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Capt4me · Veteran Member

Captain Vacancies

AtomBomb · Veteran Member

Congrats to everyone that passed the Captains exam. Is The July 27 Promotion going to be for Captains only or does that also include scheduled promotions for other ranks?

-- Edited by AtomBomb on Sunday 1st of July 2018 10:00:42 AM

JustWonderin · Guru

They dont know yet. Those dates are just the next two scheduled promotions

Edubz · Senior Member

AtomBomb wrote:
Congrats to everyone that passed the Captains exam. Is The July 27 Promotion going to be for Captains only or does that also include scheduled promotions for other ranks?

-- Edited by AtomBomb on Sunday 1st of July 2018 10:00:42 AM

Couldn't see the Dept doing a capt only promotion..that would be a whole ceremony for 10-15 people. Most likely there will be other ranks.

bigfoot45 · Guru

Can anyone provide the currenct vacancies?

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

bigfoot45 wrote:
Can anyone provide the currenct vacancies?

11 as of today. Looks like the number of capt vacancies are picking up...which is a good thing. The job might actually go through the entire Capt list whenever it is eventually released. Time will tell.

JustWonderin · Guru

Looks like the rumor of an August 31st promotion is looking strong

Friar Tuck · Veteran Member

If the list comes out this week, isn't August 31 a long ways away?

papote170 · Senior Member

where is the list !!! ??? .... this is ridiculous !!

Capt4me · Veteran Member

Release postponed. Something was miscalculated. Wish I was kidding

papote170 · Senior Member

I knew it .. it was all #FakeNews

Transitblows · Senior Member

Its not fake news. Give it a week. As stated above they miscalculated points

Winning25 · Veteran Member

I heard the same rumor: list would be at 1PP today, but it got delayed because like every list dcas messed up with medal/jst points that had to be added in or something of that nature. You would think that this being the 3rd list this year it would go off without a hitch lol, but its not that simple different people handle different things for each test so its hard to expect them to get some kind of grove. After this list another what... 4 years before dcas deals with PD uniform promotions. So i bet those future Sgts/Lts/Capts will be doing this same thing lol. Just like weve done for all our previous lists, youd think wed learn lol. Glutton for punishment lol. Just take everything like a rumor until you see it and youll never be disappointed. Only pleasantly surprised...

63ASAP · Guru

As of July 16, there are 9 captain vacancies (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 38 on terminal leave. For captains only, it's at 12 vacancies and 12 on terminal.

Prop26 · Veteran Member

Thank you for the update.

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

63ASAP any additional update on the vacancies? TIA

63ASAP · Guru

As of August 2, there are 12 captain vacancies (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 36 on terminal leave. For captains only, it's at 18 vacancies and 12 on terminal.

Edit: If those numbers sound weird or off, it's because we're over by 14 for Deputy Chiefs.

-- Edited by 63ASAP on Tuesday 7th of August 2018 03:01:39 PM

nopromotioninsight · Veteran Member

Forgot to mention....Union said that the job is trying to cut down on the total number of captains spot from approximately 350 to 320 and increase deputy chief spots by like 9(I think). Obviously union is fighting them on it and requested that the job instead increase the number of DI spots.

bigfoot45 · Guru

As long as they dont cut down the total number of captain and Above spots.

Capt4me · Veteran Member

It is a big deal Bigfoot. If they Decrease number then guys not promoted will take longer to be promoted. If it goes from 350 to 320 then you are plus 30. Lets say if they increase di spots but decrease captains still. More promos from capt to di but still no movement on lt to capt

bigfoot45 · Guru

I dont really get it. someone has to backfill the promotion to deputy chief and to inspector and so on.

Capt4me · Veteran Member

I get what you are saying. As of now though according to that post nothing is being increased except deputy chief

nopromotioninsight · Veteran Member

Let's do simple math kids..... reduce the number of total captains spot by 30 and increase the total spot of Deputy chief by 9.

-30 + 9 = -21......net loss of 21 total members in the CEA.

now lets breakdown vacancies......

350 goes to 320.... that means, in essence, the job is determining that there is no reason for the following 30 captain positions to exist.....

With the Aug 31 promotion of 24 ppl... there will be more than 320 captains, therefore, there are no vacancies and the rest of the guys will have to wait longer to get promoted.

nopromotioninsight · Veteran Member

Obviously, 350 won't go to 320 overnight and it will be achieved through attrition over time. This really all translates to list moving really really slow.....

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

think its safe to say that we all want this list to move the way that our Sgt and Lt lists went. However, vacancies play a huge role in it and less spots means less promotions. The list will run the entire 4 years unless there is a mad exodus.

