IT JUST READ SHIRT AND TIE. no



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Bimp if memory serves correct, it didn't say short sleeve, that would have definately stuck out.... nevertheless, the other three answer are incorrect

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maybe u guys are right, i cant remember now 100% anymore, if it did say that then i def just read it too quick but i would have chosen that answer cuz that jumps out...seems to easy not to choose...

i just want my FREAKIN score already, im tired of waiting 5 weeks for a simple scantron to be marked!!!

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bimps a noob...dont listen to him

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my anaswer choices
65-B
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83-C
as far the question of uniform at Traffic court as observed by ICO well i chose the uniform of the day whatever it was-shirt and tie cuz all other choices did not make any sense. anti-crime cant wear jeans, traffic safety officer-needs permission of Co not Xo, restricted cant be in uniform
so the best answer choice was D-the uniform of the day tie whatever

-- Edited by sig226 at 03:50, 2009-02-23

-- Edited by sig226 at 03:51, 2009-02-23

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hey wutz up. ..............1st time on........2nd test......most are rite u cant rely 2 much on the keys...both did a gd job n im bout mid 70z  on both.    dont remember wht  that quest was but....they both r gettin d for q 45....that was a ccrb quest n d was that if a rr then u attach the sprint in 48 hrz....in the guide its 24 hrz...how is that rite???? i remember most quest n the one that stumps alot is the mobilization quest.   the 60 cop who lives in 120 n goes to 122,, maybe thats one that people get WRONG.......evileye   

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SHIRT N TIE.....NO SHORT SLEEVE MENTIONED...U ARE RITE GUY AS , W UR MEMORY ON THE OTHER CHOICES......

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RINGER: what is rr??? can u please be a bit more clear on your posts...

I cant imagine question 45 being about CCRB, and I getting it wrong, I put A...

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BIMP WHAT DID U N BERT N ANYONE ELSE PUT 4 THE MOBILIZATION QUEST??????????????  I WOULDNT B SURPRIZD IF THATS ONE OF THE WAY OFF ANSWERS!!!!! WHEN I DID BERTS, THE ONES I GOT WRONG I GOT W THE NEW KEY.. I WENT TO THE KEY N I GOT THE 122 ANSWER RITE.

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RR, RADIO RUN. I PUT A ALSO. I THINK IT WAS U GIVE THE COMPLAIANT THE COPY OF THE PAPER. ....SORRY  ON THE ABREVITIONS.

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I NOTED THAT ON MY SHEET . JUST IN CASE IT WAS D AND I GOT THAT WRONG ...MAYBE IT WAS A TYPO. 

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THE RINGER
the mobilization point is the 122pct the PO had to go to because he lived in S.I. and was with the Alternate location

Q45
give a copy to the c/v sounds correct, i cannt remeber the other choices or the fact pattern of the question...

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U WERE THE TS N SUM NUTCOMES IN THE PCT.......ONE WAS TELL THE DESK, ................D=THE OTHER WAS THE INVEST, ATTACHES THE SPRINT IF IN LAST 48 HOURS....A=I PUT SAME AS YOU WICH WAS A, GIVE A COPY TO THE COMP..... CANT REMEMBER THE OTHER ONE....I ALSO SENT THE 60 COP TO THE 122, I JUST THOT THAT WAS THE 1 PPL GOT DIFFERENT ANSWERS FOR....

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FOR THE RECORD I GOT 29 FOR THE FORCE FIGURES, WICH MUST OF BEEN THE CORRECT ANSWER CUZ ON BET MAN POST THE 1ST ONE I GOT WRONG WAS #12 N THEN # 18 WICH WAS AFTER IN BASKET!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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i didn't put D because i think the question stated that didn't happen that day... i was between D and A, but I know that you always give the complaint a copy of the complaint,... and not always will a sprint be available

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I UNDERSTAND....I GOT A . ALSO........D....WAS THE INVEST SUPER ATTACHES THE SPRINT IF THE THE JOB WAS FROM A RADIO RUN IN THE LAST 48 HOURS...............THE GUIDE SEZ 24 HOURS........... BERT MAN KEY. HAS D....

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THE 122 PCT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. One the cop had just finished his 1plt. In the PG. they give an example of the guy getting ready for his 1plt and the mobilization was broad cast in the third plt with an altenate then that cop goes to the 122pct. everybody else goes to their cmd for their next scheduled tour. On this case, the cop just finished his 1 plt. The mobilization was in the second plt meaning that first plt cop goes to his cmd at his next scheduled tour which is the 60 pct.. 



