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bigfoot45 · Guru

Captain Vacancies

IhaveNoHook · Senior Member

bigfoot45 wrote:
Anyone have the current vacancies for captain and above?

As of today , we are still +5, at 355

JustWonderin · Guru

Those numbers should change soon with all of the executive moment thats been taking place

bigfoot45 · Guru

how many vacancies for DI and above? Have to look at that total to really see if there are vacancies

IhaveNoHook · Senior Member

bigfoot45 wrote:
how many vacancies for DI and above? Have to look at that total to really see if there are vacancies

I don't know what we are allotted for, but we have 418 for DI and above as of today

common sense · Senior Member

Hmm if we have an overage of captains, y r some commands without an XO ?

63ASAP · Guru

To help clarify a little more, I have the numbers as of 1/16:

Capt. and above is currently +13 (as stated before, +5 for Capt. alone) and 30 on terminal for Capt. and above, so it seems that will definitely work in your guys' favor soon.

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

What happened to the rumor that the job was restructuring the Capt rank so as to not count those on terminal towards the allotment? Anyone with any info?

Winning25 · Veteran Member

I hope it's a true rumor BUT with a new regime, especially a new personnel chief it might remain a rumor. Maybe it was an idea of the old regime that didn't come to fruition in time. Just an opinion no facts or special intel here.

staystrong · Veteran Member

Do all commands have steady part of the weekend RDOs and the CAT 1 for XOs???

wereinbacklog · Guru

staystrong wrote:
Do all commands have steady part of the weekend RDOs and the CAT 1 for XOs???

No

Edubz · Senior Member

No for steady RDO's or no for the CAT I car? I thought CAT 1 was all enforcement position Captains (excluding 1PP, PA, etc)

unborn · Guru

Edubz wrote:
No for steady RDO's or no for the CAT I car? I thought CAT 1 was all enforcement position Captains (excluding 1PP, PA, etc)

All precinct/TD/PSA XO's get the car. All XO's that I know has steady RDO's but I don't know every XO so there could be an exception out there. Steady RDO's are subject to change based on duties and details.

-- Edited by unborn on Saturday 27th of January 2018 12:59:22 AM

63ASAP · Guru

As of March 2nd, there are -5 captain vacancies (meaning the job is OVER on captains), and an additional 32 (Capt. thru Asst. Chief) on terminal leave. As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots. It's just the authorized headcount.

-- Edited by 63ASAP on Tuesday 6th of March 2018 04:13:25 PM

E D · Senior Member

How is -5 OVER?

ohnoes · Senior Member

Its how many openings there are. There are -5 openings.

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

And how many of those capts and above on terminal have 2 or 3 years on the books? I heard there is one chief who is on the books until 2021 Lol. They will retire by the time the list is dead. Just focus on the vacancies..

Copper · Senior Member

As of yesterday, + 5 Captains and 7 on terminal leave.

Copper · Senior Member

E D wrote:
How is -5 OVER?

On the printout generated by the OMAP, it shows -5 but if you read it carefully it really means that the job is over 5 Capts.

bigfoot45 · Guru

They curving this test to?

Chico Escuela · Veteran Member

No way theyll curve this test. Enough people passed

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

Who came up with this curving nonsense? Please lets act like we all passed three promotional exams. You all know that the test are not graded on a curve. The passing score is 70 and that it. You either got a 70 or didn't. Stop believing and giving credibility to this ignorance plz and ty. Now more importantly, does anyone have any info on the list coming out?

Samiam32 · Senior Member

Sgts test WAS CURVED. People went to the protest review session on Feb 28 to see which questions DCAS threw out and and only 5 questions were thrown out. However people with a 58 picked up enough points to now have an 80. Sorry but its a fact.

