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My fellow Sgt's, I've been following this site for years and I feel as disgusted as the rest of us.  Let us work with the facts, no one can even offer a mild explanation for the disparity in passing rates.  I always say numbers don't lie, 1 plus 1 always equals 2 (except in the NYPD of course). It's not even close, it is outrageous!!!  I agree the system is broken to say the least, but this is a fight for all the unions and they have to band together and fight for their members, which is why we pay dues, this fight is with DCAS by the way.

The research aspect of the exam is an area I believe we have grounds for a lawsuit, and I for one have a family member who is assisting.  There are very strict federal guidelines when dealing with human subjects and informed consent, no person can legally be forced to participate in research, even if it is only answering questions.  If anyone has gone to graduate school you know this, even conducting research surveys requires consent from the participants.  Adding in the fact that this was a live civil service promotional exam is even more troubling, NYS Civil Service Law requires prior approval from the NYS Civil Service Board to make any changes or alterations to Civil Service Exams, if you research State Civil Service Law you can see this for yourself.

This may not go very far, but I think it's worth the effort, hey I spent almost 6 hours a day studying to get a 58, so I have a little extra time on my hands lol. At the very least I would like the next exam to have 100 questions with no research, which last time I checked research does not go on forever, when is their research concluded.  When is this experiment over and what was DCAS researching?  We have a right to know what research we were involved in!  We should also demand that the SBA file notices on our behalf that we do not agree to participate in research for the next exam, I am sending Ed Mullins an email regarding this issue.

Btw #7 not only pulled this scam for the Sgt's exam but is also VERY good friends with a former PSA5 SOL who teaches the Key Courses, just food for thought and #10 was out maternity sick and called everyone she knew to get info on the test.

Say what you want about using the system to their advantage, but this was outright cheating and should be investigated. 



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Great Post OldDog. However I do not believe that the SBA will take much interest in our fight. Sergeants accusing other Sergeants of cheating on a promotional exam creates a conflict of interest for them. They can not represent one side without hurting the other. I do hope that we are able articulate a good enough argument which leads to some sort of investigation. I do not believe IAB will help either. Phone calls are always made and issues are always squashed. Not sure if DOI can help us either but Hopefully you are on the right track and can

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Everyone remember this when picking a school to study with, that those who are taking our money are behind the scenes helping others cheat their way to the top. The only ones with integrity IMO is rising star and I have no horse on this race, but if I study again I'll go with rising star and see how I do. One thing is for sure the schools have failed us so far in preparation for the LTs exam and it seems they may be involved in some shady stuff, I'll pass on them, up to you all if you feel the same way and make a decision moving forward how you will proceed.

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Do you guys think that when the scammers may have approached schools for study material, the focus was shifted on what the instructors knew was on the test from us and when we went to them with help for protests? Omg. Wow. I do remember seeing pics of some asterisked people studying class materials after the test was administered. Holy ****ing crap. I'm speechless. It never occurred to me before. Naive

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Loophole Lt s will be coming to a precinct very very soon. Will we bow to their cheated rank and yes sir/ma am them? Or will we make our disgust known and treat them accordingly? Believe it or not as sgts and sgts that band together we have a HUGE power over them. We push the cops. Not them. US. We get the guys to work. We get the much needed activity when it's time from the cops. Let these Lt s work for that-------they didn't work for their rank. let ur silence to them be known. Treat them as outcasts the way they should. There is nothin worse then being outcasted when ur new. Make the cheaters life a hell. Let the cops know who their new Lt is and how they value integrity.