Iliketurtles · Veteran Member

I like turtles.

bigfoot45 · Guru

They arent decreasing the total number of executive spots to my understanding... just changing the breakdown of captain DI etc. So it shouldnt make any real difference. They arent adding 9 deputy chiefs and cutting 30 captain spots. Yes, that would be a net loss of 21. But thats not happening at least with the info I have.

nopromotioninsight · Veteran Member

Bigfoot....the original post says "the job is trying to" and this came direct from the union guys on day 1. The union said that they are fighting the job on this because it will obviously reduce their membership strength. Not quite sure who your source is but please contact one of the 23 other guys in this bmoc and they would be able to confirm that the union guys stated this.

I wasn't trying to create any **** post. I was only passing along information that is pertinent to rest of the guys on this list. Thanks!

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

nopromotioninsight wrote:
Bigfoot....the original post says "the job is trying to" and this came direct from the union guys on day 1. The union said that they are fighting the job on this because it will obviously reduce their membership strength. Not quite sure who your source is but please contact one of the 23 other guys in this bmoc and they would be able to confirm that the union guys stated this.
I wasn't trying to create any **** post. I was only passing along information that is pertinent to rest of the guys on this list. Thanks!

Thnx and please keep us informed of any other insights...

bigfoot45 · Guru

I gotcha. Well, that would certainly Suck. Thanks for the info.

RookieScum4Life · Senior Member

Deputy Chiefs are still part of the CEA. Assitant Chiefs and above are in a different union.

I-go-deep · Senior Member

RookieScum4Life wrote:
Deputy Chiefs are still part of the CEA. Assitant Chiefs and above are in a different union.

Yes indeed

63ASAP · Guru

As of August 16, there are 14 captain vacancies (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 35 on terminal leave. For captains only, it's at 19 vacancies and 11 on terminal. We're still over on Deputy Chiefs by 13.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

63ASAP wrote:
As of August 16, there are 14 captain vacancies (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 35 on terminal leave. For captains only, it's at 19 vacancies and 11 on terminal. We're still over on Deputy Chiefs by 13.

That takes into account the guys who just got promoted, yea?

Iliketurtles · Veteran Member

No because they have not been promoted yet.

63ASAP · Guru

As of September 4, we are over by 5 captains (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 30 on terminal leave. For captains only, it's at 2 vacancies and 8 on terminal. We're still over by 12 on Deputy Chiefs.

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

Guess this means that the slow down is about to begin...

63ASAP · Guru

As of September 17, we are over by 4 captains (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 33 are on terminal leave. For captains only, it's at 3 vacancies and 10 on terminal.

63ASAP · Guru

As of October 2, we are over by 15 captains (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 33 are on terminal leave. For captains only, we're over by 8 with 10 on terminal.

63ASAP · Guru

As of October 16, no change. We are over by 15 captains (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 36 are on terminal leave. For captains only, we're over by 8 with 11 on terminal.

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

Thnx for the update!

sixmonthwonder · Guru

63ASAP wrote:
As of October 16, no change. We are over by 15 captains (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 36 are on terminal leave. For captains only, we're over by 8 with 11 on terminal.

Thank you, very useful.

Friar Tuck · Veteran Member

63ASAP any additional update on the vacancies?

63ASAP · Guru

As of November 2, we are over by 11 captains (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 32 are on terminal leave. For captains only, we're over by 7 with 10 on terminal.

JustWonderin · Guru

Not much movement. I don't see how this rumor of 20 could be accurate

PD2FD · Guru

JustWonderin wrote:
Not much movement. I don't see how this rumor of 20 could be accurate

What's the 20 rumor again ? And I only see it holding true if the rumor of the mass exodus of higher ups becomes reality.

JustWonderin · Guru

A previous thread stated they were promoting 20-24 before the end of the year. They cleared up to list #85

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

6 More Cpt vacancies....

TO DEPUTY INSPECTOR:
CARLOS GHONZ
COURTNEY B NILAN
KENNETH S NOONAN
ROBERT S HACHEMEISTER
THOMAS M MANZOLILLO
CHRISTOPHER STILIANESIS

63ASAP · Guru

As of November 16, we are over by 11 captains (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 35 are on terminal leave. For captains only, we're over by 7 with 12 on terminal. Remember. this does not include any of today's promotions.

63ASAP · Guru

As of December 3, we are over by 10 captains (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 40 are on terminal leave. For captains only, we're even at 0 along with 14 on terminal. The terminal numbers look promising for you guys.