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

@Samian32 i've never heard of curving the test other than those prior to when RK changed it to needing a passing score of 70. There are numerous threads on the Sgt's forum about this but there has been no proof submitted. Everyone says o i know i guy that got a 10 on the test(according to him) and ended up with a 90; the test was curved. These are the same people that say O, I'm not studying and they magically end up with a 90 then say "must have been a lucky Saturday" The truth is, NONE of these tests were curved! If the test were being graded on a curve, it would have probably said so in the Notice of Exam and/or a finest message. I really wish that people would accept this fact and stop posting fake rumors and fake news. This site is the only resource that those on a list or hoping to be on a list come to for relevant information. We shouldn't make it into something else other than that because after all, we are or are going to be Supervisors.

Chico Escuela · Veteran Member

To be clear, I have never disputed that the Sgt test was curved. IT WAS. The points are not adding up at all.

As for what happens to the lt exam remains to be seen.

And again as for this captain test I had taken, I believe enough people passed. No need for any curving here

-- Edited by Chico Escuela on Thursday 15th of March 2018 08:37:39 PM

DETSGT · Guru

Sgt test was curved. Check someone's official score card from dcas. Their test score will be 88.256 or 74.245 before senority and medals. Test was a 100 questions so score should be between 1.00- 100.00

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

We need some sort of proof like DETSGT suggested...until the rumors about a curve are just that!

I-go-deep · Senior Member

25isthenew20 wrote:
@Samian32 i've never heard of curving the test other than those prior to when RK changed it to needing a passing score of 70. There are numerous threads on the Sgt's forum about this but there has been no proof submitted. Everyone says o i know i guy that got a 10 on the test(according to him) and ended up with a 90; the test was curved. These are the same people that say O, I'm not studying and they magically end up with a 90 then say "must have been a lucky Saturday" The truth is, NONE of these tests were curved! If the test were being graded on a curve, it would have probably said so in the Notice of Exam and/or a finest message. I really wish that people would accept this fact and stop posting fake rumors and fake news. This site is the only resource that those on a list or hoping to be on a list come to for relevant information. We shouldn't make it into something else other than that because after all, we are or are going to be Supervisors.

I agree, in order for a test to be curved it must be stated on the NOE or elsewhere. I believe it would be against civil service rules/law if a test is curved without notice. Before Ray Kelly was the PC they used to curve exams, so you didn't have to score a 70 to get on the list, you would just have to score a magic number. Can someone else who was on the job BEFORE Ray Kelly give some insight on how it worked? I've heard a few things from a couple of people, but I'm not really sure.

JustWonderin · Guru

DETSGT wrote:
Sgt test was curved. Check someone's official score card from dcas. Their test score will be 88.256 or 74.245 before senority and medals. Test was a 100 questions so score should be between 1.00- 100.00

I also heard the test was curved. The reason is due to the make-up exam being a completely different exam than the original. They had a lawsuit pending and as a settlement, they curved the test. If that was the case, then it would NOT be on the NOE

-- Edited by JustWonderin on Friday 16th of March 2018 12:58:11 PM

popeye · Veteran Member

Foil that s&!?

DETSGT · Guru

25isthenew20 wrote:
We need some sort of proof like DETSGT suggested...until the rumors about a curve are just that!

How do you end up with 86.927 raw? When there is a curve. And no throw outs don't change the value of each question.

Now let's move on. When is our list coming out?

-- Edited by DETSGT on Friday 16th of March 2018 11:01:44 PM

bigfoot45 · Guru

anyone have the updated vacancies for captain and above?

Lucas Hobbs · Member

Anyone else concerned with this scaling grading? Out list can balloon from a preliminary (rumored) 250 to about 300-350.

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

You have to figure if they did it with one exam, they will do it with all of them...

popeye · Veteran Member

Lucas Hobbs wrote:
Anyone else concerned with this scaling grading? Out list can balloon from a preliminary (rumored) 250 to about 300-350.

yeah but if you passed on The date of the exam you most likely will be in the 250 or better list so it would not be a big deal

karatekid · Senior Member

I agree with Popeye. This scaling is going to mainly affect people that scored a 70 -79 with people that originally failed picking up points and possibly passing them with military, seniority, medals, and JST. I think if you scored an 80 and up you won't be affected as much. Plus only 482 people sat for this exam so either way nothing should be too drastic as compared to the sergeants and lieutenants exam.