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It is pretty interesting of a theory about the instructors cause I am puzzled how high these people scored . After all I think based on what these instructors charge and the actual prep the students are given is way off for the lt test .. I have no Ill emotion because I passed anyway but I would credit 70 percent of my success to crushing the patrol guide ... Other 30 percent goes to luck or divine intervention

Anyway not all but allot of motive is towards the almighty dollar ... I received a congrats reach out from a instructor ... I said thanks and was quickly responded with a " please recommend me to all your friends " Left a bitter test


Don't get me wrong these intructors do want us to succeed im sure with good intentions however I just think for what they charge is too much for what in latent terms is a failing product

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Yea I'm sure the guys at the schools would give up their gig teaching to help some people pass the test and to those that are still active I'm sure they are begging to have logs dropped on them for helping people cheat....give it up guy, it's one thing if the scammers cheated and it's another thing to start accusing everyone else for your shortcomings

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Yea I'm sure the guys at the schools would give up their gig teaching to help some people pass the test and to those that are still active I'm sure they are begging to have logs dropped on them for helping people cheat....give it up guy, it's one thing if the scammers cheated and it's another thing to start accusing everyone else for your shortcomings


Most people who teach for the schools are retired, why would they care about a log? I didn't reach out to any instructors for help with protests, but I know plenty of people who did. It would almost make sense for the instructors to pass that information along to their students who hadn't taken the test yet. We would want them to pass it on to us while we were in the class if they had some secret inside info before April 18th.

Not accusing anyone specific of anything, just saying your statement that it doesn't make sense for them to do that doesn't add up. It completely makes sense for them to help their students pass (by cheating).



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I understand the theory but come on guys it's getting out of control...the more theories people come up with the less focus we are giving to the real problem here. It just seems like accusations are being thrown around too loosely. I read somewhere where they said that someone from DCAS distributed the test out...my thinking is if we want them to properly investigate the problem we can't send them on wild goose chases 

 



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I understand the theory but come on guys it's getting out of control...the more theories people come up with the less focus we are giving to the real problem here. It just seems like accusations are being thrown around too loosely. I read somewhere where they said that someone from DCAS distributed the test out...my thinking is if we want them to properly investigate the problem we can't send them on wild goose chases 

 


That's likely untrue, but someone at the protest session absolutely escaped with the questions word for word, I guarantee it.



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Old dog I agree with what you're saying and as I've said before I feel terrible for those who didn't make the cut who put the same effort and made the same sacrifices I did. With that being said, I don't see the research aspect holding any weight. No one "forced" anyone to take this test. The Notice of Exam was there for you to read and consent to prior to paying the exam fee. If you did not agree to any portion of that document, then you shouldn't have taken the test. We all knew and had the understanding that there would be research questions because it was stated so in the NOE. As far as cutoff dates and operations orders debacle, that is a whole different issue, but saying we were forced to do the research questions won't hold up in my opinion. What do you think?



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Can someone run everyone's promotion dates please!!!!!!



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If you read my previous post you will see that I am more concerned with going forward. The future tests and the research aspect, I am in no way looking to hold up this exam because I have a few very close friends who worked their asses off and were lucky enough to pass on the original test date. I only referenced the cheaters so we know who they are and what is going on behind the scenes. In my opinion this will always be a factor, even though the difference this time is that it was so blatant and extreme.

The schools do not care about us, they are there to make money (keep in mind Bratton's Chief of Staff is a silent partner in the Key) and it is a personal choice if you choose to use them again. I for one will be using Rising Star and studying the old fashioned way like I did for the 2008 Sgt's exam which I passed without attending a single class.

I also agree that the unions will be put in a very precarious position when faced with the issue of fellow Sgt's cheating and I'm not sure how that would be overcome. We can simply inquire with our union as to what can be done for future exams regarding the testing process, ie: changing the day of the exam, the amount of time between the actual exam and the makeups, moving the multiple testing sites to the academy, etc, etc.

More importantly no one on this site can deny that the advantage was made much easier because so many members posted information about the test and I only hope that we learned our lesson and this does not happen in the future, as the saying goes, loose lips sink ships.

Please inbox me if you have any suggestions for my email to Ed Mullins, thanks.

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 Yes. This will be extremely helpful so everyone can estimate when they're up.



