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FranknBeans · Senior Member

RE: LIST CUT OFF MARK.

2017Ltxam · Veteran Member

Topic is list cut off mark. I said IMO. So you need to calm down!

Bloombergscum · Member

Another point regarding this LT list I would like opinions on is as follows: I don't think its fair that a Sergeant who is dating a higher up or multiple higher ups in headquarters and is in a detail where SHE or HE can study all day under the protection of their lover and then gets a score on the top of the list should get promoted, while some poor, unconnected, regular working guy who is commuting to the BX, studies while working midnights on Patrol, and, therefore, barely passes the LT exam, should be cut from the list.

crappants · Senior Member

top of the list i wonder who u are referring too.

soccerpsyco32 · Senior Member

Bloombergscum wrote:
Another point regarding this LT list I would like opinions on is as follows: I don't think its fair that a Sergeant who is dating a higher up or multiple higher ups in headquarters and is in a detail where SHE or HE can study all day under the protection of their lover and then gets a score on the top of the list should get promoted, while some poor, unconnected, regular working guy who is commuting to the BX, studies while working midnights on Patrol, and, therefore, barely passes the LT exam, should be cut from the list.

Lol why? So you can publish another story in the Daily News? Go away.

TenNinetyUnion · Veteran Member

soccerpsyco32 wrote:
Bloombergscum wrote:
Another point regarding this LT list I would like opinions on is as follows: I don't think its fair that a Sergeant who is dating a higher up or multiple higher ups in headquarters and is in a detail where SHE or HE can study all day under the protection of their lover and then gets a score on the top of the list should get promoted, while some poor, unconnected, regular working guy who is commuting to the BX, studies while working midnights on Patrol, and, therefore, barely passes the LT exam, should be cut from the list.
Lol why? So you can publish another story in the Daily News? Go away.

.......Welcome to the NYPD yawn

Bloombergscum · Member

I was wondering if anyone hear ever heard of Civil Service "Eligible groups?" They are virtually extinct now. Basically, when the Civil Service Unions were stronger, candidates that passed promotional or other civil service exams would form a committee for the life of the Civil Service list they were on. For example, Firefighters that may have passed a LT exam in the 1960's would get together and form a committee to protect their rights under the LT list. The eligibles committee would elect a representative and pool money together to lobby DCAS or the Mayor's Office to pressure City Hall to hire off the Civil Service list rather than hire political provisional employees. These groups are totally different than what LT Blatt and the "nine heroes" did. It appears the "nine heroes" pooled money together and hired a lawyer. In the past, when Eligible groups were still more popular, yes, they would hire lawyers if need be, but they also would have regular monthly meetings to discuss the status of the list. Like a Club, these Eligible groups took on a life of there own. But I guess when all of the institutions that held communities together started to disintegrate in the 1980s (unions, churches, banks) , the "Eligibles group" committees went the way of the bowling alley. Does anyone have anything to contribute to this topic?

rookiebit_h · Guru

rookiebit_h · Guru

Bloombergscum wrote:
Another point regarding this LT list I would like opinions on is as follows: I don't think its fair that a Sergeant who is dating a higher up or multiple higher ups in headquarters and is in a detail where SHE or HE can study all day under the protection of their lover and then gets a score on the top of the list should get promoted, while some poor, unconnected, regular working guy who is commuting to the BX, studies while working midnights on Patrol, and, therefore, barely passes the LT exam, should be cut from the list.

DT-Tres · Senior Member

Bloombergscum wrote:
Another point regarding this LT list I would like opinions on is as follows: I don't think its fair that a Sergeant who is dating a higher up or multiple higher ups in headquarters and is in a detail where SHE or HE can study all day under the protection of their lover and then gets a score on the top of the list should get promoted, while some poor, unconnected, regular working guy who is commuting to the BX, studies while working midnights on Patrol, and, therefore, barely passes the LT exam, should be cut from the list.

Lmao

PD2FD · Guru

GO AWAY !!!

You're either:

A) An IAB rat

Or

B) A low-level journalist desperate for another article about "racially inequality" within the NYPD.