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

karatekid wrote:
I agree with Popeye. This scaling is going to mainly affect people that scored a 70 -79 with people that originally failed picking up points and possibly passing them with military, seniority, medals, and JST. I think if you scored an 80 and up you won't be affected as much. Plus only 482 people sat for this exam so either way nothing should be too drastic as compared to the sergeants and lieutenants exam.

Good point karate kid...looks like the Lt's list release is imminent since they are scheduling ppl for CARB. Hopefully our list is not far behind...

bigfoot45 · Guru

karatekid wrote:
I agree with Popeye. This scaling is going to mainly affect people that scored a 70 -79 with people that originally failed picking up points and possibly passing them with military, seniority, medals, and JST. I think if you scored an 80 and up you won't be affected as much. Plus only 482 people sat for this exam so either way nothing should be too drastic as compared to the sergeants and lieutenants exam.

I think 70-79 is a bit of a stretch. I would say like 70-74 at most. It's really hard to score a 69 or lower and then jump someone that scored a 75 or higher. Most guys and gals especially older ones aren't dong the JST, have already used vet points. The seniority points are the biggest x factor. But remember, those that passed also get seniority points etc. Those that scored a 70, 71, 72 raw are really the only ones at risk. You can look at the 2015 LT exam and get a sample after a ton of people were added that scored 65 to 69.

nyfinest111 · Newbie

No curves or what ever terms you want to use will be applied to this list. The list will be big enough and all will be made. Any further additions then the all who sat will be promoted. Don't wreck yourselves over other lists or what is rumored as to what happened to them. We will all be captains. Relax.

63ASAP · Guru

As of April 2, there are -1 captain vacancies (meaning the job is OVER on captains), and an additional 33 (Capt. thru Asst. Chief) on terminal leave. As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots. It's just the authorized headcount.

IhaveNoHook · Senior Member

63ASAP wrote:
As of April 2, there are -1 captain vacancies (meaning the job is OVER on captains), and an additional 33 (Capt. thru Asst. Chief) on terminal leave. As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots. It's just the authorized headcount.

actually, as of today we are at 348... which means we are short 2 spots....

63ASAP · Guru

IhaveNoHook wrote:
63ASAP wrote:
As of April 2, there are -1 captain vacancies (meaning the job is OVER on captains), and an additional 33 (Capt. thru Asst. Chief) on terminal leave. As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots. It's just the authorized headcount.
actually, as of today we are at 348... which means we are short 2 spots....

The captain rank includes all the way through AC. That's why the bolded number at the bottom, next to "sub-total", is -1.

63ASAP · Guru

As of May 2, there are 6 captain vacancies (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 29 on terminal leave. As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots. It's just the authorized headcount.

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

63ASAP wrote:
As of May 2, there are 6 captain vacancies (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 29 on terminal leave. As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots. It's just the authorized headcount.

Any update on vacancies? Lots of retirements...which is good news for us. Also, anyone have info on the people remaining on the old list??

papote170 · Senior Member

How about some news / updates on the new list ?

JustWonderin · Guru

25isthenew20 wrote:
63ASAP wrote:
As of May 2, there are 6 captain vacancies (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 29 on terminal leave. As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots. It's just the authorized headcount.
Any update on vacancies? Lots of retirements...which is good news for us. Also, anyone have info on the people remaining on the old list??

Where do you see that a lot of Captains are retiring?

Edubz · Senior Member

No captains being made at this next promotion. Looks like the dept is in no rush to put the list out.

Capt4me · Veteran Member

I dont think anyone was expecting captains on June 29. Be shocked if it was July 27 due to mentoring and list. As I stated before aug 31 would make sense time wise/mentoring wise/vacancy wise. But promos sometimes dont make sense

63ASAP · Guru

As of June 18, there are 6 captain vacancies (CPT through Asst. Chief), and an additional 33 on terminal leave. For captains only, it's at 10 vacancies and 12 on terminal.

JustWonderin · Guru

Thank you