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I think the bottom line in all of this madness is to change the way tests are administered in the future. It affects EVERYONE, pass or fail. People will continue to exploit a broken system if given the opportunity. Those who do obviously have an integrity issue but that is something that is out of everyone else's control. Giving the test Monday - Thursday at the new police academy would eliminate a lot of our gripes. It's during the week which will accommodate those who observe the sabbath, and for our military members who have drill on the weekends. Holding it at the new police academy will provide a controlled environment where all test takers are subject to the same variables so no one will have an advantage over the next person. Doing these two things I feel would make a huge difference. As far as a makeup exam is concerned, if for any reason someone can not take the exam on the test day, then the makeup should be given a day prior or no more than a week later, circumstances permitting. What do you all think?

Even though I passed, ALOT of people that exploited the system knocked me down 30 names which is the difference between waiting a long time for a promotion the way LT classes are being put in. At the end of the day I'm just thankful to be on this list and have survived on the original test day, but I am going for Captain and I don't want the same thing happening to me the next time around.

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Schedule B I'm not sure and that's why I am going to inquire with a professional who can guide me better.  Just so you know I have conducted research in previous employment and I was asking this question this long before this exam and in no way does signing up to take a civil service examination waive the legal right to consent.  The two are mutually exclusive.

If you remember the NOE stated "may include OPTIONAL research questions". My only question is, if this portion was optional, then how could we opt out if we did not know which questions were for research purposes.

Please understand I am only posing this question and do not know the answer, which is why I want to consult our union first.



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I understand the theory but come on guys it's getting out of control...the more theories people come up with the less focus we are giving to the real problem here. It just seems like accusations are being thrown around too loosely. I read somewhere where they said that someone from DCAS distributed the test out...my thinking is if we want them to properly investigate the problem we can't send them on wild goose chases 

 


That's likely untrue, but someone at the protest session absolutely escaped with the questions word for word, I guarantee it.


 One simple solution to this mess is to have a protest session after the majority of makeups took the exam. THAT IS IT!

This way any leaks associated with protests will be eliminated and maybe have a test on a neutral day to begin with. The protest session solution will eliminate majority of questions and topics changing hands before makeups take their exam. Of course u gonna have some people falling through the cracks but not the majority where 70% pass vs 5%



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at the end of the day-----what I was saying all along was that people in the 60s on THIS exam were people who would have scored in the 70s and 80s on a fair exam. i spoke ans spoke and spoke of this makeup exam debacle from the get go. yes----the rumors were flying. i was posting what i was "hearing". but the facts were the facts about this makeup scam. the numbers didnt lie when i posted them MONTHS ago and they dont lie now. the fact that there were zero changes just spotlighted the shame these people play exam after exam. 62 of 76 are double scammers. all of the elite 128 is already BEAT hands down next capt exam. that is what needs to be changed. the fact that someone has a guaranteed spot on that list time and time and time again. it is guaranteed that their family and themsleves will be rewarded while the masses have to sacrifice their all,waste their money, and neglect their families for just a shot in the dark. its a roll of the dice for everyone else while the others know the deck being played already. the research questions got some over the hump because if you knew more of the ones that counted then the guy who didnt-----you made the list. all there is to it. so there was even luck to the ones that gave their all. something needs to be done. stay mad. keep up the fight. and let those that scammed know how you feel.

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You guys are really out of control. Most of what you guys are saying is pure speculation. Just because someone took a makeup doesn't mean that they cheated. If everyone that took a makeup was a cheater or scammer, then none of the makeup testers would have failed. You're going so far as to say that military guys can ORDER themselves activated, etc..... absolutely nuts. Keep in mind that religious groups and military are both protected classes in OEEO. Some of you guys better be very careful of what you say and post. This all could be considered discrimination and a Log# could be dropped on everyone bashing those groups or posting derogatory information. I'd be very careful! IJS


 if you are poor private first class at the button of weapons company somewhere in LI then yes you can not activate yourself. but if you are marine major in charge of admin stuff, pencil pusher, then yes you can mysteriously and legitimely go to California for some sort of a mission. military has all kinds of trainings all the time.

this doesn't apply for those weekend warriors who were deployed to Afghanistan(thats the only place where we conduct legit combat mission) Iraq is out of question unless you are in SF or drone operator. 