****This was in reference to Bloombergscum****

-- Edited by PD2FD on Monday 28th of May 2018 03:44:59 AM

-- Edited by PD2FD on Monday 28th of May 2018 03:49:09 AM

DT-Tres · Senior Member

Bloombergscum wrote:
I was wondering if anyone hear ever heard of Civil Service "Eligible groups?" They are virtually extinct now. Basically, when the Civil Service Unions were stronger, candidates that passed promotional or other civil service exams would form a committee for the life of the Civil Service list they were on. For example, Firefighters that may have passed a LT exam in the 1960's would get together and form a committee to protect their rights under the LT list. The eligibles committee would elect a representative and pool money together to lobby DCAS or the Mayor's Office to pressure City Hall to hire off the Civil Service list rather than hire political provisional employees. These groups are totally different than what LT Blatt and the "nine heroes" did. It appears the "nine heroes" pooled money together and hired a lawyer. In the past, when Eligible groups were still more popular, yes, they would hire lawyers if need be, but they also would have regular monthly meetings to discuss the status of the list. Like a Club, these Eligible groups took on a life of there own. But I guess when all of the institutions that held communities together started to disintegrate in the 1980s (unions, churches, banks) , the "Eligibles group" committees went the way of the bowling alley. Does anyone have anything to contribute to this topic?

I do not see the correlation between your post an this thread. Why would we need to pressure anyone to hire off the Civil Service list that's what usually happens.

Bloombergscum · Member

The correlation between the "Eligible Group" and this thread is that there is power in numbers. If there are "Eligible groups" they could fight in a united group to advocate against the list getting cut. This was one of the main reasons these groups were formed in the past as sort of a mini-union to protect the group of candidates' rights under a civil service list. In todays world, everyone is out for themselves. There is no loyalty anymore. Everyone is a selfish, sadistic bully. Currently, Everyone wants to be rich and punish the weak. Like I stated, these "Eligible Groups" are extinct. Rather than meet up in a meeting hall and discuss workers rights in an eligible group, workers today want to sit at home in front of 60 inch television screens and watch the Kardashians or the Apprentice.

Shotsfired · Guru

2017Ltxam wrote:
Dude stfu. The job promotes 180-200 LTs a year. List is good for 4 years. Do the math.

I love when over weight internet nerds that passed a simple 100 question test to become superviors in the nypd, **** on people. You guys wouldnt go anywhere on this job if it wasnt for a basic 100 question test. Stop with your bull**** predictions about the list being cut. I honestly dont care considering my list number is going to get me promoted. Just stop with the nonsense and let everything play out.

DT-Tres · Senior Member

Bloombergscum wrote:
The correlation between the "Eligible Group" and this thread is that there is power in numbers. If there are "Eligible groups" they could fight in a united group to advocate against the list getting cut. This was one of the main reasons these groups were formed in the past as sort of a mini-union to protect the group of candidates' rights under a civil service list. In todays world, everyone is out for themselves. There is no loyalty anymore. Everyone is a selfish, sadistic bully. Currently, Everyone wants to be rich and punish the weak. Like I stated, these "Eligible Groups" are extinct. Rather than meet up in a meeting hall and discuss workers rights in an eligible group, workers today want to sit at home in front of 60 inch television screens and watch the Kardashians or the Apprentice.

From my understanding, a promotional list is active for 4 years. In my opinion, 4 Years is a good period of time as it allows for a large number of people to get promoted and it also gives those that failed an opportunity to further their careers by taking another exam. Going based on history, for everyone to get promoted this listed will have to be extended past 4 Years or an unusual number of promotions have to take place. You speak about selfishness but extending this List past 4 years affects those that are waiting on another exam. As far as stating that workers like to sit at home and watch the Kardashians on a 60 inch television is a bit stereotypical. The workers that I know on this job are busy being a husband, a wife. Additionally, they are busy getting advance degrees, and trying to better their career.

4th Time · Senior Member

I understand the simple numbers based on what the norm is of LT promotions... However, they just promoted 360 plus sgts to lieutenant in 18 months... If this is done again, we're looking at the top 950 or so...at least.

-- Edited by 4th Time on Monday 28th of May 2018 03:07:13 PM

BlastLivesMatter · Senior Member

Shotsfired wrote:
2017Ltxam wrote:
Dude stfu. The job promotes 180-200 LTs a year. List is good for 4 years. Do the math.
You guys wouldnt go anywhere on this job if it wasnt for a basic 100 question test.

This is factual.

Leslie · Guru

BlastLivesMatter wrote:
Shotsfired wrote:
2017Ltxam wrote:
Dude stfu. The job promotes 180-200 LTs a year. List is good for 4 years. Do the math.
You guys wouldnt go anywhere on this job if it wasnt for a basic 100 question test.
This is factual.

Prob right. Thank god there is a way to bypass nepotism and *ss kissing on this job

Jams amici · Member

Just out of curiosity.... is it Bloomberg scum.... or Bloombergs Cum???

Bloombergscum · Member

It is Bloomberg Scum for your information. I was trying to convey my opinion on former NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg. This will be my last post. I think I'm going to take the advice of DT-Tres above and work toward obtaining an advanced Degree now. I want to thank anyone who had positive responses to my posts. Thank you. Good night Central.

