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Futureauxiliary · Guru

1st LT BMOC

Spanish mama · Guru

You think? Been doing this for last 2 days. Threads getting deleted. Meanwhile nonsense spam that 3 same members keep posting stays up. Hey mods, whats going on????

-- Edited by Spanish mama on Friday 29th of December 2023 03:29:11 PM

TenFour16 · Guru

There was supposed to be a class of 100 in December. Heres to it !

100 for January !!!

CryTwoSeven · Guru

Apologies. Deleted in error. Thought it was duplicate post.

Ill keep this one up.

22nhalf · Veteran Member

So my buddy the Janitor just informed me that 250 might be going in January, the rest of the list going have to wait it out for awhile, take that with a grain of salt.

Nyc5000 · Senior Member

Heard 70-100 on 1/26

Spanish mama · Guru

100 is just crazy talk

Spanish mama · Guru

How long is Lt bmoc?

Futureauxiliary · Guru

Spanish mama wrote:
How long is Lt bmoc?

I believe its 10 days.

RachDawg · Senior Member

Spanish mama wrote:
100 is just crazy talk

100 does seem like crazy talk.. but lot of commands to be backfilled they haven't made lieutenants in a while

fodx · Guru

Spanish mama wrote:
How long is Lt bmoc?

Two weeks. Think of the chart time you'll lose in those two weeks

-- Edited by fodx on Friday 29th of December 2023 07:57:55 PM

El Norte · Senior Member

How long do you think it will take to realistically burn through the first 500 names?

TicketoutofNarco · Veteran Member

El Norte wrote:
How long do you think it will take to realistically burn through the first 500 names?

My guess.. Approx 300 names a year

No1isbetter · Guru

I believe 2024 will have a higher #of promotions, Id say 400/250+/250+/250+

Taketheday · Guru

The average is usually 200-250 so ot should be in that range

Spanish mama · Guru

No1isbetter wrote:
I believe 2024 will have a higher #of promotions, Id say 400/250+/250+/250+

That would be incredible

Veteran Member

We will likely see more than the normal 200-250 in 2024 since they are down approx 150 LT right now. Should be similar to whats happening with the Sgts list. They around list #550 in 8 months. Took almost a year and a half to get to that number for the 2017 sgt list.think they were down around 500 when they started hiring off that 2022 exam

No1isbetter · Guru

More retirements are coming. 12hr tours is expanding. Theyll hit 300 for 2024 for sure, but I truly believe well touch close, if not 400.

Spanish mama · Guru

No1isbetter wrote:
More retirements are coming. 12hr tours is expanding. Theyll hit 300 for 2024 for sure, but I truly believe well touch close, if not 400.

Heard 300 or higher from a different source. Perhaps wishful thinking .

Nyc5000 · Senior Member

I think a class of 100 is unlikely. If theres 150 vacancies theyre not gonna erase the vacancies and have an excess of 50 Lt in just two months. Ill predict a tops of 75 for January. No source, just speculation

Taketheday · Guru

Nyc5000 wrote:
I think a class of 100 is unlikely. If theres 150 vacancies theyre not gonna erase the vacancies and have an excess of 50 Lt in just two months. Ill predict a tops of 75 for January. No source, just speculation

I agree I think they will ease in with a class of 50-75 most likely and end the year around 250ish and probably do another 200-250 for 2025 depending on the vacancies and how many Captains they promote

Nyc5000 · Senior Member

Taketheday wrote:
Nyc5000 wrote:
I think a class of 100 is unlikely. If theres 150 vacancies theyre not gonna erase the vacancies and have an excess of 50 Lt in just two months. Ill predict a tops of 75 for January. No source, just speculation
I agree I think they will ease in with a class of 50-75 most likely and end the year around 250ish and probably do another 200-250 for 2025 depending on the vacancies and how many Captains they promote

I agree, but I think we should start with predicting January before we start predicting 2025 lol

Allout · Senior Member

I think theyll be at 150 by March and 400 by December

El Norte · Senior Member

Now that we Know the list is out and its looking good for 2024, a little off topic but guys lets keep our people safe for the holidays, for some reason this time of year has historically been tough for cops getting hurt. Anyone with a little bit of time on can think back and see that this has been true for our Department as well as others across the country around this time of year. Maybe the holidays bring out craziness in society and were there to deal with it, anyway stay safe.

Spanish mama · Guru

2017 LT list first class had promotions in the beginning of the month, 6/5. Any chance its possible to have a begining of the month promo for Jan?

Nyc5000 · Senior Member

Spanish mama wrote:
2017 LT list first class had promotions in the beginning of the month, 6/5. Any chance its possible to have a begining of the month promo for Jan?

Doubtful. What would be more relevant? A promotion date 6 years ago? Or the current schedule of bmoc classes? I say end of January. Never know though.

-- Edited by Nyc5000 on Saturday 30th of December 2023 05:35:01 AM

Raymond Reddington · Senior Member

Nyc5000 wrote:
Spanish mama wrote:
2017 LT list first class had promotions in the beginning of the month, 6/5. Any chance its possible to have a begining of the month promo for Jan?
Doubtful. What would be more relevant? A promotion date 6 years ago? Or the current schedule of bmoc classes? I say end of January. Never know though.

-- Edited by Nyc5000 on Saturday 30th of December 2023 05:35:01 AM

Current LT BMOC of 2 ends second week of Jan. Job can put a class on Jan 10 and have them attend ceremony on Jan 26.