 I'm a operator for the USAF, wtf you talking about I had been to  places around the World you guys can't even pronounce, the **** this forum is writing is ****ing Ludacris about military members, listen I'm not saying some wasnt scamming and it didn't happen, but if we go back to the 2011 SGT exam 1600 cops pass the exam, my ****ing ass, i was there to see how many cops were cheating .... where was the out-cry when I was home for the exam and took it on the day with everyone else While I'm dealing with pre-deployment mission here and there, let's have a real talk, how many guys and gals in this department havent made an arrest on their own the majority the ranking officer on this job Will bury a cop if he or she doesn't bring him/her one and five a month, but never collar a soul out there once in his life, let's talk about the SGT that's on detail that pick up phone calls everyday and studying the entire workday, how about that, Cheating started from the PLAZA first B'cause i remember  rumors of the which operations order were being given on the date of the exam, a month before the exam.....so one day when **** hit the fan and you see that white shirt "military's scammers", prior military or still reserve pushing forward to suppress the threat, you get to be happy you get to go home to your kids/wife/husband....... I don't approve of this scamming system and now military members were just given the freedom to explore it now I'm just assuming but god know how long this been going on ...... yes I'm on military order now reading this dog ****, @ a PFC shooting course ( look it up Mitches) hero is sandwich to man that eat sandwich but my team is doing the dirty work, stacking body up so you could read your news paper and drink your coffee...... 



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If you read the majority of posts the angst is not geared towards military guys that are legit ... The frustration is geared towards the myriad of Bs line of duties , process of religious advantages and those who use military as a excuse such as guys who join the reserves in the coast guards and have drill ... And the scam is prevalent because you see numerous guys join the branches well into their careers

I'm pretty sure on our list aren't many rambos in Afghanistan or Mavericks flying overseas .. Again I'm sure there's some but not many

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You guys are really out of control. Most of what you guys are saying is pure speculation. Just because someone took a makeup doesn't mean that they cheated. If everyone that took a makeup was a cheater or scammer, then none of the makeup testers would have failed. You're going so far as to say that military guys can ORDER themselves activated, etc..... absolutely nuts. Keep in mind that religious groups and military are both protected classes in OEEO. Some of you guys better be very careful of what you say and post. This all could be considered discrimination and a Log# could be dropped on everyone bashing those groups or posting derogatory information. I'd be very careful! IJS


 if you are poor private first class at the button of weapons company somewhere in LI then yes you can not activate yourself. but if you are marine major in charge of admin stuff, pencil pusher, then yes you can mysteriously and legitimely go to California for some sort of a mission. military has all kinds of trainings all the time.

this doesn't apply for those weekend warriors who were deployed to Afghanistan(thats the only place where we conduct legit combat mission) Iraq is out of question unless you are in SF or drone operator. 


 I'm a operator for the USAF, wtf you talking about I had been to  places around the World you guys can't even pronounce, the **** this forum is writing is ****ing Ludacris about military members, listen I'm not saying some wasnt scamming and it didn't happen, but if we go back to the 2011 SGT exam 1600 cops pass the exam, my ****ing ass, i was there to see how many cops were cheating .... where was the out-cry when I was home for the exam and took it on the day with everyone else While I'm dealing with pre-deployment mission here and there, let's have a real talk, how many guys and gals in this department havent made an arrest on their own the majority the ranking officer on this job Will bury a cop if he or she doesn't bring him/her one and five a month, but never collar a soul out there once in his life, let's talk about the SGT that's on detail that pick up phone calls everyday and studying the entire workday, how about that, Cheating started from the PLAZA first B'cause i remember  rumors of the which operations order were being given on the date of the exam, a month before the exam.....so one day when **** hit the fan and you see that white shirt "military's scammers", prior military or still reserve pushing forward to suppress the threat, you get to be happy you get to go home to your kids/wife/husband....... I don't approve of this scamming system and now military members were just given the freedom to explore it now I'm just assuming but god know how long this been going on ...... yes I'm on military order now reading this dog ****, @ a PFC shooting course ( look it up Mitches) hero is sandwich to man that eat sandwich but my team is doing the dirty work, stacking body up so you could read your news paper and drink your coffee...... 