-- Edited by Oleiry at 22:06, 2009-02-24

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Thats how i answred that question.

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I'm pretty sure that in the question the cop was sitting down watching tv before his first platoon when he saw the mobilization on tv. It said to go to the alternate sites. If he worked on SI and lived on SI then he would go to his command. Because he worked in the 60 he goes to the alternate site which is the 122. During an off duty mobilization the people that report are everyone on RDO and everyone working the next scheduled platoon. The only people that dont report in this question would be the day tour, they would wait until their normal tour so they could provide reliefs.

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BTW, what question # was the mobiliz question

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THE QUESTION CLEARLY STATED HE WAS JUST COMING OUT OF HIS TOUR MEANING THAT THE MOBILIZATION WAS CALLED IN THE SECOND PLATOON. SECTION 213.10 GIVES YOU AN EXAMPLE AS FOLLOWS>In the event of a mobilization of off duty personnel, members of the service (uniformed and civilian) who are scheduled to report for duty with the next scheduled platoon or are on a scheduled regular day off (RDO), will report to their permanent command or, if directed, an alternate mobilization point. Uniformed members of the service in the rank of captain or above will, in all cases, report to their permanent command. All other members will report as per their regularly scheduled tours. EXAMPLE - An off duty mobilization is activated on the third platoon. Those members scheduled to report for duty with the next scheduled first platoon, as well as all members on a regular day off, will immediately report to their permanent commands or mobilization points, as directed. All other members will report for their next scheduled tour of duty. (THIS IS WHAT IM REFERRING TO) THIS MOBILIZATION WASN'T CALLED IN THE 3 PLATOON IT WAS CALLED IN THE SECOND PLATOON IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE UMOS FINISHED HIS FIRST PLATOON. MEANING THIS MEMBER WILL REPORT FOR HIS NEXT SCHEDULED TOUR. this schedule will allow for relief of mobilized personnel if the condition which originally necessitated the mobilization continues over an extended period.

  NOTE: Off duty members of the service required to respond as per this procedure are being ordered to report for duty.  Activation of this procedure will be transmitted via television, radio, or telephone.



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The question stated the MOS was watching the 6 PM news when the mobilization was called.

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I never saw that first platoon guy was watching the 6 pm news where are you getting this from? The question stated that the umos just finished doing his tour with the 1 plattoon when PC BROADCAST AN OFF DUTY MOBILIZATION.

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The umos was home after finishing his first platoon tour and was home watching the 6 pm news unborn was right and the umos lived on staten island and the COD ordered the off duty mobilization and all umos are desiganted to go the off duty mobilization destinations points

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you guys have been stressing urself and are forgetting the details.....he worked in the 60....lived in 120...and before he went to work he wanted to catch up on current events when the POLICE COMMISIONER activated a mobilzation and since he had  another tour to work it asked what or where does he report???? the 60pct...the 60 immediatly...the 120...or the 122....the answer is 122...cuz if u live in si...and work the next tour or rdo u go in ...n since he lives in si but works in 60 he goes to the 122!!!   its only one question so if u got it wrong u still have 29 more to go, maybe you will get something else that we didnt get... 

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ringer: which question was that, what number? 

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missy...im sorry im not sure but clearly this is and has to be one of the way off questions... oliery ...or whoever wrote that message.... that doesnt make sense what u are remebering...i understsand its normal cause its been awhile....but someone wrote he got out of a 1st pltn and hes watching the 6 pm news?????did he get a collar??lol   lol...lol.lol.......yes he works 1st pltn, but BEFORE HE WENT BACK TO WORK..WHICH WOULD BE AT 6PM...HE HEARD A MOBILIZATION... CUZ HE WANTED TO CATCH UP ON CURRENT EVENTS....I GUESS HES A BUFF...LOL...AND WANTED TO CATCH A BURGLAR ON HIS WAY TO WORK N GET OT....guys this is my 2nd test.. n when they usually have an answer it IS STAIGHT OUT OF THE GUIDE....N THIS WAS ..I COULD BE WRONG SO I HOPE PPL DONT GET DOWN ON THEMSELVES...I KNOW OF 8 OF 12 QUESTIONS THAT I KNOW I GOT WRONG.  N I THINK I STILL MAY HAVE MID 70S, BUT THEY CATCH ALOT OF TRIX, SO MAYBE IM MORE LIKE 10 OF 12..... 

