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Must take Fridays off as well as summers.

While the 1200+ of us bargain bin Sgt's still continue to work and try to make ends meet, the union continues to say they're fighting for us. They're not. This isn't new. Unions always sell someone out. We are it. And I have news for you, the other 3,000+ Sgt's in this union give zero fucks about us, Vinny included. The 96xxxx top pay Sgt's and the senior ones close or ready for retirement. We get burned on this one. Just get a fucking contract already. This will all happen over again next round of agreements years from now. The union doesn't learn. Luckily for me I'm out in a couple years (hopefully.)

Vinny is too busy for that. Hes working extra OT to make this contract happen. The only members that really care are the ones making 96k. Go ask a top pay Sgt and see how worried they are about the contract.

Not sure if Vinny plans to keep us in the loop so I tracked down the minutes myself

These mother fuckers sold us out in 2021, adding a step to top pay for fucking bullshit trash raises that Smalls dick said was a great financial decision, fucking scumbags all of them, now we can fucking accept a tour to make everything right for everyone?! They just keep selling us out. I truly truly truly hope this dumb fuck gets voted out. 

I mostly came to terms with it last night and Im not against every current sergeant going straight to top pay as most ranks are underpaid.  The money is better off in every MOS bank account over city coffers.  And me and the 1199 other sergeants in my boat dont truly have a right to the top pay being retroactive.  But after having a chance it sleep on it, it seems unfathomable to me that we would accept a contract where sergeants promoted years later will have made so much more money over this time period and it will never be rectified.  How much more money is it in the grand scheme of things to bump us all to top pay as of July 2023?  What does it compare to like a day of money spent on migrants?

No1isbetter wrote:

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Exactly. No one gives a fuck about us, not even our leaders. Were nothing but pawns to them in their game. Theyre financially secured & dont need to rush to get more money while us dopes struggle day in and day out, dont ever let me hear a PO say some stupid shit that theyre happy it stalled or hope it goes another year or two so they can make it, I have no problem cursing people out on this job. Were all a bunch of shmucks in the group chat while the rest of the dept laughs at our misery and continues to root for it. I will get promoted, and I will cross that stage in from of little dick Vinny and I will tell him to go fuck himself after I shake hands with the PC, so I hope hes reading this chat.

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 That's if it's his month to go to the ceremony, otherwise he'll just send the treasurer. 

Top Pay Retro from 2023 > 12hr tours differential

For what its worth, my delegate is swearing up and down that not going to top pay retroactively isnt true.  However, hes not saying its not possible.  He said Vinny didnt specify whether it was happening or not.  LOL so even the delegates dont know

Anybody know when the next mediator meeting is?

GangGreenMets wrote:

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Anybody know when the next mediator meeting is?

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 Yes somebody knows Vinny and we all know how Vinny loves to keep us in the loop

NYM wrote:

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ChuckTaylor wrote:

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For what its worth, my delegate is swearing up and down that not going to top pay retroactively isnt true.  However, hes not saying its not possible.  He said Vinny didnt specify whether it was happening or not.  LOL so even the delegates dont know

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 SBA Meeting:

 

    1.    Changing step 4 of pay scale. Currently as of 2024 115,016 to 12/10/25 119,617. Giving up 5 mins wash up time. Sgts would be above cops at step 4. Everyone would go to top pay. Everyone would get retro-  guys going to top pay would get retro based on the scale they were at. Not a top pay scale. 

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 Yes I know but he maintains that was never said and he doesnt know where it came from.  Maybe he was hitting the canteen when they said it

The SBA has no leverage. They gave away all the leverage in the world the last round of negotiations and now these are consequences as a result.

Put the contract out for a vote to the membership to determine if this contract is also worth accepting 12 hour tours.

I think the financial complications for many have reached a point where the basic salary raises are needed that delaying the contract dispute over 12 hour tours, which appears inevitable, seems like another bad SBA decision.

The whole situation is a mess but if you showed your hand the last contract round, you can't be surprised the city is trying to get everything they can now. The city, it turns out, has Vinny by the balls.

If there are any Sgts willing to make a run for Vinnys seat the time to strike is now. I, and every Sgt I know, will not be voting for anybody associated with this group of do-nothings.

We cant let whats happened here happen again. Unqualified and inept bunch.

Futureauxiliary wrote:

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So whats the SBAs plan now ? Is it to continue to sit and wait ? Smfh

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I guess we will have to wait until the next SBA meeting in April to find out since the board loves to keep its members in the dark.

Remember back in October 2023 and last month when they said do not listen to rumors and only trust information direct from the SBA. It is funny because these morons seem to forget to send updates and then expect us not to fall to rumors or speculation. 

 
Worst and most useless union 

How much does does it cost for a full page story in the NY Post. I'm willing to pay $200 which is probably $100 more than my 4.5 year sgt retro to embarrass the union and city.

-- Edited by DeptIsaJoke on Monday 24th of March 2025 03:23:21 PM

I will be happy to contribute, just have to wait till our next check since I live my life paycheck to paycheck at 97k

Happy national equal payday Vinny!! How about you address the social security offset for tier 3 members instead of this stay 25 years incentive. Dont even have to collect social security and the pension will be reduced by half of what your social security benefit will be. Terrible law that these old geezer Sgts could not give one crap about. The correction officers and sanitation have a bill introduced in the senate to help get rid of it for their members only. From this union not a peep. Why would I care to stay 25 years if the benefit is going to get wiped out by this rule. Voting you out

Tier3scum wrote:

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I know the pba has introduced the same bill the last few years and it dies on the floor each year. I would imagine if it passes for the pba all other unions would get it as well. Theres tier 3 captains now. But I agree, horrendous law where one has nothing to do with the other. But these dinosaurs who stay on wayyy longer than they should including Lynch, let this shit happen. But do nothing about it because it doesnt affect them so why should they care.

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 The ones that went to top pay dont care about the 1,200 and the 1,200 dont are about the dinosaurs, the dinosaurs dont care about either. Whoever eventually runs the show hopefully will try to change this way of thinking amongst the union.

Good luck lol. Cant even leave an iphone charger in a rmp without it being swiped.

No new sergeants this week.

He did.

Signed it, I guess. And either didnt actually read the whole thing or the city did backsies with the 12 hour tour bit.