 Just to clarify: No one has any problems with members in the military. The problem we have is with the reservists who DELIBERATELY scheduled/requested their drill to coincide with the exam date for the specific purpose of talking the make-up so that they can cheat.

To get our ire you need these 2 factors (1. deliberate rescheduling with the 2. specific intent to learn what was on the test so that they can take the make-up)

Reservist on drill that weekend who didn't reschedule? We have no problems with you. Deployed? absolutely no problem with you. I couldn't care less if you took the make up because you HAD TO drill and came on this site to glance what was on the test. It's the people who called hooks and pleaded and begged to be "ordered" in with the SOLE INTENT to cheat.



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Nice abbreviation, it's not even shorter to type this.



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If you read the majority of posts the angst is not geared towards military guys that are legit ... The frustration is geared towards the myriad of Bs line of duties , process of religious advantages and those who use military as a excuse such as guys who join the reserves in the coast guards and have drill ... And the scam is prevalent because you see numerous guys join the branches well into their careers

I'm pretty sure on our list aren't many rambos in Afghanistan or Mavericks flying overseas .. Again I'm sure there's some but not many


FYI Afganistan isnt our only front..... But i see what you saying? 



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Nice abbreviation, it's not even shorter to type this.



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#14 on the list tried getting the answers while deployed, there's a screenshot going around of him trying to get answers...when he was rebuffed he resorted to trying guilt trip people by saying he was in Jordan fighting Isis, who knows what he received or what he was able to pull off.

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Shame !! Shame !! Shame !!

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I'm sorry fellows but this forum only serves to aide the scammers. As a matter of fact many people monitoring this forum know the scammers. Be careful what you post in here and don't be surprised if your content gets deleted if it's relevant. You're being played.

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I'm sorry fellows but this forum only serves to aide the scammers. As a matter of fact many people monitoring this forum know the scammers. Be careful what you post in here and don't be surprised if your content gets deleted if it's relevant. You're being played.


 Wisecop, 

I'm getting pretty sick of you.  We are all pissed about the scamming.  You and I will both have to wait months longer to get promoted because of the scamming.  We will probably be in BMOC together.  I haven't deleted a damn thing from these threads unless it was complete trolling or if someone requested it be taken down.



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#14 on the list tried getting the answers while deployed, there's a screenshot going around of him trying to get answers...when he was rebuffed he resorted to trying guilt trip people by saying he was in Jordan fighting Isis, who knows what he received or what he was able to pull off.


 I can cofirm this I have seen the screenshot, real scum bag move 



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#14 on the list tried getting the answers while deployed, there's a screenshot going around of him trying to get answers...when he was rebuffed he resorted to trying guilt trip people by saying he was in Jordan fighting Isis, who knows what he received or what he was able to pull off.


 I can cofirm this I have seen the screenshot, real scum bag move 


 What a disgrace.  There are no U.S. troops fighting isis in Jordan. Also he's a truck driver in the Marines assigned to a reserve unit. The front line is not in his future or past. Shame. 



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#14 on the list tried getting the answers while deployed, there's a screenshot going around of him trying to get answers...when he was rebuffed he resorted to trying guilt trip people by saying he was in Jordan fighting Isis, who knows what he received or what he was able to pull off.


 I can cofirm this I have seen the screenshot, real scum bag move 


 I saw it as well. What a clown



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You guys are really out of control. Most of what you guys are saying is pure speculation. Just because someone took a makeup doesn't mean that they cheated. If everyone that took a makeup was a cheater or scammer, then none of the makeup testers would have failed. You're going so far as to say that military guys can ORDER themselves activated, etc..... absolutely nuts. Keep in mind that religious groups and military are both protected classes in OEEO. Some of you guys better be very careful of what you say and post. This all could be considered discrimination and a Log# could be dropped on everyone bashing those groups or posting derogatory information. I'd be very careful! IJS


 if you are poor private first class at the button of weapons company somewhere in LI then yes you can not activate yourself. but if you are marine major in charge of admin stuff, pencil pusher, then yes you can mysteriously and legitimely go to California for some sort of a mission. military has all kinds of trainings all the time.

this doesn't apply for those weekend warriors who were deployed to Afghanistan(thats the only place where we conduct legit combat mission) Iraq is out of question unless you are in SF or drone operator. 