-- Edited by the ringer at 05:53, 2009-02-25

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whatever the case maybe with the angel dust or off duty mobilization or force figures we will never know the answer until march 9th.....you can't change anything the only thing to say is you tried your best and left everything on the table. the sgt. test is not easy and you can know that PG like the back of your hand, if luck ain't on your side on that saturday, it's not pretty test. And don't go buy other people answer key, yes it relieves the mind until that dcas answer comes out but you can be setting yourself up for disappoinment, people fail the answer key here and pass on the dcas and vice versa and people get the same score here as they do on the dcas you never know. all i can say is good luck to all and i hope all of you pass

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Oleiry maybe u took the test on sunday, and they wrote the question different for you... but your details are completely wrong... the correct answer for that question is A, the 122pct

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Ringer, thanks. I just hate the wait and the overall confusion with the questions. I hope I am not getting more than 20 wrong, but who knows... I hope we'll all pass. 

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Hollar: do you remember that question's number? 

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I agree with you ALL!!!!! this test is no joke....it appears to be....but there is a bag of trix...i hope we all pass.....n if i dont, then i believe everything happens for a reason...at the very least from all the studying we ALL will be better for it, and maybe this will make things easier when your on patrol. from getting jamd up for some bull3333......I JUST WISH METALLICA GUITAR HERO WOULDA CAME OUT SO INSTEAD OF MAKING MYSELF GO CRZY UNTIL THE PROPOSED ANSWERS COME OUT I WOULD BE ROCKING OUT....ANYWAY IT WAS FUN ..THANX FOR PASSING THE TIME, ANS HERES TO HOPING WE ALL PASS AND ENJOYED THE ROAD ALONG THE WAY...STAY SAFE....AND REMEBER THERES ALWAYS NEXT TIME!!!

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HOLLAR BACK....I ALSO GOT A...THE 122...IM REMBERING IT EXACTLY, NO???

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sorry don't recall the number

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THE STORY...NOT THE NUMBER..

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The question stated the MOS was watching the 6 PM news when the mobilization was called.
MOS had to respond to Alternate site location.

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HOLLAR BK....I WROTE A POST ABOUT 5 OF MINE UP THE WAY, ISNT THAT HOW U REMEBER IT,,,,

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thsi is how i rember the question:
he worked in the 60....lived in 120...and before he went to work he wanted to catch up on current events when the POLICE COMMISIONER activated a mobilzation and since he had another tour to work it asked what or where does he report???? the 60pct...the 60 immediatly...the 120...or the 122....the answer is 122...cuz if u live in si...and work the next tour or rdo u go in ...n since he lives in si but works in 60 he goes to the 122!!!

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HOLLAR..................THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WROTE ABOVE!!!!WE COULD GO BK N FORTH W EVERY QUESTION, CUZ I REMBER A FEW....N CAN PROBABLY NARROW DOWN EACH OF THE QUESTIONS...BUT BEFORE YOU KNOW IT THE ANSWERS COME OUT...WHAT DID U PUT FOR THE HOUSING COP, GETTING SCHOOLED BY THE HOUSING SGT ON VERTICALS.?? I PUT IF ADJOINING POST IS NOT AVAILABLE , DO THE VERTICAL ANYWAY,,CUZ U DONT HAVE TO WAIT FOR VIPER,, AND HOUSINNG DOESNT GO OVER EVERY VERTICAL, CUZ CENTRAL WOULD REALLY GO CRAZY...AND YOU DO CHECK THE BASEMENTZ,

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RINGER:
thats the correct answer... i got that one wrong... housing

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That is not the correct answer.  The correct answer was to go over the air and give central the location.  Its the verbatim step 1 from 212-60.  Whether or not we do it in real life doesnt matter.  The other option was "absent exigent circumstances (1) or more officers must remain together and the ps can monitor the radio"  This is wrong because It should have said absent exigent (2) or more must etc......  They switched the 2 to 1 which made the whole answer wrong.  Some of the questions were very tricky, did anyone else notice that for the mobil question with the sgt said "The ps and his recorder should have their radios on and everyone else should have them off".  I picked this and its wrong because it should say The P/S and his Operator, not recorder.  Does anyone remember what # DARP question was with the govt and private vehicle???

-- Edited by METSIN09 at 18:30, 2009-02-25

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the DARP question was between 91-100

I notice that the sgt was the operator, they had like 3 other questions like that

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are u sure one of the answers for housing was to tell radio? i thought it said make AL entry before? hard to remember...if it was to tell central then i have no idea which i picked....any idea what Q# tht was so i can see which letter i chose?

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the housing question had to be either one of the following, because i know i got that question wrong....

55,83,85

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Housing answer was notify radio and make activity log entry. like metsin09 said its verbatim from the PG look it up if you dont believe him.

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