3testwonder · Senior Member

Congrats to all who made it. Original list size was closed to 1500. Last minute scaling was changed. Anyways. There is a January Lt class scheduled. 70-105 is the number. Gluck

No1isbetter · Guru

Allout wrote:
I think theyll be at 150 by March and 400 by December

This sounds about right. I was being optimistic for 200 by class 3.

Nyc5000 · Senior Member

Raymond Reddington wrote:
Nyc5000 wrote:
Spanish mama wrote:
2017 LT list first class had promotions in the beginning of the month, 6/5. Any chance its possible to have a begining of the month promo for Jan?
Doubtful. What would be more relevant? A promotion date 6 years ago? Or the current schedule of bmoc classes? I say end of January. Never know though.

-- Edited by Nyc5000 on Saturday 30th of December 2023 05:35:01 AM
Current LT BMOC of 2 ends second week of Jan. Job can put a class on Jan 10 and have them attend ceremony on Jan 26.

Arent Lt promotions almost always before bmoc and not after?

Allout · Senior Member

I see at least one pass over betweenlist numbers 40-50

No1isbetter · Guru

Allout wrote:
I see at least one pass over betweenlist numbers 40-50

Reasons for Passover: Jammed up, CARB, Restricted/OutSick, less than 2 years in Rank, Retiring, Voluntary Pass, less than 96 credits. List of 1218 youll have 50-100.

35amonth · Senior Member

Allout wrote:
I see at least one pass over betweenlist numbers 40-50

yea- when you see the name, you cant unsee it. He did really well though. Carb is going to eat him alive.hope he makes it.

Allout · Senior Member

No1isbetter wrote:
Allout wrote:
I see at least one pass over betweenlist numbers 40-50
Reasons for Passover: Jammed up, CARB, Restricted/OutSick, less than 2 years in Rank, Retiring, Voluntary Pass, less than 96 credits. List of 1218 youll have 50-100.

I agree. There are a bunch on here with the money and a few with 20+. I can see 100 being eliminated or retired which will essentially have this list around 1100.

Judy Ruliani · Veteran Member

No1isbetter wrote:
Allout wrote:
I think theyll be at 150 by March and 400 by December
This sounds about right. I was being optimistic for 200 by class 3.

With Passovers and the amount of vacancies I agree. The first 150 will be promoted by March latest. I can see 30-40 every other month and maybe 1 or 2 back to back months. Which will get this to 400 ish. After that itll slow down dramatically like the captains list. Everyone will get promoted but this list will run the 4 year course.

Spanish mama · Guru

those of you in the know, how many pass overs you guys see for first 200? NO names!

No1isbetter · Guru

Say 1 in every 10. So 20.

Raymond Reddington · Senior Member

No1isbetter wrote:
Say 1 in every 10. So 20.

Current Captain list shows 13 skipped out of 120.

Arrow · Senior Member

Number 714 is already Promoted.

-- Edited by Arrow on Saturday 30th of December 2023 05:52:25 PM

Futureauxiliary · Guru

We need a good lad or gal who can volunteer and update this list as promotions occur, people retire/vest out, passovers etc.

Nyc5000 · Senior Member

I wonder if the first class will include any remaining holders from old list?

Spanish mama · Guru

hoping not. they would have promoted them with the other 2 last month, since the job expected this list much earlier.

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

Theres always a group of holdovers that get held until the last possible second, and get promoted with first class of new list.

Spanish mama · Guru

Remember, the job expected list for last promo. They only put in 2 holdovers. If they had more , I believe they would have done in. This list did not hold them up in any way

-- Edited by Spanish mama on Saturday 30th of December 2023 10:59:28 PM

Nyc5000 · Senior Member

Spanish mama wrote:
Remember, the job expected list for last promo. They only put in 2 holdovers. If they had more , I believe they would have done in. This list did not hold them up in any way

-- Edited by Spanish mama on Saturday 30th of December 2023 10:59:28 PM

Could be the jobs last way in messing with them. Make the last few jammed up holdovers sweat it out as long as possible

Zeph · Senior Member

You guys are really on something. You think the job has time to worry about jammed up people; wants to play around with a promotional list; just to mess with them.

Spanish mama · Guru

Zeph wrote:
You guys are really on something. You think the job has time to worry about jammed up people; wants to play around with a promotional list; just to mess with them.

Although I do not believe this is the case, Im guessing you werent around for PC Kelly era?

-- Edited by Spanish mama on Sunday 31st of December 2023 11:49:52 AM

Nyc5000 · Senior Member

Isnt the point of passing over jammed up people, precisely to mess with them?

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

Zeph wrote:
You guys are really on something. You think the job has time to worry about jammed up people; wants to play around with a promotional list; just to mess with them.

You either never were jammed up nor personally know someone jammed up. Im not trying to insult you, but I can guarantee you that the job purposely holds ppl til last second as a way of punishment.

if you get in trouble, get suspende/modified for a year, go to trial and pay your penalty. Do your one year of probation. Stay out of trouble. Why other reason could justify continuously being skipped for promotion?

No1isbetter · Guru

Good ol PC Kelly days. That guy would keep you modified as long as he pleased. CARB? Good luck passing on first try. I dont think the job is fucking with them right now, and I do agree if they were going to promote them, they wouldve last promotions, therefore imo the next class going in will contain only new list ppl.