-- Edited by Bloombergscum on Tuesday 29th of May 2018 02:23:34 AM

-- Edited by Bloombergscum on Tuesday 29th of May 2018 03:02:08 AM

Shotsfired · Guru

Bloombergscum wrote:
It is Bloomberg Scum for your information. I was trying to convey my opinion on former NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg. This will be my last post. I think I'm going to take the advice of DT-Tres above and work toward obtaining an advanced Degree now. I am going to try to spend my time more wisely, than post on this board. I want to thank anyone who had positive responses to my posts. Thank you. Good night Central.

-- Edited by Bloombergscum on Tuesday 29th of May 2018 02:23:34 AMU

Ugh, no one cares. Spend your time and go play in traffic.

jovin · Veteran Member

Bloombergscum wrote:
Another point regarding this LT list I would like opinions on is as follows: I don't think its fair that a Sergeant who is dating a higher up or multiple higher ups in headquarters and is in a detail where SHE or HE can study all day under the protection of their lover and then gets a score on the top of the list should get promoted, while some poor, unconnected, regular working guy who is commuting to the BX, studies while working midnights on Patrol, and, therefore, barely passes the LT exam, should be cut from the list.

This is the funniest post in rising star history. LMAOOO @ under the protection of their lover!!!

tweezy · Senior Member

"Lieutenants Promotional Exam
by Mike Yanosik - Tuesday, 29 May 2018, 4:32 PM

Greetings!

I would like to address a question that I am often asked.

Will the Department promote everybody on August 2017 Lieutenants Promotional Exam list all 1,325 individuals?

Based on history, I would expect the Department to run the list for four years. After four years the list will expire. If they reach your list number in those four years, you will be promoted. If they dont reach your list number in those four years, you will, unfortunately, die on the list.

So what list number will the Department reach?

No one knows! No one can tell the future. It will all depend upon retirements and vacancies. The more Lieutenants vacancies there are, the more promotions they will make."

There you go, now everyone shut the F*** up and close this stupid thread. Thanks

2andDone · Veteran Member

you forgot To include his business pitch to offer his digital guide

FranknBeans · Senior Member

jovin wrote:
Bloombergscum wrote:
Another point regarding this LT list I would like opinions on is as follows: I don't think its fair that a Sergeant who is dating a higher up or multiple higher ups in headquarters and is in a detail where SHE or HE can study all day under the protection of their lover and then gets a score on the top of the list should get promoted, while some poor, unconnected, regular working guy who is commuting to the BX, studies while working midnights on Patrol, and, therefore, barely passes the LT exam, should be cut from the list.
This is the funniest post in rising star history. LMAOOO @ under the protection of their lover!!!

Well I did midnights and did pretty well on the exam. It can be done.

monkeybones · Senior Member

@Bloombergscum write a story about a reporter who tried to infiltrate the Rising Star forum but failed miserably...

2017Ltxam · Veteran Member

Haha

Zeph · Senior Member

All these buffoons who think this list will go to the last name are dreaming big time.

BxPogiBoy · Veteran Member

You never know with this whole NCO program in place.

ohnoes · Senior Member

BxPogiBoy wrote:
You never know with this whole NCO program in place.

How so? Lieutenants have very little to do with the NCO nonsense.

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

ohnoes wrote:
BxPogiBoy wrote:
You never know with this whole NCO program in place.
How so? Lieutenants have very little to do with the NCO nonsense.

Im guessing hes referring to the NCO LT position which has been floated around. It was brought up at NCO stat recently.

I-go-deep · Senior Member

ohnoes wrote:
BxPogiBoy wrote:
You never know with this whole NCO program in place.
How so? Lieutenants have very little to do with the NCO nonsense.

Lieutenants (SOL) have a lot to do with NCO's in the real world.

Winning25 · Veteran Member

Plus dont forget all the old impact LTs... who are now better known as replacement LTs. They are up for grabs and doing very little.

CappedOut · Senior Member

I-go-deep wrote:
ohnoes wrote:
BxPogiBoy wrote:
You never know with this whole NCO program in place.
How so? Lieutenants have very little to do with the NCO nonsense.
Lieutenants (SOL) have a lot to do with NCO's in the real world.