 I'm a operator for the USAF, wtf you talking about I had been to  places around the World you guys can't even pronounce, the **** this forum is writing is ****ing Ludacris about military members, listen I'm not saying some wasnt scamming and it didn't happen, but if we go back to the 2011 SGT exam 1600 cops pass the exam, my ****ing ass, i was there to see how many cops were cheating .... where was the out-cry when I was home for the exam and took it on the day with everyone else While I'm dealing with pre-deployment mission here and there, let's have a real talk, how many guys and gals in this department havent made an arrest on their own the majority the ranking officer on this job Will bury a cop if he or she doesn't bring him/her one and five a month, but never collar a soul out there once in his life, let's talk about the SGT that's on detail that pick up phone calls everyday and studying the entire workday, how about that, Cheating started from the PLAZA first B'cause i remember  rumors of the which operations order were being given on the date of the exam, a month before the exam.....so one day when **** hit the fan and you see that white shirt "military's scammers", prior military or still reserve pushing forward to suppress the threat, you get to be happy you get to go home to your kids/wife/husband....... I don't approve of this scamming system and now military members were just given the freedom to explore it now I'm just assuming but god know how long this been going on ...... yes I'm on military order now reading this dog ****, @ a PFC shooting course ( look it up Mitches) hero is sandwich to man that eat sandwich but my team is doing the dirty work, stacking body up so you could read your news paper and drink your coffee...... 


 It might be easier to understand what the hell you are talking about if you didn't write a nonstop run-on sentence.  



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Nice abbreviation, it's not even shorter to type this.



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#14 on the list tried getting the answers while deployed, there's a screenshot going around of him trying to get answers...when he was rebuffed he resorted to trying guilt trip people by saying he was in Jordan fighting Isis, who knows what he received or what he was able to pull off.


 I can cofirm this I have seen the screenshot, real scum bag move 


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If that is the case then the person who didn't say anything needs a log drop as well.

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The screenshot is out there and in possession of numerous people.

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Jraming said his air force team is "stacking bodies"? Lol. He sounds like a 13 year old talking $h!T while playing call of duty online.

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My sister in law is a captain in the Air Force, that guy is full of crap.

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Jraming said his air force team is "stacking bodies"? Lol. He sounds like a 13 year old talking $h!T while playing call of duty online.


 When in 2003 i was pushing toward Baghdad with 3/7 out of 29 palms, this usaf operator was splashing in the pool at kuweity  Ali Al Salem air force base lol



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#32 failed easy 2008 sgt test, then barely passed 2009 test. And he passed this abortion??? Something fishy here. I am sure he finigled the drill on the test date thru his coast guard unit. Log# gotta be dropped, phone call must be made to that reserve unit

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Does anyone have Intel on number 1?


 Brooklyn svu. Military.  Prior combat service. Alot of time in rank. From what I hear a good guy. 


 Yea ..he can be a good guy. .but God damn. .can someone explain to me how it can be possible to score 104.493 on this exam ! ? Even if u can be able to accumulated 10 points for seniority / military etc.. getting a 94 straight up was impossible on this exam ! 



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My sister in law is a captain in the Air Force, that guy is full of crap.


 Lmfao, your sister in law is a captain, do me a favor eat your gun, CTT now JTaC go do some reading, and this guy want to be a white shirt..... This job is going to **** 



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Jraming said his air force team is "stacking bodies"? Lol. He sounds like a 13 year old talking $h!T while playing call of duty online.