I agree. And I think eventually they'll fall under the SOL. It makes sense, there's no longer a million special ops teams (three conditions teams, schools, etc).Now's probably a great time to be an SOL.

ohnoes · Senior Member

CappedOut wrote:
I-go-deep wrote:
ohnoes wrote:
BxPogiBoy wrote:
You never know with this whole NCO program in place.
How so? Lieutenants have very little to do with the NCO nonsense.
Lieutenants (SOL) have a lot to do with NCO's in the real world.
I agree. And I think eventually they'll fall under the SOL. It makes sense, there's no longer a million special ops teams (three conditions teams, schools, etc).Now's probably a great time to be an SOL.

Yeah but that wouldn't require a new position necessitating a higher Lieutenant headcount.

brooklynbacon · Guru

CappedOut wrote:
I-go-deep wrote:
ohnoes wrote:
BxPogiBoy wrote:
You never know with this whole NCO program in place.
How so? Lieutenants have very little to do with the NCO nonsense.
Lieutenants (SOL) have a lot to do with NCO's in the real world.
I agree. And I think eventually they'll fall under the SOL. It makes sense, there's no longer a million special ops teams (three conditions teams, schools, etc).Now's probably a great time to be an SOL.

I thought ncos always fell under the sol?

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

ohnoes wrote:
CappedOut wrote:
I-go-deep wrote:
ohnoes wrote:
BxPogiBoy wrote:
You never know with this whole NCO program in place.
How so? Lieutenants have very little to do with the NCO nonsense.
Lieutenants (SOL) have a lot to do with NCO's in the real world.
I agree. And I think eventually they'll fall under the SOL. It makes sense, there's no longer a million special ops teams (three conditions teams, schools, etc).Now's probably a great time to be an SOL.
Yeah but that wouldn't require a new position necessitating a higher Lieutenant headcount.

The creation of the NCO Lieutenant position is gaining a lot of traction. I recently attended NCO stat and I can tell you its a real possibility. The SOL has numerous responsibilities as is and a Lieutenant with more of a direct role in the NCO program is defini being discussed.

Mike Jones · Senior Member

Yea the SOLs work really hard lol

bigfoot45 · Guru

Only thing bad about the SOL spot is the constant meetings...otherwise it be great.

Leslie · Guru

bigfoot45 wrote:
Only thing bad about the SOL spot is the constant meetings...otherwise it be great.

Thats right and they go to compstat

Jman · Veteran Member

Leslie wrote:
bigfoot45 wrote:
Only thing bad about the SOL spot is the constant meetings...otherwise it be great.
Thats right and they go to compstat

SOLs go and sit in a corner. They do nothing at compstat. Those days are long gone. By far, SOL is the best spot in a cmd now. Used to be a headache with meetings and the push for activity. Now its a piece of cake.

ohnoes · Senior Member

Jman wrote:
Leslie wrote:
bigfoot45 wrote:
Only thing bad about the SOL spot is the constant meetings...otherwise it be great.
Thats right and they go to compstat
SOLs go and sit in a corner. They do nothing at compstat. Those days are long gone. By far, SOL is the best spot in a cmd now. Used to be a headache with meetings and the push for activity. Now its a piece of cake.

No OT. At least a platoon can make a little money on the occasional 49 or late job.

Regi · Veteran Member

ohnoes wrote:
Jman wrote:
Leslie wrote:
bigfoot45 wrote:
Only thing bad about the SOL spot is the constant meetings...otherwise it be great.
Thats right and they go to compstat
SOLs go and sit in a corner. They do nothing at compstat. Those days are long gone. By far, SOL is the best spot in a cmd now. Used to be a headache with meetings and the push for activity. Now its a piece of cake.
No OT. At least a platoon can make a little money on the occasional 49 or late job.

No OT? My SOL maxes our every quearter. I guess it depends where you work

Missing the Bx · Veteran Member

Regi wrote:
ohnoes wrote:
Jman wrote:
Leslie wrote:
bigfoot45 wrote:
Only thing bad about the SOL spot is the constant meetings...otherwise it be great.
Thats right and they go to compstat
SOLs go and sit in a corner. They do nothing at compstat. Those days are long gone. By far, SOL is the best spot in a cmd now. Used to be a headache with meetings and the push for activity. Now its a piece of cake.
No OT. At least a platoon can make a little money on the occasional 49 or late job.
No OT? My SOL maxes our every quearter. I guess it depends where you work

Def depends on where you work. I know guys that cap out and guys who get very little.

CappedOut · Senior Member

Everyone who has been around awhile knows how it works. Slow command with a well liked CO = OT. Busy command with a brand new CO = no OT.

Every single time. If you and all your guys are making good OT then your CO is leaving soon. And when your new CO comes. In, theres no Overtime. Doesnt matter if its a slow medium or busy command ... if youve gone thrrough 3 or more COs in the same place youve seen this cycle.