 When in 2003 i was pushing toward Baghdad with 3/7 out of 29 palms, this usaf operator was splashing in the pool at kuweity  Ali Al Salem air force base 

@sig Marines /Air Force/  army  division supply, few tankers, infantry ......push towards baghdad please even Coast Guard...... So stop it ...... small arm and RPG's  irritation wasn't **** , not until IAD changed the game and that was when the joe's couldnt control it anymore.....  (stabilize Iraq)  but you know what let me stop @ at least you served Our country.... Thank you 



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I think the bottom line in all of this madness is to change the way tests are administered in the future. It affects EVERYONE, pass or fail. People will continue to exploit a broken system if given the opportunity. Those who do obviously have an integrity issue but that is something that is out of everyone else's control. Giving the test Monday - Thursday at the new police academy would eliminate a lot of our gripes. It's during the week which will accommodate those who observe the sabbath, and for our military members who have drill on the weekends. Holding it at the new police academy will provide a controlled environment where all test takers are subject to the same variables so no one will have an advantage over the next person. Doing these two things I feel would make a huge difference. As far as a makeup exam is concerned, if for any reason someone can not take the exam on the test day, then the makeup should be given a day prior or no more than a week later, circumstances permitting. What do you all think?

Even though I passed, ALOT of people that exploited the system knocked me down 30 names which is the difference between waiting a long time for a promotion the way LT classes are being put in. At the end of the day I'm just thankful to be on this list and have survived on the original test day, but I am going for Captain and I don't want the same thing happening to me the next time around.


That would be a lot better than what they do now. Parking would be an issue, especially for a sergeant test, but I'm sure something could be done.



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Does anyone have Intel on number 1?


 Brooklyn svu. Military.  Prior combat service. Alot of time in rank. From what I hear a good guy. 


 Yea ..he can be a good guy. .but God damn. .can someone explain to me how it can be possible to score 104.493 on this exam ! ? Even if u can be able to accumulated 10 points for seniority / military etc.. getting a 94 straight up was impossible on this exam ! 


Yeah, I heard he was a good guy too, but he still cheated. 104? Come on, Pulaski couldn't have gotten higher than an 80 on this thing.



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Does anyone have Intel on number 1?


 Brooklyn svu. Military.  Prior combat service. Alot of time in rank. From what I hear a good guy. 


 Yea ..he can be a good guy. .but God damn. .can someone explain to me how it can be possible to score 104.493 on this exam ! ? Even if u can be able to accumulated 10 points for seniority / military etc.. getting a 94 straight up was impossible on this exam ! 


Yeah, I heard he was a good guy too, but he still cheated. 104? Come on, Pulaski couldn't have gotten higher than an 80 on this thing.


He is not so smart either,  how the hell he had guts to outscore everyone to be the No. 1. What a stupid nice guy!  STILL, He is a scammer.



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I'm sure he is a good guy. That's why someone hooked him up.



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Lmao. Im not going to lie this forum makes me laugh. I see a bunch of haters here. So my question is the following.... How does that affect the YOU?? If you failed the exam?? . It is what it is folks. There is an exam coming up in early 2017 start reading now, I guarantee it would be better than this past one. This is the worst exam in the history I believe. Now stop bashing these folks , get to know this folks they may be nice people with great leadership skills. And dont get me wrong I think the system is ****ed up but is not their fault they just taking advantage of an opportunity. Many of us in their shoes will do the same. I know one guy in this list that was legitimately deployed and got back just in time to take the exam. Understand that theses military folks regardless of what you think are doing or have done many sacrifices for YOUR country... Our country. Or if they havent is a posibility they will one day. Yes Iam a vereran and i dont like when my armed forces folks get humiliated by ignorant individuals. Now to end this conversation I understand how most of you feel about certain military individuals with no integrity values that would purposely schedule a training on exam date, thats disgusting. I never did that and i never will. I wouldnt be able to enjoy the rank cause i would fell i didnt earn it. But thats not always the case for every military guys on this list. I know bunch of reservist that took the test on exam date and fail like alot of us.

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